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Re: M_Boats: Teak finishes
by Nick Cherau 24 Dec '08

24 Dec '08

Bones, In your trials of various oil finishes, did you try any of the Flood products like Marine Penetrol. If so, what did you think of it? Back in the early 90's I used Deks Olje #1 and #2 and liked it but I see it's been discontinued. More's the pity. _________________________________________________________________________________________________ Fair tide and a steady breeze, Nick

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Re: M_Boats: Teak
by JDavies104＠aol.com 24 Dec '08

24 Dec '08

Bones, Thanks for the detailed input and suggestions. I hadn't really thought much about oil vs varnish, but my varnish is now over two years old, and looks it. Since I keep the boat on a trailer, my plan is to refinish and then get a full cover for semi-permanent protection. Whichever finish I use, I'd rather not have to redo it once or twice a year, which seems unavoidable for finishes exposed to the sun if you want them to look good. By the way, where can I find the material from Don Casey? Also by the way, has anyone bought an M-17 cover from Bob Rowland at Sailor's Tailor? He did a design last year from measurements I gave him, but I didn't follow through yet and buy one. Thanks, Rick M-17 Lynne L ************** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp& icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025)

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Re: M_Boats: Doug Kelch lusting after older gaff rigs
by John R. Butler 24 Dec '08

24 Dec '08

If my health weren't failing so speedily and severely as I am about to ground on the 80's sand bar, I'd still be sailing my old Sweetheart, "The Old Cat," an 1850s fishing boat design, still very popular. Check her out on the site in my signature, below. A couple years ago she outran and outpointed a Vega 27, a very sweet sloop. I was aboard T.O.C. today, doing a small maintenance job for the new owner, because I still love her and care for her. And shed a tear for her. A Blessed Christmas and a much better New Year for us all! John R. Butler theoldcat(a)cox.net My e-mail address just refers to my last sailboat, "The Old Cat." Check her out at: <http://www.unicorn-systems.com/theoldcat.htm>

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Teak
by bownez＠juno.com 24 Dec '08

24 Dec '08

Hi Rick, Refinishing the exterior teak on my M23 is a job that awaits me this spring. Over the years, I have tried various methods, and I have finally found a product I like and will be sticking with for the brightwork. Firstly, I am NOT a varnish person. I have tries Epifines and Cetol. The Epifines product looks fabulous, Cetol to me looks muddy, but lasts longer in the elements. All varnishes have a lifespan out there in the real world of sunlight, and if you go that direction, you are locking yourself into a stripping and recoating operation to maintain the look and protection. I am an oiler. After trying at least 6 different products I have discovered "Penofin" oil and have tested it this last season. You apply to bare, cleaned, lightly sanded teak. It does not seem to carbonize and turn black after a few months like other oils. It brings out the teak's beauty and has a soft, warm finish. The UV protection is very high. I used the solid teak rails on my companionway cover as the test area. I did two applications all summer and it looks great. If you can remove the teak trim from the boat and work on it, that's the way to go. I have tried both senario's. The teak bleaching/burning products are a bit nasty and can stain the gel-coat. The advantage to that method is that you will not need to sand as much teak, (removing precious material) in order to get it clean. Use LOTS of blue tape to mask off areas that will be seeing splashing and run off. Now there are sailors that prefer that wonderful shining ultra gloss look. I am not one. If that is your desire, the Epifines product is one of the best varnishes available. The end result will put a huge smile on your face, and make you an even prouder Monty owner. Don Casey has some wonderful reading on refinishing. Penofin has a nice website. http://www.penofin.com/ Good luck. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Write, shoot, direct, edit your own movies. Click here to request information. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1TziezK4bfMKMWZweUASYZjCD…

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Re: M_Boats: Monty 17 for sale $4,200
by JAUICEO＠aol.com 24 Dec '08

24 Dec '08

Rodney - Do you have any photos of the boat, if so, would like to have a look at them, John O In a message dated 12/23/2008 6:37:31 P.M. Central Standard Time, JAUICEO(a)aol.com writes: Rodney, I am interested in the M-17 - What year is it and what condition is the hull and keel in? I have been watching for a good Montromery 17 in this price range if it is in good condition. I live in San Antonio, and would like to drive over and take a look at it if it is what I am shopping for. Regards John O. In a message dated 12/23/2008 2:34:35 P.M. Central Standard Time, hgro(a)alltel.net writes: Rodney: What year is your boat, how many sails, have you seen the keel out of water, & is it the original mahogany rudder? Any pictures? Thanks! HGR On Dec 23, 2008, at 1:13 PM, Rodney Holland wrote: > I will be moving to an area where trailer sailing is the only option > and I don't want to trailer, so I'm selling this Monty I've only had > 10 months. I've had it docked at my boathouse in freshwater on Lake > Livingston for about 8 months. Sails are old, comes with a great 5hp > Yamaha outboard, and is a beautiful boat! I bought from a boatyard > owner friend who'd taken it on trade on a large boat, faired and > painted the hull just one year ago. It's a beautiful deep royal blue. > I've also done a first rate job of wooding down and finishing all > brightwork with 8 coats of Epiphanes varnish. The boat is amazing > looking for it's age. I basically rebuilt the trailer last year as > well. Posting here first before I try other methods, because I know > what a following this type boat has. The boat is near Houston, TX > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000… 5) _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000…)

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Re: M_Boats: Monty 17 for sale $4,200
by JAUICEO＠aol.com 24 Dec '08

24 Dec '08

Rodney, I am interested in the M-17 - What year is it and what condition is the hull and keel in? I have been watching for a good Montromery 17 in this price range if it is in good condition. I live in San Antonio, and would like to drive over and take a look at it if it is what I am shopping for. Regards John O. In a message dated 12/23/2008 2:34:35 P.M. Central Standard Time, hgro(a)alltel.net writes: Rodney: What year is your boat, how many sails, have you seen the keel out of water, & is it the original mahogany rudder? Any pictures? Thanks! HGR On Dec 23, 2008, at 1:13 PM, Rodney Holland wrote: > I will be moving to an area where trailer sailing is the only option > and I don't want to trailer, so I'm selling this Monty I've only had > 10 months. I've had it docked at my boathouse in freshwater on Lake > Livingston for about 8 months. Sails are old, comes with a great 5hp > Yamaha outboard, and is a beautiful boat! I bought from a boatyard > owner friend who'd taken it on trade on a large boat, faired and > painted the hull just one year ago. It's a beautiful deep royal blue. > I've also done a first rate job of wooding down and finishing all > brightwork with 8 coats of Epiphanes varnish. The boat is amazing > looking for it's age. I basically rebuilt the trailer last year as > well. Posting here first before I try other methods, because I know > what a following this type boat has. The boat is near Houston, TX > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000…)

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Re: M_Boats: Monty 17 for sale $4,200
by JDavies104＠aol.com 23 Dec '08

23 Dec '08

Rod, While I'm not in the market for an M-17 (one is enough for me), I would be interested in your experience in refinishing the brightwork. What technique did you use for stripping and cleaning the teak? Varnish remover? Sanding? Teak cleaner? Did you take the wood off the boat, or work with it in place? One of my winter projects is refinishing the teak on Lynne L, and being new to the process can use all the advice I can get. Thanks, Rick M-17 Lynne L ************** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp& icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025)

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Monty 17 for sale $4,200
by Rodney Holland 23 Dec '08

23 Dec '08

I will be moving to an area where trailer sailing is the only option and I don't want to trailer, so I'm selling this Monty I've only had 10 months. I've had it docked at my boathouse in freshwater on Lake Livingston for about 8 months. Sails are old, comes with a great 5hp Yamaha outboard, and is a beautiful boat! I bought from a boatyard owner friend who'd taken it on trade on a large boat, faired and painted the hull just one year ago. It's a beautiful deep royal blue. I've also done a first rate job of wooding down and finishing all brightwork with 8 coats of Epiphanes varnish. The boat is amazing looking for it's age. I basically rebuilt the trailer last year as well. Posting here first before I try other methods, because I know what a following this type boat has. The boat is near Houston, TX

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m15 conversion
by mrh219＠yahoo.com 23 Dec '08

23 Dec '08

Doug, your conversion brings to mind the Winklebrig sailboats from England. I coveted those boats for several years, especially the later ones with the high peaked gaff, but the complications of importing always seemed too daunting. http://www.jegsweb.co.uk/boats/winklebrig/winklebrig1.htm

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Re: M_Boats: North Channel back in 2007 and San Juan 2009 update
by treed＠communitycareinc.com 23 Dec '08

23 Dec '08

Doug....Where is the N Channel. I would like to go depending on how far I have to travel from TN....Tony E. Tony Reed -----Original Message----- From: Doug Kelch <doug_kelch(a)yahoo.com> Subj: Re: M_Boats: North Channel back in 2007 and San Juan 2009 update Date: Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:12 am Size: 1K To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Correction on the 2009 North Channel trip - it is June 22th though July 4 th, leaving the weekends for travel time.Â We already have 6 skippers ready to go. Thanks Doug Kelch --- On Sun, 12/21/08, Larry E Yake <leyake(a)juno.com> wrote: From: Larry E Yake <leyake(a)juno.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: North Channel back in 2007 and San Juan 2009 update To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 10:31 PM Oh, yeah! Can't you just picture 97 Montgomery's sailing in formation?! Speaking of cruises, the dates have been set for the 2009 San Juan cruise. We'll be launching on June 13th and cruising through the San Juan and Canadian Gulf Islands until the 27th. Larry Yake M17 #200 CornDog "In a power boat you get there faster. In a sailboat you're already there." On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 03:15:04 GMT "bownez(a)juno.com" <bownez(a)juno.com> writes: > Hi Doug, > > Well, 7 boats I did see. (our 6 Monty's and Annie's Slipper 17). > Looks like I didn't miss anything after all. > I thought maybe you and Larry Yake may be in competition to see how > may boats you can form in a group to go adventure sailing. > Good to hear a return trip to the North Channel is being planned for > 2009. > > Later pal. > > Bones > > ____________________________________________________________ > Hotel pics, info and virtual tours. Click here to book a hotel > online. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2iLrYMJeEy91OlpKhpzo66c 1P5BMLIAcchw21m3RlXks2PP/ > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats --- message truncated ---

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