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Crew Capacity...
by Rick Langer 08 Jan '08

08 Jan '08

Lou, I haven't notice water entering the cockpit when weight is added to an M15. When on a cruise in Maine I had 4 guys (probably 750 pounds) and a lot of extra weight do to cruising supplies. I saw a picture of us leaving the anchorage and the boat was really squatting, but no water in the cockpit. On the return to the anchorage we had more than 20 pounds of lobster, still no water. I remember the trip Frank mentioned in "Seas the Day" and I don't remember any water that day either. I do remember 4 or 5 of us sitting in the cockpit of an M17 and taking on a lot of water, not only in the cockpit but also in the cabin. I'm not sure, but I think that's because the scuppers are at the transom and all that weight just put them below the waterline. I do take on water in the cockpit when beating hard, but it's not substantial and leaves the same way it comes in. However, sometimes a small amount manages to find it's way into the bilge. I guess adding more weight would cause more water to come into the cockpit, but I would consider it a non issue. Rick M15 #337 Bluebird > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 22:25:45 -0500 > From: "Louis Aliotta" <capnlou(a)ec.rr.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Crew Capacity... > To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <000c01c851a6$2808b760$6401a8c0@TOSHIBA2RIVERS> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Has anyone had any experience with 3 crew members on the M15. I would > like to take 3 people out but I am not that familiar with what I might > experience. 2 people are around 170lbs each and one is about 230lbs. If > I keep the heavier person in the center and balance out myself and the > other person would I be alright? One of my concerns is the water that > enters the cockpit at times when extra weight is added. > Please let me know if anyone has experience or advice about this. Lou >

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Re: Split Tail mainsheets
by John R. Butler 08 Jan '08

08 Jan '08

Many thanks to Steve R. M-15 #119 and his link to the daysailer pdf on Traveler Systems. It finally permeated the nearly impervious crust to my feeble mind that the split tail is just another means of adjusting the hight of the triangle. Many thanks to Steve, and to the fine services of this great meeting of the many Montgomery-fixated minds. John R. Butler theoldcat(a)cox.net

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Re: Split tail mainsheet
by Steve R. 08 Jan '08

08 Jan '08

John, This subject comes up periodically but I do not know of anyone who has found a better solution for the M-15. Here is a PDF document of various rigging arrangements used on DaySailers to allow adjustment of the transom rope "horse". http://daysailer.org/pdf/qtr_TravelerSystemsV38_1.pdf Some other boats have a transom mounted traveler bar, which resembles a big towel bar, with a captive ring that secures the main sheet block. This seems to be popular with traditional cat boats. In some cases there are traveler lines so the ring may be pulled port or starboard along the bar as needed. The Rhodes 22 uses a similar captive ring on a tube that forms part of the stern pulpit. A P-19 owner mounted a traveler track with car on his stern pulpit. One of the Boston Whaler models used a stern mounted track. The transom was made with a notch to allow the tiller to pass beneath the track and above the transom notch. Of course, you would have to modify the kick-up rudder arrangement of a M-15 to do this. There are pluses and minuses for all of these arrangements. I am sure someday one of us will come up with something clever that will improve the situation. steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY

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Re: M_Boats: Re: Split tail mainsheet
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 08 Jan '08

08 Jan '08

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Re: M_Boats: Re: Split tail mainsheet
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 08 Jan '08

08 Jan '08

Doug, You are correct in noting the splice being the weak point - technology being what it is today vs ten years ago - the splicing method employed by most good companies that do this type of work is to overstitch the splice as they are prone to coming unwoven - by overstitching the spice is quite strong - have used this type of mainsheet for yeats on my C-15'2 (2 boats) and my current M-17. Chack with Anapolis or other good companies that do quality splicing work. - If you atre interested I will try and get photos in two weeks when we sail the AZ Yacht CLub B-Day Regatta. Take Care, Have Fun. Gary O. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

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The Webmaster is out...
by Bill Lamica 07 Jan '08

07 Jan '08

Hi all, I will be unavailable to provide Photo Site updates for about two weeks. And, I'm pretty much caught up anyway. So, if any of you Southern Climate Sailors have access to your craft, there is plenty of room for a couple more M-Boats on the site. I do have a new page coming out for the past N/W Cruise. I'll publish that when I get back. Best regards to you all, Bill www.MSOGPhotoSite.com <http://www.msogphotosite.com/>

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Boat Covers Revisited
by Bill Lamica 07 Jan '08

07 Jan '08

Made a page with the current three examples of Boat Covers. This link is direct to the new page: http://www.msogphotosite.com/boatcovers.html When more covers are created, it would be appreciated to send photos. Good idea to have a couple examples of inexpensive versions as well.

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It's about time
by Bill Lamica 07 Jan '08

07 Jan '08

I was beginning to think there weren't any more Montgomery 15's out there. Karsten Brooks and family have sent some great shots of their M15. The link is direct to their page on the Photo Site http://www.msogphotosite.com/15blueberry.html enjoy

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re: February sailing in Lake Havasu
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 06 Jan '08

06 Jan '08

Dan, I got your message and emailed you the info. Hope you can join us. We are approaching 20 boats! Sean **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

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re: February sailing in Lake Havasu
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 06 Jan '08

06 Jan '08

Hey Steve, Sorry to take three days to get back to you. I've been at work for 48 hours, then had to make a dash to the airport in Vegas today. Just got home and a chance to get online. SO......Yes! Come on down. We'll find a boat for you guys to crew on. Sat night we'll be having dinner at Black Meadow Landing on the Calif side of the lake. I'm sure we can figure out something to get you guys back on Sat night. I know that one of our local sailor is going to be out of commission due to knee surgery for sailing and planning on bringing a powerboat (he has a good excuse so he'll be our token power boater). He's planning on heading back up to town on Sat night. I'll try to get in touch with him and see if we can get you a ride back from Black Meadow on Sat night on his boat. Sean **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

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