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Craigslist listing for M15
by Jason A. Smith 12 May '09

12 May '09

Just passing along the following M-15 listing on craigslist: http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/boa/1162434269.html Maybe someone on this list owns it?

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Re: M_Boats: M17 mainsheet placement and tiller length
by W David Scobie 11 May '09

11 May '09

M17 #375's (april 1983 build) main sheet traveler is in the center of the cockpit. dave scobie M17 #375 - sweet pea (http://www.m17-375.webs.com) M15 #288 - SCRED (for sale, http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-sced --- On Mon, 5/11/09, IdaSailor Marine <sailboats(a)idasailor.com> wrote: Tom, Tony, All apparently there is quite a difference in mainsheet location on the older vs. newer M17 models. We've built dozens without an issue until I saw the messages on this list indicating. Tom, you don't need to saw anything off your tiller, simply give me a call and we'll build a new tiller to your desired length, in order to clear the mainsheet. Just measure from the butt end of the tiller you have on your new rudder to the length you would prefer and we'll send you the size you require. I would encourage owners to contact us with tiller length issues, rather than cutting off a tiller, we can easily build what you need, once we're aware that there is a length problem, give us a chance to make your life easier and exhibit good service to you. Not sure what year Montgomery moved the mainsheet aft, I will be talking with Bob E. sometime this week about a couple rudders for new builds and I'll ask him if he has info about that. Rest assured that we want to provide a drop-in, sail-away assembly and getting the tiller length right is part of that equation. I appreciate the feedback of our customers and info from this group to help us deliver better service to Montgomery owners. Any ideas, conjecture or theories about the mainsheet placement on various model year boats are welcome. Our rudder worksheet <http://www.idasailor.com/worksheets/transom_worksheet.html> asks for tiller length and we generally ask new customers to fill this worksheet out when booking a new order so that we can build the rudder assembly to fit a boat exactly. We'll make sure that we reiterate the tiller length requirement more stridently when booking future M17 Unifoil rudder orders. Thanks for all the help, -Joel Joel Santarone General Manager IdaSailor Marine Inc. www.idasailor.com 866-400-2204 toll free 208-375-2204 shop sailboats(a)idasailor.com

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Re: M_Boats: M17 mainsheet placement and tiller length
by IdaSailor Marine 11 May '09

11 May '09

> Tom, Tony, All, > apparently there is quite a difference in mainsheet location on the > older vs. newer M17 models. > We've built dozens without an issue until I saw the messages on this > list indicating. > Tom, you don't need to saw anything off your tiller, simply give me a > call and we'll build a new tiller to your desired length, in order to > clear the mainsheet. > Just measure from the butt end of the tiller you have on your new > rudder to the length you would prefer and we'll send you the size you > require. > I would encourage owners to contact us with tiller length issues, > rather than cutting off a tiller, we can easily build what you need, > once we're aware that there is a length problem, give us a chance to > make your life easier and exhibit good service to you. > Not sure what year Montgomery moved the mainsheet aft, I will be > talking with Bob E. sometime this week about a couple rudders for new > builds and I'll ask him if he has info about that. > Rest assured that we want to provide a drop-in, sail-away assembly and > getting the tiller length right is part of that equation. I appreciate > the feedback of our customers and info from this group to help us > deliver better service to Montgomery owners. > Any ideas, conjecture or theories about the mainsheet placement on > various model year boats are welcome. > Our rudder worksheet > <http://www.idasailor.com/worksheets/transom_worksheet.html> asks for > tiller length and we generally ask new customers to fill this > worksheet out when booking a new order so that we can build the rudder > assembly to fit a boat exactly. We'll make sure that we reiterate the > tiller length requirement more stridently when booking future M17 > Unifoil rudder orders. > Thanks for all the help, > -Joel > Joel Santarone > General Manager > IdaSailor Marine Inc. > www.idasailor.com > 866-400-2204 toll free > 208-375-2204 shop > sailboats(a)idasailor.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 13:10:13 -0700 > From: "Tom Jenkins" <tjenk(a)gte.net> > To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: M_Boats: tiller length > Message-ID: <EE2B39738F2248068A4EE0DBBC7EFDEB@scss7iw3axjsyt> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I did not try my IdaSailor rudder (2007 vintage) until yesterday, and I too discovered that the 48" tiller reaches 3" past the mainsheet. I have not tried it on the water, but I assume I would have to steer with the tiller raised, and raise it up to the boom for tacking. I can shorten the base about 2" without making a hokey setup, but that is not enough. I would be interested to know why the tiller is so much longer than it is on the stock rudder, and how you folks have solved the problem. I certainly don't want to cut off the nice knob on the fore end. > > Thanks, > Tom Jenkins > 2004 M17 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 20:49:38 GMT > From: "bownez(a)juno.com" <bownez(a)juno.com> > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: tiller length > Message-ID: <20090509.154938.7565.1(a)webmail23.vgs.untd.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Maybe because the main sheet was further forward in the older M17's? > The older ones like my 1976 have the traveler right behind the bridgedeck. > > Bones > > > >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 23:17:50 +0000 >> From: Bob From California <ocean37(a)hotmail.com> >> To: Monty Listserver <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: tiller length >> Message-ID: <BLU112-W22484CCD7390AA176EC0DBAD650(a)phx.gbl> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> We cut off 3 inches on the aft end. Re-drill the 1/4 inch holes. Not a problem. >> >> >> >> Bob >> >> >>> From: tjenk(a)gte.net >>> To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >>> Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 13:10:13 -0700 >>> Subject: M_Boats: tiller length >>> >>> I did not try my IdaSailor rudder (2007 vintage) until yesterday, and I too discovered that the 48" tiller reaches 3" past the mainsheet. I have not tried it on the water, but I assume I would have to steer with the tiller raised, and raise it up to the boom for tacking. I can shorten the base about 2" without making a hokey setup, but that is not enough. I would be interested to know why the tiller is so much longer than it is on the stock rudder, and how you folks have solved the problem. I certainly don't want to cut off the nice knob on the fore end. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Tom Jenkins >>> 2004 M17 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >>> >>> Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! >>> >> >>

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Re: M_Boats: tiller length
by eisenee＠aol.com 11 May '09

11 May '09

Not being a racer one of the first things I did after buying Motu iti was remove the traveler and rig an end boom main sheet to the transom just to have more cockpit room. I have an Ida tiller and never even checked the length, no problem. Eldor M17 Motu iti **************The Average US Credit Score is 692. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222376999x1201454299/aol?redir=htt… ay51009AvgfooterNO62)

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Re: M_Boats: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 75, Issue 25
by Stan Winarski 11 May '09

11 May '09

Joe, A couple of foam spaghetti sticks kids use in pools slid nicely inside my M-15 mast and the wiring has never uttered a sound of protest. Stan. Carol II 1981 M-15 # 177

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Re: M_Boats: M17 mainsheet placement and tiller length
by W David Scobie 11 May '09

11 May '09

M17 #375's (april 1983 build) main sheet traveler is in the center of the cockpit. dave scobie M17 #375 - sweet pea (http://www.m17-375.webs.com) M15 #288 - SCRED (for sale, http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-sced --- On Mon, 5/11/09, IdaSailor Marine <sailboats(a)idasailor.com> wrote: Tom, Tony, All apparently there is quite a difference in mainsheet location on the older vs. newer M17 models. We've built dozens without an issue until I saw the messages on this list indicating. Tom, you don't need to saw anything off your tiller, simply give me a call and we'll build a new tiller to your desired length, in order to clear the mainsheet. Just measure from the butt end of the tiller you have on your new rudder to the length you would prefer and we'll send you the size you require. I would encourage owners to contact us with tiller length issues, rather than cutting off a tiller, we can easily build what you need, once we're aware that there is a length problem, give us a chance to make your life easier and exhibit good service to you. Not sure what year Montgomery moved the mainsheet aft, I will be talking with Bob E. sometime this week about a couple rudders for new builds and I'll ask him if he has info about that. Rest assured that we want to provide a drop-in, sail-away assembly and getting the tiller length right is part of that equation. I appreciate the feedback of our customers and info from this group to help us deliver better service to Montgomery owners. Any ideas, conjecture or theories about the mainsheet placement on various model year boats are welcome. Our rudder worksheet <http://www.idasailor.com/worksheets/transom_worksheet.html> asks for tiller length and we generally ask new customers to fill this worksheet out when booking a new order so that we can build the rudder assembly to fit a boat exactly. We'll make sure that we reiterate the tiller length requirement more stridently when booking future M17 Unifoil rudder orders. Thanks for all the help, -Joel Joel Santarone General Manager IdaSailor Marine Inc. www.idasailor.com 866-400-2204 toll free 208-375-2204 shop sailboats(a)idasailor.com

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Re: M_Boats: M17 mainsheet placement and tiller length
by W David Scobie 11 May '09

11 May '09

M17 #375's (april 1983 build) main sheet traveler is in the center of the cockpit. dave scobie M17 #375 - sweet pea (http://www.m17-375.webs.com) M15 #288 - SCRED (for sale, http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-sced --- On Mon, 5/11/09, IdaSailor Marine <sailboats(a)idasailor.com> wrote: Tom, Tony, All apparently there is quite a difference in mainsheet location on the older vs. newer M17 models. We've built dozens without an issue until I saw the messages on this list indicating. Tom, you don't need to saw anything off your tiller, simply give me a call and we'll build a new tiller to your desired length, in order to clear the mainsheet. Just measure from the butt end of the tiller you have on your new rudder to the length you would prefer and we'll send you the size you require. I would encourage owners to contact us with tiller length issues, rather than cutting off a tiller, we can easily build what you need, once we're aware that there is a length problem, give us a chance to make your life easier and exhibit good service to you. Not sure what year Montgomery moved the mainsheet aft, I will be talking with Bob E. sometime this week about a couple rudders for new builds and I'll ask him if he has info about that. Rest assured that we want to provide a drop-in, sail-away assembly and getting the tiller length right is part of that equation. I appreciate the feedback of our customers and info from this group to help us deliver better service to Montgomery owners. Any ideas, conjecture or theories about the mainsheet placement on various model year boats are welcome. Our rudder worksheet <http://www.idasailor.com/worksheets/transom_worksheet.html> asks for tiller length and we generally ask new customers to fill this worksheet out when booking a new order so that we can build the rudder assembly to fit a boat exactly. We'll make sure that we reiterate the tiller length requirement more stridently when booking future M17 Unifoil rudder orders. Thanks for all the help, -Joel Joel Santarone General Manager IdaSailor Marine Inc. www.idasailor.com 866-400-2204 toll free 208-375-2204 shop sailboats(a)idasailor.com

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Easy Rider trailer question
by flickasf＠aol.com 11 May '09

11 May '09

I have a M 15 on an Easy Rider trailer. ?Those of you who have the same, have you had any trouble with the boat because of point loading on the trailer since the the keel doesn't rest on anything? Thank you in advance, Bert Felton Zephyr, M 15, #365

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Re: M_Boats: CDI FF2 for sale
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 11 May '09

11 May '09

Doug, A number of us are traveling up to Anacortes, Wa next month from the Soouthern, CA/AZ area. If you and Matt work something out I'm sure we could find a way to get it up to ya. Sean M23 "Dauntless" Lake Havasu, AZ _www.havasumontgomerys.piczo.com_ (http://www.havasumontgomerys.piczo.com) **************Big savings on Dell’s most popular laptops. Now starting at $449! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221827510x1201399090/aol?redir=htt…)

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Re: M_Boats: Another line issue
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 11 May '09

11 May '09

Mike, That would be - 1) improperly stored - as in 'spooled' line. 2) improperly used - as in a twisted manner. 3) damaged cordage - core pulled from cover. 4) inferior quality control. cheap stuff. I think there may be a couple of other reasons - but check with the supplier for a full explanation. GO In a message dated 5/10/2009 6:02:26 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, carterconsultants(a)comcast.net writes: All, I'd like to take advantage of this discussion of halyards and sheets to pose a related question: last week I got my 15 into the water for the first time and, over the course of two days, sustained two ruptures of my mainsheet. I thought I might be able to whip one back into submission, but the larger of the two completely blew out the outer braid to form what now looks like a big, ugly knot. The sheet is original equipment and had never been stressed until last week. What do you think? Was it operator error, some bad braid, or ?? BTW, I am in love with this boat. She was stable, nimble and just plain good fun in light to moderate winds. Thanks to all for the lively and informative discussions. I don't post much (or haven't until now), but the collective wisdom of the group has been invaluable to me. Mike La Pequenita, #654 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! **************The Average US Credit Score is 692. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222376999x1201454299/aol?redir=htt… ay51009AvgfooterNO62)

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