August 2009 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Mast fitting for whisker pole
by JDavies104＠aol.com 02 Aug '09

02 Aug '09

Does anyone have a part number or size, etc. for the eye strap fitting for the mast end of a whisker pole for an M-17 mast? Thanks, Rick M-17 #633 Lynne L ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=htt… hmpgID=115&bcd=JulystepsfooterNO115)

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Havasu Pocket Cruiser's Poker Run 2010???
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 02 Aug '09

02 Aug '09

Wow, August is already upon us! That's hard to believe but it is. Time to start planning for the 2010 Havasu Pocket Cruiser's Poker Run (if we are gonna do it again). It's up to you guys. This is a friends and family oreinted sailing get together. Pampered winter sailing , if you will. Great for bringing along the "admiral". Sleep in warm hotel beds. No need to cook onboard or deal with anchoring out. Daysailing at it's best. Nothing hard core here. Just a few days of sailboats and friendships. Escape the winter blues! For the last two years we have hosted this trailer sailor event here in Lake Havasu City, AZ during the month of February in order to get folks a winter time sailing "FIX". I think the first year we had something along the likes of 13 boats participate and last year the number shot up to 20. The event is 3 to 4 days long. It usually includes about a 15 mile long(each way) sail down the length of Lake Havasu. Along the way crews participated in a Poker Run style event that prizes were awarded for at the Saturday night group dinner. Last year's sponsors included Small Craft Advisor Magazine, Idasailor, Cruising Supplies.com, and Montgomery Boats. You can check out a photo and video journal of the whole 2009 event at: _http://havasumontgomerys.piczo.com/?g=42325893&cr=1_ (http://havasumontgomerys.piczo.com/?g=42325893&cr=1) So, the question is....Is there interest in doing it again and would you be willing to make the trip to Lake Havasu City, AZ to attend? Please let me know, as if we are going to do it again, the prepwork needs to start pretty soon. I would love to host the event again and grow it even more. I think we can probably get even more sponsor's interested if enough interest is shown. I think that this year we would probably base the entire event out of Lake Havasu City rather then overnighting at Havasu Springs down south on the second night. That way we could work a package deal at one of the hotels on the water to include your room, meals, and maybe even a slip if we used the London Bridge Resort on the Channel under the London Bridge. If you are willing to come, I'm willing to put it together. So...what do you guys say? **************A bad credit score is 600 & below. Checking won't affect your score. See now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=htt… D=62&bcd=JulyBadfooterNO62)

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M15 storm jib for sale
by Doug Kelch 02 Aug '09

02 Aug '09

My old storm jib doesn't go with my new gaff rig so $100 takes it. It was made locally by Potomac sailmakers, 5 oz cloth, flat cut, probably about 60 or 70 % of a working jib. Thanks Doug Kelch M15G #310 " Seas the Day"

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Swollen interior of hull
by Chris Smith 02 Aug '09

02 Aug '09

So I was gearing up for my trip to Superior today and thought I'd give my M15 a good once over. I looked in the bow locker (which I almost never use) and noticed that there was a swollen bit of the hull about 5 inches from the aft edge of the locker. Not only was it a bit wet in the locker, but the swollen bit (about 5 inches across, running laterally) had pushed up what appeared to be a fiberglass patch pretty significantly, cracking it open and exposing what looked to be rusting metal. Upon further inspection, there were some holes at the joint where the aft locker wall meets the hull - no rusty metal there, but it was unclear if they were supposed to be there as they were irregularly shaped.. Seeing as the boat was salvage from the bottom of the ocean in TX, I figure salt water got in there and is slowly destroying whatever in between the layers of fiberglass. I'm going to put off the trip to take the boat out and see if water is actively getting in there and how. My questions are these: 1. Is it rusting metal that I see? 2. What can I do about it? 3. Should there be any openings into that locker? perhaps for water to get out? or to the bilge? I had my brother shine a light up into the keel to see if it was open to that, but didn't see any light. The hull seems sound - I've been sailing it for years with no problem, and have patched anything remotely like a crack from the outside, so it's a bit of a mystery to me how water is getting in there. Thanks for the help/advice! On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:01 PM, bownez(a)juno.com <bownez(a)juno.com> wrote: > Jerry, > > Thank you for the enlightenment. (again). > > Bones > > ____________________________________________________________ > Keep your hair. Click for permanent solution to hair restoration > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTKuxJsol7WCOMM67b0kwEQGJh… > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > -- Chris

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Re: M_Boats: montgomery_boats Digest,
by eisenee＠aol.com 01 Aug '09

01 Aug '09

Sounds like Gary Hyde's home built dighny. Eldor M17 Motu iti **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=htt… =JulystepsfooterNO115)

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Re: M_Boats: MOB plus - lifesling
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 01 Aug '09

01 Aug '09

I believe you would be hard pressed to 'hoist' a MOB into either a M-15 or M-17 with the boom - May be of assistance, and 1/2 way up is better than in the water! Would probably precipitate an even larger emergency in the form of capsize or 'self-induced recovery aided knockdown'- Make sure the gooseneck is secured so as to not slide up in the sail track at the mast when using you boom as a gin pole/crane. My suggestion for LS use is to get person back TO the boat and aid in recovery onto the boat - --My BoomKicker won't support me on the end of my boom! Heck my Boom won't support me if it was tied at the outboard end and the masthead with 3/8" line. Lifesling has more uses than hoisting. NFIW. Wear your lifejacket and go sailing! (PFD) LOL Take Care,Have Fun, Go Sailing. GO In a message dated 7/31/2009 11:06:17 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, wdscobie(a)yahoo.com writes: has anyone rigged a lifesling (LS) on an M15 or M17? to hoist MOB, if my memory serves from the LS my folks had on the choey lee 32', requires hooking to the boom-end. can the M15/17 boom and/or gooseneck take this weight? dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site - http://www.m17-375.webs.com --- On Fri, 7/31/09, GILASAILR(a)aol.com <GILASAILR(a)aol.com> wrote: LifeSling is a good item GO _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=htt… yExcfooterNO62)

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Re: M_Boats: Isle Royale trip slideshow
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 01 Aug '09

01 Aug '09

Thanx much. Looks like a good time. sal In a message dated 7/30/2009 9:45:54 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, gordon(a)financialwriting.net writes: Here are some photos of Bones' and my recent cruise to Isle Royale. A great destination! http://s476.photobucket.com/albums/rr123/theyakker/Isle%20Royale%20Cruise/?a lbumview=slideshow Gordon M-17 "Sapphire" Milwaukee _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! **************Hot Deals at Dell on Popular Laptops perfect for Back to School (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1223105306x1201716871/aol?redir=htt…)

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Re: M_Boats: MOB plus
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 01 Aug '09

01 Aug '09

Chris, This is one of those things you never think about until --- In 1977 my ex and myself were sailing a Coronado 15 on Lake Havasu in February (long before the M-23 guru lived there), we capsized in 25 kts and VERY cold (maybe 55 degree F water - the Colorado River runs about 52-55 degrees year-round) I was barely able to recover myself to the boat and I could not get her in the boat at all so I left her to ---- actually the trapeze diaper hook was getting caught on the transom rubrail - figgered that out and got her into the boat. It was all I could do to move my extremeties when I hit that water - lifejackets were mandatory per the RC and it was colair and water. I have NEVER felt so helpless as at that moment! On any boat that has freeboard of more than ten inches we should probably have a permanent ladder installed on the transom - if the water is cold fold, it 1/2 way down to enable reaching it would be a good idea. My Railmakers C-22 pivoting ladder is securely stored in my garage! I am NOT prepared although if I sail in cold water I trail a warp with knots to assist recovery. (practice what I preach heh?) Strong - non pinching - permanent mount ladders are an important safety feature - no one wants to loose some one due to poor advance planning - A poor fitting folding ladder belongs in only one place - recycling bin -fixed or proper folding STEEL ladder should be a part of safety equipment. PS every single person in my family has come close to drowning while sailing a small boat. My father never sailed an unballasted boat after his episode. Please WEAR life jackets, practice MOB drills and recovery - LifeSling is a good item - do not stow these items below or in lockers - I have taught probably 800 to 1000 people how to sail and this is my #1 concern - It ain't cool to not come back to tell about the sailing adventure you had. My ex-wife almost drowned twice on dinghies - she was tenacious! (TIC) Safety First - remember 'This is an exhibition - NOT a competition - wear your safety equipment' and do NOT stow these items - It ain't cool looking to have a ladder and a lifesling hanging off the stern of your boat - but they sure come in handy - The number one responsibility of the "Skipper/Operator/Owner - the safety of your crew and guests. All are held to this responsibility. Sorry for the rant - must be my "daddy" instincts rearing their head - Check USSailing Instructor info for MOB and I believe the use of Lifesling. Now back to fun stuff. Chris - this is not directed AT you but for all of us (I need to install that ladder don't I !) Take Care,Have Fun, Sail Safely GO end of rant - carry on. In a message dated 7/31/2009 9:54:08 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, chris.r.smith(a)gmail.com writes: A ladder. I had a rough experience a couple weeks ago with just this case. I was the one who had the 'death roll' and all 4 of us went overboard. The first 2 got in fine with the ladder (once I hopped back in and pulled it out of the cabin), but the last person was a little bigger and had a rough time. We ended up anchoring, pulling the rudder and used a combo of the ladder and 2 people pulling. it was difficult but we all made it back to the dock. ...it was a good thing the water was warm! The biggest problem that we ran into was that the ladder was not well fitted to the boat and kept slipping off. That prompted me to start thinking about building a ladder to fit the over the starboard side of the transom (getting up on the side is not doable for most people and would be a pain to try to fit a ladder to). Another boat project! Chris M15 Persephone On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:43 AM, <larrypegg(a)aol.com> wrote: > > I don't have a problem getting to an object but how would you get an adult > on board if they could not help or provide little help? > > > > > > At your service > > Larry Pegg > Pilgrim M-17 #55 > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John and DesAnne Hippe <jdhippe(a)gmail.com> > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 12:42 pm > Subject: M_Boats: MOB > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, > > Tom's sport he has with his kids -- pulling them behind and then doing MOB > drills sounds like a lot of fun and had me thinking about my current MOB > practice. I was taught to fall off on a broad reach, go out for a few boat > lengths (can't remember off hand how far but can visualize it when actually > doing it), jibe and then come back up on a close haul to the individual. > > While this works, it does seem to put a fair amount of distance between > individual in the water an the boat. Since I am essentially single-handing > with two small children I wanted to see if there are faster ways to respond > given the M-15 nimbleness. Yesterday I was practicing in light air with > little sea running. From a close hauled course,I was able to drop an > object > overboard and then do a very quick 360 by tacking through the wind, falling > off, jibing and coming right up on the object. This worked quite well. > Don't know if it would work in higher wind or with more seas running... > > I know brighter minds have looked into this and am wondering what you all > thought? > > Respectfully, > > John > M-15 Jester > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > -- Chris _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=htt… yExcfooterNO62)

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Re: M_Boats: pix
by Larry E Yake 01 Aug '09

01 Aug '09

Wow! I never realize a San Juan CD could get you a free dinner! Glad you're enjoying them. Someday you gotta come join us! > Larry Yake- Thanks very much for the CD's! I've been watching one > every nite, and the neighbor lady is coming over in a few minutes > to watch the last one, bringing BBQ salmon. Life is a bitch! > > jerry

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pix
by jerry 01 Aug '09

01 Aug '09

Larry Yake- Thanks very much for the CD's! I've been watching one every nite, and the neighbor lady is coming over in a few minutes to watch the last one, bringing BBQ salmon. Life is a bitch! jerry

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