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by kdocter＠bellsouth.net 03 Mar '09

03 Mar '09

Someone mentioned a M-17 for sale in Louisiana. I don't have the address or number. Can someone send it to me? I would like to upgrade to a 17 if possible. kdocter(a)bellsouth.net 318-752-0042

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M-17 for sale in New Bern, North Carolina
by kdocter＠bellsouth.net 03 Mar '09

03 Mar '09

Contact Leif at hsgleif(a)aol.com

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one more video - Wye River late September
by Doug Kelch 03 Mar '09

03 Mar '09

This is a three day cruise as well. The first day was just two boats but the winds were 18 kts gusting to 25 the first day so ... no video - too much fun. The last day was no wind but I thought you would like seeing Dovekie out cruising. The Dovekie skipper is holding up a handful of wild turkey feathers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq4spQ7zM0w Thanks Doug Kelch M15 #310 "Seas the Day"

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Re: M_Boats: attaching new boom hardware Redux
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 02 Mar '09

02 Mar '09

If you use the lanocote in a threaded piece -such as the boom, the proper installation would be to use a lock washer under the head of the screw on top of the fitting or a lock washer/lock nut on the other side of the screw (inside the boom - this is actually the real reason my boom is 'ventilated' with "lightening holes" they are there to access bolts/nuts.) Thru bolting is a good solution depending on the load at the fitting, just make sure you don't crush the tube - a compression tube will help or nylock nut stopped before crushing the tube. I use nylon insert lock nuts or lock washers on all fasteners - if you are unable to use these try drilling and pinning the fastener. Many applications, many solutions. Rivets should have backing washers if they are loaded in any direction other than shear. Rivets (SS and Monel) are usually stronger than the aluminum extrusion. Jerry would have better info on this, but I think he is busy. GO. LB/GF! M-17 # 316a 'that ain't bad gelcoat -it's "patina"! Team Geezer Racing.....Old and in the Way In a message dated 3/1/2009 1:39:38 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, seagray(a)embarqmail.com writes: When using the Lanocote, do you have to worry about nuts/bolts working loose? Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: <GILASAILR(a)aol.com> To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 1:32 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: attaching new boom hardware > Try Lanocote - recc. by the man that built my mast Buzz Ballenger. > > GO > > > **************You're invited to Hollywood's biggest party: Get Oscars updates, red carpet pics and more at Moviefone. (http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards?ncid=emlcntusmovi00000001)

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M17 in Chattanooga... but NOT for sale!
by Brian Gilbert 02 Mar '09

02 Mar '09

Hi John and Joy... You're welcome to have a look at my '79 M17, but she's looking a little shabby right now... on the trailer in the driveway, awaiting decent boat work weather. I need to do some new cushions, some rigging work, new cockpit drain, as well as scraping and varnishing. I lived in Charleston for 5 years as well, I love it there... though it's gotten pretty pricey. Now is a good time to buy, real estate has taken a dive there. Still, marinas are in very short supply An M17 would be a good solution. Best BG Brian Gilbert Location Audio for Video and Film On Mar 1, 2009, at 10:17 PM, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: >>>> Greetings, >>>> We joined this listing thinking we might locate an M17 owner in >>>> the southeastern section of the states that might allow us to view >>>> their boat. We have not seen an M17. We are also hoping to >>>> locate a clean used M17 for sale. We realize living here in >>>> northeastern Alabama isn't the best place to shop for a sailboat, >>>> especially a west coast build boat like the M17. But you never >>>> know till you make an effort. >>>> I have approximately 5 years sailing experience, primarily on >>>> larger sailboats. However, we are retiring this year at 62 and >>>> hope to relocate to the Charleston SC area. And of course, we >>>> want to do some serious sailing while we can. >>>> Any information will be appreciated. I will be heading to the >>>> Tampa Florida area next friday to view a Precision 18. If there >>>> are any M17 owners' nearby or on the northwest Gulf coast, I'd >>>> love to see your boat! >>>> >>>> Sincerely, John and Joy

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Montgomery 17
by John Merrell 02 Mar '09

02 Mar '09

Greetings, We joined this listing thinking we might locate an M17 owner in the southeastern section of the states that might allow us to view their boat. We have not seen an M17. We are also hoping to locate a clean used M17 for sale. We realize living here in northeastern Alabama isn't the best place to shop for a sailboat, especially a west coast build boat like the M17. But you never know till you make an effort. I have approximately 5 years sailing experience, primarily on larger sailboats. However, we are retiring this year at 62 and hope to relocate to the Charleston SC area. And of course, we want to do some serious sailing while we can. Any information will be appreciated. I will be heading to the Tampa Florida area next friday to view a Precision 18. If there are any M17 owners' nearby or on the northwest Gulf coast, I'd love to see your boat! Sincerely, John and Joy

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Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 17
by Eeeisen＠aol.com 02 Mar '09

02 Mar '09

Please share your upgrades with everyone. We're always interested in things that can make things more comfortable. Eldor and Dorothy Eisen M -17 Motu iti fixed keel In a message dated 3/1/2009 6:42:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, mcjorge(a)bellsouth.net writes: Hi John: The short answer is yes, you'll be fine for 2-3 nights. I've done lots of upgrades on my boat and can fill you in on what I did to make life aboard more comfortable. Perhaps if you want to call me I can give you more details. My cell is 30 5775 8045. I am up late, call anytime. Regards, Maria On Mar 1, 2009, at 8:52 AM, John Merrell wrote: > Morning Maria, > The P18 reportedly is a good sailer, well built and affordable. I'm > afraid it just doesn't have the storage capacity necessary for any > cruising beyond an occassional overnighter. I still want to see it > for myself. And I agree, it's obvious the M17 is a better boat. > I sincerely appreciate your offer to view your M17. Unfortunately I > won't have time to drive down to Miami on this trip to Florida. > Perhaps we can coordinate a viewing at a future date. > I would like to ask your opinion. Does the M17 have enough storage > and room for two adults to spend up to three nights on the hook in > reasonable comfort? I'm 6'1" @ 225 and my wife is 5'4" @ 135, we're > both soon to be 62 but in good physical condition, and very young at > heart. Our desire is to be able to explore the ICW and occasionally > sail outside on longer legs(weather pending). Our idea is to spend > up to three nights on the hook, then seek a marina/motel to freshen > up, and sail on. We don't intend to move aboard, but taking off for > several weeks seems to be a reasonable expectation, and should be > most rewarding. > Comments, suggestions always welcome...we aren't thin skinned.... > Regards, John and Joy > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maria Jorge" <mcjorge(a)bellsouth.net > > > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 6:16 AM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 17 > > >> John: >> I am in Miami and would be happy to show you my M17. By the way, I >> also had a Precision 18; nice boat but no comparison. >> Maria Jorge >> >> On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:34 PM, John Merrell wrote: >> >>> Greetings, >>> We joined this listing thinking we might locate an M17 owner in >>> the southeastern section of the states that might allow us to view >>> their boat. We have not seen an M17. We are also hoping to >>> locate a clean used M17 for sale. We realize living here in >>> northeastern Alabama isn't the best place to shop for a sailboat, >>> especially a west coast build boat like the M17. But you never >>> know till you make an effort. >>> I have approximately 5 years sailing experience, primarily on >>> larger sailboats. However, we are retiring this year at 62 and >>> hope to relocate to the Charleston SC area. And of course, we >>> want to do some serious sailing while we can. >>> Any information will be appreciated. I will be heading to the >>> Tampa Florida area next friday to view a Precision 18. If there >>> are any M17 owners' nearby or on the northwest Gulf coast, I'd >>> love to see your boat! >>> >>> Sincerely, John and Joy >>> _______________________________________________ >>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ >>> montgomery_boats >>> >>> Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> >> Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! **************Get a jump start on your taxes. Find a tax professional in your neighborhood today. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=Tax+Return+Preparation+%26+Filing&n…)

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sails
by Tom Jenkins 01 Mar '09

01 Mar '09

Hello out there, I could use some advice on sails. An interesting jib came with my 2004 M17; it measures some 60 square feet with a very high clew and a set of reef points that knock off another 5 square feet. Elliott/Pattison (that made the sail) apparently considers this its utility heavy weather sail, but I have found a real storm jib quite useful on other boats, and I am considering their 23 square foot "model". Have any of you needed such a small jib for snarling lake winds, perhaps in conjunction with a double-reefed main? (Speaking of mains, I have only one reef point; should I consider a second or even a third?) Any comments (besides "what an idiot") will be greatly appreciated. Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla

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Re: M_Boats: attaching new boom hardware
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 01 Mar '09

01 Mar '09

Try Lanocote - recc. by the man that built my mast Buzz Ballenger. GO In a message dated 3/1/2009 10:27:00 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, seagray(a)embarqmail.com writes: I live in on coast in NC. Pretty harsh salt environment. When I put on the hardware for reefing I too labored over what was the best solution. We all know aluminum and stainless steel (ss) plus salt water make great 8th grade science projects and I didn't want Seafrog to be one. I tried to find monel pop rivets. And if I do, that will be my first choice. But in the meantime I used SS screws. I can't remember off hand the exact size, but appear to be about 1/4". I was told by a boat yardee to use locktite on the threads. He said that it would help to keep it obviously from coming loose but it also served as a barrier between the aluminum and SS. I've heard of a product from the UK that you can put on screw threads that make a better barriier. Ducolac or Duraloc or something like that. Maybe someone on this board may know the name. On the cheek blocks I made some insulating shields made from milk bottle plastic . Instead of cam cleats I use regular cleats. I had cam cleats on my previous boat and it never failed that everytime I raised the main one of the reefing lines would get jammed accidently. I would make a mental note to make sure all the reefing lines were slack before I raised the main but.... So I decided to use regular cleats. I use the merlin black ones. I run the reefing line through the hole in the base of the cleat with a stopper knot. It makes things pretty simple, uncluttered and doesn't jam. But the important thing is that you are getting in that extra reefing point. Have fun and any solution that gets your sail up and down and is intuitive to you is a great solution. Fair winds (not these %^$#$ March winds!) Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "W David Scobie" <wdscobie(a)yahoo.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 10:57 PM Subject: M_Boats: attaching new boom hardware > Mboaters: > > > I've purchased a new main for SCRED, my M15. This sail has two reef points > so I'm in the process of setting up the boom to for the necessary second > line. > > > For attaching the second eye strap, bullet block and clamcleat I'm looking > for opinions - > > > aluminum rivet the items in place (as done with the other hardware); or, > stainless steel screw the items in place? > > > > > If riveting in place, what 'grip length' for the rivet? > > > If screwing in place, what length of screw? > > > I've seen in other's posts to use 'never-seize' to avoid problems between > stainless fittings and the aluminum. In the local hardware store i've > found 'anti-seize' by PERMATEX. Are these the same products? > > > > > Dave Scobie > M15 #288 – SCRED > visit Scred's www-site: http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! **************You're invited to Hollywood's biggest party: Get Oscars updates, red carpet pics and more at Moviefone. (http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards?ncid=emlcntusmovi00000001)

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Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 17
by eisenee＠aol.com 01 Mar '09

01 Mar '09

John and Joy WE have a 92 M17, Motu iti and in 2007 we spent 6 nights aboard in the San Juan Islands and plan to go back and do 2 weeks this trip. I am 5'10" 200lbs and Dorothy is 5'2" and pleasingly plump and it was very cosy but we were still speaking at the end of the cruise. Almost forgot ,I am 70 and Dorothy is 67. We got the Sardine award . Eldor M17 Motu iti In a message dated 3/1/2009 7:53:13 A.M. Central Standard Time, mayrel(a)hughes.net writes: wife is 5'4" @ 135, we're both soon to be 62 but in good physical condition, and very young at heart. Our desire is to be able to explore the ICW and occasionally **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=htt… %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62)

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