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Thanks San Juan'ers
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 14 Aug '07

14 Aug '07

Can't wait to see Raven!!!! After seeing what Rick has already done to her I can't even begin to imagine how great she must be lookin'! Way to go Rick!!!!! Larry, Count me in for San Juan's 2009!!!! Heck I'm ready to do another trip for 2007! Sean M23 Dauntless ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

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Re: M_Boats: Outboard Woes
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 13 Aug '07

13 Aug '07

I have had great luck using Sta-Bil fuel treatment in ALL of my fuel tanks - My Evinrude 4hp sat for 7(!) years and started, to my surprise, on the second pull, 5 years later started on the second pull but had to have carb cleaned. Same tank of gas. (well --what they call gasoline nowadays - lottsa additives) NFIW. Gary O M-17 #316a Team Geezer Racing...Old and in the Way ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

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self steering line
by Rick Langer 13 Aug '07

13 Aug '07

Rich, I'm afraid I don't know the name of the knot that Doug showed me, but it's an adjustable cinch knot that works well. To tie it, loop the line over the tiller, make two complete turns of the bitter end over the standing line which forms a loop, then make one turn on the standing line on the inside of the loop. Do the same with the other end of the remote steering line. Cinch them tight and they should hold well. As a side note, I've found that this knot works well when setting up a tent or fly. It is much superior to those little metal or plastic cinchers that come with equipment. Any time you want to tighten a line this knot does the trick. I'm on my way (Saturday) to a cruise on Lake Champlain, so if Doug doesn't respond, let me know and I'll take a picture of mine while setup. By the way, we refer to this as a remote steering system, not to be confused with the sheet to tiller self steering system. Rick Langer M15 #337 Bluebird > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 17:19:20 -0700 (PDT) > From: Richard Cottrell <rc2222(a)pacbell.net> > Subject: M_Boats: self steering line > To: Montgomery Boats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.Xmission.com> > Message-ID: <703376.90608.qm(a)web51412.mail.re2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi Doug Kelch, > > Since installing your self-steering system on Really > I've been sailing with Spinnaker up in heavier winds > with good success while single handling. > > Question: How do you attach the lines to the tiller? > I've been using half hitches but they get loose and > things can get a bit sloppy. > > Rich Cottrell >

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Re: M_Boats: Thanks San Juan'ers
by Rmceagrella＠aol.com 13 Aug '07

13 Aug '07

Here, here...so many great shots. Thank you so much for the work Randy...we owe ya BIG TIME! We both talk often of the great time and honestly cool people we had the honor of meeting. Larry I'm so glad you went "one more time" and hope to see some of you out there again. Oh ya, if any of you North Idaho folks thought you saw a dark blue hulled M23 you did. That's Raven's latest change. Fair Winds Rick A M23 #017 Raven ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

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Re: M_Boats: Thanks San Juan'ers
by Rmceagrella＠aol.com 13 Aug '07

13 Aug '07

Here,here....So many great pix. Thanks so much Randy for your hard work. We owe ya! S ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

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Re: M_Boats: Outboard Woes
by Bob Eeg 13 Aug '07

13 Aug '07

I'll have to go with Franks assessment. The idle jet has a clog from old gas. This is a common problem. Bob -----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Royce <jeffroyce(a)sbcglobal.net> >Sent: Aug 13, 2007 6:08 AM >To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: M_Boats: Outboard Woes > > > >Help! > > I bought a brand new Nissan 4HP 4-stroke motor last year and it was very nice. Quiet. Started on the second pull every time. It has probably no more than 10 hours on it at this time as i use it mostly for ramp purposes. Up until last weekend it has been running perfectly. > > Last weekend, though, i could not start it at the ramp. Not a sputter... not a single sign of life. We had to test our sailing skills and get out of the harbor under sail. Good practice but not something i wanted to do again. The next day i went to play with it to see if i could figure out what the problem was (right! I know outboards like Kobe Bryant knows humility). When i went to start it up on the trailer it cranked up on the second pull just like normal. I had no water hooked up to it so i let it go only a couple seconds and shrugged off our experience to some sort of anomoly. > > Based on that succcess we went out again yesterday (Lake Pardee for those of you in norCal... fishing lake, no waterskiers allowed... lake level 98% of capacity and very clean). I went to start it up and it started as expected, but.... > > When i pushed the choke back in upon warm-up it proceeded to die... i pulled the choke back out to ensure that she would keep running ... perhaps she needed to warm up a bit more... pushed the choke back in and she died and would not start again. Showed no sign of life... > > My novice thought is... fuel filter? Water in the line? I don't know how that could happen but i suppose it could. I will attempt to replace that myself if that is a probable cause but i thought i would throw it at this group first as you folks are dialed on all aspects of the Monty Life!!! > > Thanks for your help, > > Jeff > M17 #336 >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Boat Builder

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Re: M_Boats: Outboard Woes
by Michael Mellor 13 Aug '07

13 Aug '07

I don't know if Nissan in like a Honda, but Honda's have a water temprature vlave and if it gets stuck open it will start on full choke but wont run with the ckoke off. Some times won't start at all. Make sure your gas tank vent is open. -----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Royce <jeffroyce(a)sbcglobal.net> >Sent: Aug 13, 2007 9:08 AM >To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Subject: M_Boats: Outboard Woes > > > >Help! > > I bought a brand new Nissan 4HP 4-stroke motor last year and it was very nice. Quiet. Started on the second pull every time. It has probably no more than 10 hours on it at this time as i use it mostly for ramp purposes. Up until last weekend it has been running perfectly. > > Last weekend, though, i could not start it at the ramp. Not a sputter... not a single sign of life. We had to test our sailing skills and get out of the harbor under sail. Good practice but not something i wanted to do again. The next day i went to play with it to see if i could figure out what the problem was (right! I know outboards like Kobe Bryant knows humility). When i went to start it up on the trailer it cranked up on the second pull just like normal. I had no water hooked up to it so i let it go only a couple seconds and shrugged off our experience to some sort of anomoly. > > Based on that succcess we went out again yesterday (Lake Pardee for those of you in norCal... fishing lake, no waterskiers allowed... lake level 98% of capacity and very clean). I went to start it up and it started as expected, but.... > > When i pushed the choke back in upon warm-up it proceeded to die... i pulled the choke back out to ensure that she would keep running ... perhaps she needed to warm up a bit more... pushed the choke back in and she died and would not start again. Showed no sign of life... > > My novice thought is... fuel filter? Water in the line? I don't know how that could happen but i suppose it could. I will attempt to replace that myself if that is a probable cause but i thought i would throw it at this group first as you folks are dialed on all aspects of the Monty Life!!! > > Thanks for your help, > > Jeff > M17 #336 >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

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self steering line
by Richard Cottrell 13 Aug '07

13 Aug '07

Hi Doug Kelch, Since installing your self-steering system on Really I've been sailing with Spinnaker up in heavier winds with good success while single handling. Question: How do you attach the lines to the tiller? I've been using half hitches but they get loose and things can get a bit sloppy. Rich Cottrell

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Re: M_Boats: My "new" used M 15
by chbenneck＠juno.com 12 Aug '07

12 Aug '07

Hi Blake, When I had our M15, I had a small Danforth compass mounted on a piece of teak board. I just placed it on the cockpit sole at the front end of the cockpit. The bulkhead supplied a reference point, and if the compass was moved (by feet) it was instantly visible as a gap between teak board and bulkhead, so alignment was no problem. The advantage, as far as I was concerned was: 1. The compass was easy to stow when not in use. 2. I didn't have to mount it in the aft end of the cabin. Mounting it there means that on one tack it is handy to see, on the other you are craning your neck. 3. Fewer holes to make in the M15. Connie ex M15 #400 LEPPO

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Socal Potters welcome all
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 11 Aug '07

11 Aug '07

Ron, With respect to the Socal Potter group, they welcome all. They have no formal membership, just a web site maintained by the informal leader, "Capt. Howie". He's a really great guy and his motivation is just to get everyone he can out to their scheduled sails once a month. There are no dues, no rosters, no rules except common courtesy of course. He posts the dates and locations of the get-togethers and if you can make it great, if not, see you next time. Usually a week or so before a scheduled sail there is a "roll call" on the webpage message board so you can see who is going to attend. They welcomed us last year and made us feel very welcomed. We are looking forward to meeting up with them again. Thanks for the comments on the 23. She's still a work in progress and you know as well as I do that pictures make things look a little nicer than they really are sometimes, nevertheless, I drag her around behind my truck like a proud daddy showing off his new baby. We've had a ton of fun on her now that we have got her sailing. Of course, all my measurements on the "Fun Scale" have been forever skewed after attending the San Juan Rendezvous! yearning for 70 degrees, big trees, maybe a little rain now and then, and of course a group of Monty friends, Sean M23 Dauntless ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

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