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Monty Owner's Registry - Keep it up!!
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 09 Jun '08

09 Jun '08

hmmmmm.....what's the problem with the Yahoo sign up??? I wasn't aware of any. That's not good if it's keeping you guys from accessing the list. Does it not work?, cumbersome, confusing???? Sean **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

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Re: M_Boats: Monty Owner's Registry - Keep it up!!
by JDavies104＠aol.com 09 Jun '08

09 Jun '08

Cancel my complaint - just old age. Lynne L has now joined the list! Rick M-17 Lynne L ************** Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

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Re: M_Boats: Monty Owner's Registry - Keep it up!!
by JDavies104＠aol.com 09 Jun '08

09 Jun '08

Second your opinion of Yahoo - I'm still not signed up. Rick M-17 Lynne L ************** Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

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Re: M_Boats: M-17 rudder depth
by JDavies104＠aol.com 09 Jun '08

09 Jun '08

My boat came with both the original fixed and Idasailor kickup rudders, and I have never used the fixed rudder. The kickup stays on the boat all the time, not having to be removed for launching and retrieving. Rick M-17 Lynne L ************** Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

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Monty Owner's Registry - Keep it up!!
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 09 Jun '08

09 Jun '08

Great job guys/gals!!! Almost 60 boats registered in the new owner's registry! The registry can be searched and organized by size, location, name, owner, hull #, etc. If your boat's not entered yet go to _http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Montyowners/_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Montyowners/) and get'er done!!! :-) Sean **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

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Fwd: Re: Perhaps the M-17 is not for me... M-15?
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 09 Jun '08

09 Jun '08

I'll throw in a second for Gary O's trailering rant...um...I mean advice! :-) hahaha For me...when it comes to towing SIZE matters. And by that I mean the size of the trailer vs the size of the tow vehicle. I have probably gone to overkill, however, I can't even describe to you how much more relaxed towing is with a vehicle that is able to dominate the trailer, instead of the other way around. I towed our boat all the way home from Florida (to Arizona) with our Tahoe. It towed OK but demanded what I would describe as "constant driving" and the need to continually work at creating a buffer space ahead in case of a rap id stop scenario. Even though the trailer is equipped with disc brakes which work well it was not a very comfortable drive. On the flip side, last year we towed her all the way to Larry's San Juan trip, a distance of 1500 miles each way with some pretty serious grades both up and down. This time we towed with a 1 ton dually. The difference was night and day (so was the fuel bill! hahaha). My point not being that you should go out and buy a fuel guzzling aircraft carrier like dually pickup, but just that the handling characteristics and stopping ability while towing is greatly affected by the tow vehicles capabilities. Many light weight economical vehicles are more than capable of towing an 17 or 15 foot Monty with respect to power. Just be careful if you are getting close to the "tail wagging the dog scenario". I've had the tail start "wagging" before and it's a little scary!!!! And....Trailer brakes, although not standard equip on small trailers, are a GREAT thing and used correctly can make all the difference in the world. Just make sure you maintain them. They will save your life. End of rant...........GO SAIL!!!!! GO SAIL!!! GO SAIL...... Heading to Catalina Island in 7 days!!! Pictures and video to follow. Sounds like at least three Monty's making the trip! Sean and Jo M23 Dauntless _www.havasumontgomerys.piczo.com_ (http://www.havasumontgomerys.piczo.com) **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

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Fwd: Re: Perhaps the M-17 is not for me... M-15?
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 09 Jun '08

09 Jun '08

Oddly enough, yes I do (have the aircraft carrier for sale), but the reasoning may be flawed! We have it for sale because we made an offer on a 4wd E350 dually diesel mini motor home......when it comes to fuel mileage it seems we are working on going backwards! Oh well, the offer was a "low ball" and probably won't amount anything. Fuel? Well, it is what it is. The "nimitz" sits in the garage except about once every week and half or so when I drive it a bit to keep things working. She's the tugboat and that's it. For the amount of fuel I put through her only using her on road trips with the boat, I'll probably hang on to her. She tows like nothing I've ever had before and she's getting close to being paid off. Usually, when I get a vehicle paid off it's worn out! $5 plus/gallon is getting a bit hard to take, though...... gulp. Sean _www.havasumontgomerys.piczo.com_ (http://www.havasumontgomerys.piczo.com) **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

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Re: M_Boats: Fwd: Re: Perhaps the M-17 is not for me... M-15?
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 09 Jun '08

09 Jun '08

Sean, You got an 'aircraft carrier dually' for sale yet? GO **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

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Re: M_Boats: M-17 rudder depth
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 09 Jun '08

09 Jun '08

The M-17 rudder may be used in the retracted position (original model with vertically retracting rudder) I think someone once measured it in the "up" position and it was approx. 2-3" deeper than the keel with the board up. Look up rudder depth in the archives. GO. LB/GF! M-17 # 316a 'that ain't bad gelcoat -it's "patina"! Team Geezer Racing.....Old and in the Way Arizona Sailing Squadron **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?&NCID=aolfod00030000000002)

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Things to look for in a used M-17
by Andrei Caldararu 09 Jun '08

09 Jun '08

Dear all, I am new to this list, but I am thinking of buying a 1975 M-17, hull #55. Unfortunately this boat is too far for me to inspect personally, so all I can do is rely on the seller's description and photos. According to them, the boat was extremely well mainained, and from the first few photos I saw this seems to be the case. If anything, what are the things to look at, and/or to request pictures of? What are the common problem areas of the boat? Another rather important question is the following: I currently have a Compac 16, which I can rig myself without any help in 20-30 minutes (I keep it on the trailer, and this is the time I need from arriving at the dock with the boat on the trailer, until I am sailing). Is the same possible with the M-17? Namely, can an average guy (age 36) rig all by himself, and how long would this take? Thanks a lot, Andrei.

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