December 2008 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Super deal on Raymarine stuff
by Nick Cherau 27 Dec '08

27 Dec '08

If anyone is looking for Raymarine stuff, Raymarine UK in England sells it for a lot less than it costs here in the US. So much less that even with the shipping it's still a really good deal. I just picked up an ST 60 depth display, without the transducer for use as a repeater, for $125. That's brand new with all the documentation, a short SeaTalk cable, the power cable and mounting hardware delivered to my door by DHL Express. Although it comes without the transducer it still has the transducer connections in back as well as the two SeaTalk connections so it can be used as a primary unit. It's not the newer ST 60 Plus but that too is cheaper over there. The funny thing is, that's Raymarine's headquarters so you are getting them from the source. The company maintains an eBay store at http://stores.ebay.com/raymarine-electronics Now I'm saving my pennies for the knotmeter, though having looked at the JDC Speedwatch I'm kind of torn between the two. Nice not to have to put another hole in the boat. _________________________________________________________________________________________________ Fair tide and a steady breeze, Nick

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Fw: Re: Teak finishes
by Nick Cherau 26 Dec '08

26 Dec '08

> From: Nick Cherau <lilyandnick(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Teak finishes > Hi Bones, > Yeah Penetrol, that's the stuff. I've never had the courage > to use it on chalky fiberglass, sticking instead to the > tried and true wax and buff treatment. Something to do, no doubt, > with my past profession as a builder, a profession notorious > for its reluctance to embrace new ways of doing things; > especially on other people's dimes. In light of that I > may try the Penetrol treatment on the fiberglass roof of my > 12 year old Roadtrek and see what happens. If I screw it up, I won't have to answer to anyone else. It'll be my problem. > > I really wish Flood still sold Deks Olje because it did a > good job and at half the cost of Cetol. I did wonder if > maybe Deks Olje was really Penetrol in a fancy container. I > should have paid more attention in inorganic chemistry. Then > perhaps I could mix up my own formula. > > I remember that the old timers at the Marine Biological Lab > in Woods Hole had what seemed to me a very unorthodox > approach to the annual repainting of their boats. These were > a couple of 30 foot open work boats used for collecting > marine specimens. The Sagitta and the Asterias. >Kerosene was used to thin the paint and after brushing it on > they'd wait until it was tacky and then using a hose, > spray a fine mist of cold water on it. The result was a > super glossy hull worthy of a Hinckly. It was easily the > equivalent of Awlgrip, which was unknown at the time. > _________________________________________________________________________________________________ > Fair tide and a steady breeze, > Nick > > > > --- On Thu, 12/25/08, bownez(a)juno.com > <bownez(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > From: bownez(a)juno.com <bownez(a)juno.com> > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Teak finishes > > To: lilyandnick(a)yahoo.com, > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > Date: Thursday, December 25, 2008, 6:05 AM > > HI Nick, > > > > I have read about Penatrol but have yet to play with > any. > > Isn't that the product which is suppose to make > your > > faded gelcoat look like new? > > > > Merry Christmas, > > > > Bones > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Click to shop and compare high quality air > compressors. > > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2RmzZYVIHs41miYBBlprZsRll…

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Re: M_Boats: Teak finishes
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 26 Dec '08

26 Dec '08

I think it means 'Manufacturer's Stinky Deadly Stuff' or something like that - Jerry was fond of reading them in the "old" days, mumbled something about special governmental concern for the small business community or such....... In a message dated 12/25/2008 6:30:45 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, JDavies104(a)aol.com writes: Gary, I know what an MSRP is, but MSDS is new to me. Is it something to sniff??? Thanks, Rick M-17 #633 Lynne L ************** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaol… m00000025) _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000…)

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Re: M_Boats: Teak finishes
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 26 Dec '08

26 Dec '08

Okay - MSDS's are _http://www.ilpi.com/msdS/faq/partb.html_ (http://www.ilpi.com/msdS/faq/partb.html) In a message dated 12/25/2008 9:45:53 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, GILASAILR(a)aol.com writes: I think it means 'Manufacturer's Stinky Deadly Stuff' or something like that - Jerry was fond of reading them in the "old" days, mumbled something about special governmental concern for the small business community or such....... In a message dated 12/25/2008 6:30:45 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, JDavies104(a)aol.com writes: Gary, I know what an MSRP is, but MSDS is new to me. Is it something to sniff??? Thanks, Rick M-17 #633 Lynne L ************** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaol… m00000025) _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000… 5) _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000…)

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Another Custom Montgomery 17 interior....
by Bob From California 26 Dec '08

26 Dec '08

In recent times (last year) we built a new Montgomery 17 for singlehanded use..only the two quarter berths with a centerline head forward; several oval shaped bulkheads with the V berth entirely removed. A galley area and 4 bronze opening ports. Simple yet functional for it's intented use. I do have photos of the interior infastructure for those interested in this project. The owners son finished the teak trim and details and this interior can be seen at this link: He did a remarkable job. http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/09/projects/monty/index.htm Happy New Year to everyone..! Bob (949) 489-8227

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Re: M_Boats: Teak finishes
by JDavies104＠aol.com 26 Dec '08

26 Dec '08

Gary, I know what an MSRP is, but MSDS is new to me. Is it something to sniff??? Thanks, Rick M-17 #633 Lynne L ************** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaol…)

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Re: M_Boats: Teak finishes
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 26 Dec '08

26 Dec '08

Happy Holidays to all the Monty Folk and their families. I have to 'chime in' here on the wood refinishing topic. Location Phoenix, AZ - (my Father-in Law lives in NY and FL, and says we live in Hell.) It is the lower lattitudes, lots of sun and hot as the dickens - so I have found any hard film i.e.. varnish -polyurethane etc., to be very short lived and lots of work. I love varnish personally, the whole 'experience', but I only use it down here on items that are NOT stored outdoors. Used to use Deks - just applied the last of my Deks Olje #1 to my oars for the dinghy, I think the consolidation of companies and those darn tree huggers may have helped to point out the stuff was toxic as anything on earth, LOL. Central Arizona solution - meaning dry air, high heat, heavy UV exposure based on past life in boat biz, - 100% Pure Tung Oil - I get it at Woodworkers Source - _www.woodworkerssource.com_ (http://www.woodworkerssource.com) Old Masters 100% Pure Tung Oil part # 90004 quart can. We use it indoors and on the boat. (Watco Teak Oil was not too long lived in our experience) This stuff lasts about 16 +- months uncovered. Remember - Wear eye, ear, nose and throat protection, if it is heavy - don't lift it; if it smells good or strange, don't sniff it; and follow all manufacturers directions - Read the MSDS's and don't dare tell your neighbor what you are using! Actual mileage may vary depending on how much "fun pedal" you experience! Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukah, Happy Kwanzaa! Peace and Joy to ALL! Take Care,Have Fun, GO In a message dated 12/24/2008 11:01:18 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, lilyandnick(a)yahoo.com writes: Bones, In your trials of various oil finishes, did you try any of the Flood products like Marine Penetrol. If so, what did you think of it? Back in the early 90's I used Deks Olje #1 and #2 and liked it but I see it's been discontinued. More's the pity. ______________________________________________________________________________ ___________________ Fair tide and a steady breeze, Nick _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! **************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000…)

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Re: M_Boats: Another Custom Montgomery 17 interior....
by bownez＠juno.com 25 Dec '08

25 Dec '08

That is a true work of art. Very impressive. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Plan ahead with a quick and convenient rental car. Click now. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2i4K6tAhtqsthYKjGRGUoVtNP…

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Re: M_Boats: Teak finishes
by bownez＠juno.com 25 Dec '08

25 Dec '08

HI Nick, I have read about Penatrol but have yet to play with any. Isn't that the product which is suppose to make your faded gelcoat look like new? Merry Christmas, Bones ____________________________________________________________ Click here to learn more about nursing jobs. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2bVM9cfLkYmzodBGiUCeO8AYr…

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Re: M_Boats: Another Custom Montgomery 17 interior....
by JDavies104＠aol.com 25 Dec '08

25 Dec '08

In a message dated 12/25/08 12:20:12 AM, ocean37(a)hotmail.com writes: > > http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/09/projects/monty/index.htm > Bob, Wow, that's a beautiful interior, and a great idea for a new layout. My son lives in Santa Rosa Beach, which is not far from Niceville, so next time I visit I may try to have a look at it. The bay there is also a super sailing area, with protected water and almost always a good breeze. Merry Christmas, Rick M-17 #633 Lynne L ************** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaol…)

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