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Re: M_Boats: Outboard question
by JDavies104＠aol.com 08 May '09

08 May '09

Andrei, Unless you're going to be fighting big winds, I'd recommend the Honda 2hp long-shaft four-stroke. Mind has worked without a hiccup (except when I left the gas cap off in a rainstorm). That involved a trip to the service dept. Rick M-17 #633 Lynne L ************** Remember Mom this Mother's Day! Find a florist near you now. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist& ncid=emlcntusyelp00000006)

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Re: M_Boats: CDI FF2 delivery and MSOG san juan/gulf islands cruise
by W David Scobie 08 May '09

08 May '09

doug: opening weekend' of the MSOG june cruise are june 13-14 at cap sante marina. night two (6/14): Blakely Island Marina. 6/15: West Sound. and/or Blind Bay on Shaw Island 6/16: Friday Harbor. June 17th. Layover day at Friday Harbor or to Garrison Bay. June 18th. Regroup at Stuart Island, Prevost Harbor Fri. June 19th. One-week cruisers start back toward Anacortes. Those continuing on cross into Canada. Bedwell Harbor, larry yake (M17 - corn dog), is trip coordinator - leyake {at} juno.com. contact larry is you would like to receive trip details and join the group during any part/section of the trip. dave scobie M17 #375 - sweet pea (http://www.m17-375.webs.com) M15 #288 - SCRED (for sale, http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred) --- On Thu, 5/7/09, doug henning <doughenning1(a)gmail.com> wrote: What are the exact dates of the outing, and are any of your ports of call in the San Juans? My sailing partner and I plan to be in the San Juans between June 15 and 19. I could perhaps tweek our dates a bit if we can figure out a time/place to connect.

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Re: M_Boats: Rigging questions
by RKGraves 07 May '09

07 May '09

Hi David, The factory 110 working jib on our 1988 M17 is also 16" shy of the masthead when fully raised. I did some experimenting with this, raising it off the deck a little, then a lot. In the end I went back to attaching the jib directly to the deck. The reason being when I looked at the M17 with both sails raised, I could see having the jib attached at the deck gave the best airflow from jib to main; the geometry of the sails looked corrected and well matched. Randy Graves M17 #410 ________________________________________ From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of David C. Patterson [davidcpatterson(a)msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 10:02 AM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Rigging questions Dan, regarding your rigging question: "2. My 100% jib is at least 16" shy of the masthead when fully raised. I think my 150% may also fall short. I thought maybe this was because the mast was raked back too far--could that be? Did it shrink over the years? (It's old.) Is it the wrong size (though it appears to have been made especially for the boat)?" There are people on the list far more knowledgeable than I, but perhaps you have the "tall rig" on your early M17 Orli. The mast was taller by nearly two feet for that original rig, I think. Some on the list have deliberately converted to the tall rig for more sail area. Your sails could be raised higher by using a strop at the stem fitting, and you would even be able to see under them better as a result. Again, others have much better information than I do.Jerry, Bob, GO are possibilities. Even if you don't, you can try the strop (there is an exact nautical term for it, of course). David M17 #393 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: CDI FF2 for sale
by Bruce Ward 07 May '09

07 May '09

Hi Doug, Bruce here- Our 1974 sv cerulea M17 #32 also sails out of British Columbia as does Tim's Puff. We are located out of Houston. Be nice to hear about where you are and exchange northern M17 experiences.

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Re: M_Boats: Bottom Paint
by treed＠communitycareinc.com 07 May '09

07 May '09

Joe...thank you very much. Regards Tony E. Tony Reed -----Original Message----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray(a)embarqmail.com> Subj: Re: M_Boats: Bottom Paint Date: Tue May 5, 2009 7:51 am Size: 3K To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats"<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Hi Tony, Here are the measurements for my sail cover: Length: 9' Height at mast: 35" The following are measurements in circumferences: At the top of the sailcover around the mast: 12" At the aft end: 18" >From the aft end moving 66" forward the cut increases to 26" This last measurement is hard to describe but it is from the lowest point of the cover at the mast (bottom of the zipper) and back around the largest part of the cover. This is 58" (Imagine if you raise your hand to take an oath forming a 90 degree angle at the elbow. Now measure from the tip of your elbow around the inside of your arm/forearm.) I hope I've covered the critical measurements. If not let me know. I have the cover right here in the house so it would be very easy to get another measurement for you. Good luck. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "E. Tony Reed" <treed(a)communitycareinc.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 7:26 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Bottom Paint > Thanks Joe...I tried an Ebay company and they didn't have any in stock. I > was trying to measure and order from Sailor's Tailor who makes the boat > cover. Thanks, Tony > > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Joe > Murphy > Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 7:26 PM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Bottom Paint > > Hi Tony, > Yes I did get a sail cover and it fits perfectly. It came with a tiller > cover as well. I've just spent the last hour going through old emails and > digging around for the paper work. It must be on the boat. I'll check > tomorrow and get back to you. I think it was either Lee Sails or an Ebay > company named comboat. I'm drawing a blank. > Joe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <treed(a)communitycareinc.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:26 PM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Bottom Paint > > >> Joe....Have you had a sail cover made for Seafrog yet? If you have >> one I was wondering what measurements you used to have it made. I >> just wanted to make sure I am getting the right measurements for a >> good fit...T >> >> E. Tony Reed >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray(a)embarqmail.com> >> Subj: Re: M_Boats: Bottom Paint >> Date: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:30 pm >> Size: 1K >> To: "For and about Montgomery >> Sailboats"<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> >> I used Micron Extra. I keep Seafrog in saltwater 10 months straight >> per year. I pull her out after 5 months. Looked great. I agree with > Bones. >> You can recoat with the same bottom paint as long as it is the same >> product. >> I like the ablative paint which flakes off during the time the boat is >> in the water thus shedding the nasties. I don't know if you use >> ablative paints in fresh water. But there are a gazillion sites out >> there with great advice. >> Joe >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <bownez(a)juno.com> >> To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> --- message truncated ---

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Re: M_Boats: preventing the slugs from falling out of the slot when you drop the main
by W David Scobie 06 May '09

06 May '09

ALWAYS buy two. if you have one you WILL drop it overboard. if you have two Neptune will likely never ask for a donation ;-) dave scobie M17 #375 - sweet pea (http://www.m17-375.webs.com) M15 #288 - SCRED (for sale, http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred) --- On Tue, 5/5/09, flickasf(a)aol.com <flickasf(a)aol.com> wrote: I have slugs on the main and use a sail track stop. ?One manufacturer is Davis. ?Buy one with the flat side. ?Actually, buy two in the event that one falls over board. Bert Zephyr, M 15, 365

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Re: M_Boats: Rigging questions
by David C. Patterson 05 May '09

05 May '09

Dan, regarding your rigging question: "2. My 100% jib is at least 16" shy of the masthead when fully raised. I think my 150% may also fall short. I thought maybe this was because the mast was raked back too far--could that be? Did it shrink over the years? (It's old.) Is it the wrong size (though it appears to have been made especially for the boat)?" There are people on the list far more knowledgeable than I, but perhaps you have the "tall rig" on your early M17 Orli. The mast was taller by nearly two feet for that original rig, I think. Some on the list have deliberately converted to the tall rig for more sail area. Your sails could be raised higher by using a strop at the stem fitting, and you would even be able to see under them better as a result. Again, others have much better information than I do.Jerry, Bob, GO are possibilities. Even if you don't, you can try the strop (there is an exact nautical term for it, of course). David M17 #393

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preventing the slugs from falling out of the slot when you drop the main
by flickasf＠aol.com 05 May '09

05 May '09

I have slugs on the main and use a sail track stop. ?One manufacturer is Davis. ?Buy one with the flat side. ?Actually, buy two in the event that one falls over board. Bert Zephyr, M 15, 365

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Re: M_Boats: Tiller Handle Measurements
by treed＠communitycareinc.com 05 May '09

05 May '09

Joe...thanks. This help a lot. I am ordering the IdaSailor as well. Regards Tony E. Tony Reed -----Original Message----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray(a)embarqmail.com> Subj: M_Boats: Tiller Handle Measurements Date: Tue May 5, 2009 9:50 am Size: 1017 bytes To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats"<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Hi Tony, I have an IdaSailor Tiller/Rudder. When I got it I had to shorten the tiller to clear main sheet. So now it is 45" long. I mounted a TillerTrimmer 15" from aft end. This makes the circumference 11" at that point so that the cover clears it without having to take it off. Hope this helps. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: <treed(a)communitycareinc.com> To: <danielarichman(a)gmail.com>; "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com>; <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 10:05 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Rigging Questions > Anybody out there know the length of a M17 tiller handle...I am in AZ this > week and my boat is in TN so I can't measure it myself...trying to order a > cover this week. > Thanks > M17 Blubird > E. Tony Reed > > _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! --- message truncated ---

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Re: M_Boats: Rigging Questions
by treed＠communitycareinc.com 05 May '09

05 May '09

Anybody out there know the length of a M17 tiller handle...I am in AZ this week and my boat is in TN so I can't measure it myself...trying to order a cover this week. Thanks M17 Blubird E. Tony Reed -----Original Message----- From: Dan Richman <danielarichman(a)gmail.com> Subj: M_Boats: Rigging Questions Date: Mon May 4, 2009 8:12 pm Size: 1K To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com I'm the proud new owner of a 1979 M17, "Orli," with a couple of rigging questions I hope the group can help me resolve. 1. Prior to raising the mainsail, how do I properly adjust the boom so that the mainsail slugs remain in the mast's slot? If the forward end of the boom is raised above the widened portion of the slot where it and the sail slugs are inserted, there's nothing to keep it up there--and the sail probably couldn't be raised all the way up. But if the forward end of the boom is allowed to drop down from the widened portion of the slot to the point where it stops on its own, most or all of the slugs fall out of that wide portion. Yet it appears that fully-down position is where the boom is intended to join the mast, to judge by the position of the two eyes and two jam cleats that make up the cunningham, such as it is. (And by the way--why are there two of each, rather than just one? I think I'm not understanding something.) 2. My 100% jib is at least 16" shy of the masthead when fully raised. I think my 150% may also fall short. I thought maybe this was because the mast was raked back too far--could that be? Did it shrink over the years? (It's old.) Is it the wrong size (though it appears to have been made especially for the boat)? Any thoughts much appreciated! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! --- message truncated ---

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