September 2006 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Re: M_Boats: cleaning fiberglass deck surfaces
by DORUDD＠aol.com 24 Sep '06

24 Sep '06

It sounds weird but Sno Bol toilet bowl cleaner works great on dark specks on fiberglass. It basically has hydrochloric acid in it. And it gives your boat that fresh feeling. I don't know what it does to gelcoat or fiberglass over a long period but the friend who told me about it has been doing it for years.

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re: cleaning fiberglass deck surfaces
by Steve R. 24 Sep '06

24 Sep '06

I have used several products that contain oxalic acid. Some are boat type products ($$$) and some are household type products sold for cleaning fiberglass bathroom fixtures. They all seem to work equally well for me. steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY ******************************************************************* I noticed that dirt/dark particles collect very quickly on the boat's surface (especially non-sticky parts). What do you all use to clean the deck/cockpit? How do I get rid of these dark specks on the non-sticky surface? Thanks for your help! Donglai M15 #612

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Compass suggestions
by Joe Moore 24 Sep '06

24 Sep '06

Any comments, suggestions, ideas, images on compass models and installation on a M15 would be greatly appreciated. Joe Moore M15 "Midnight Passage"

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Re: M_Boats: M15 compass suggestions
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 23 Sep '06

23 Sep '06

Joe, Try mounting your compass in a companionway board specifically made for the compass - you may find you don't need to have it "permanently installed in a 3+-" hole thru the bulkhead of your boat. If you do make frequent use of it mount it in the bulkhead and go sailing. Many folks use them in drop boards and are happy. Good luck - Enjoy your new boat - Have Fun. Gary O. M-17 #316a Air Powered (Mine personally is on the mast (sometimes)) “I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.” -- Will Rogers

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bottom paint & comments on my second sail
by Donglai Gong 23 Sep '06

23 Sep '06

Hey all, I went out for a sail this afternoon at a nearby lake (Round Valley S.P. NJ) and I just want to say that I'm absolutely loving my boat. :-) The M15 is perfect for me singlehanding. The shallow draft and kick up rudder allow me to just walk from the boat to shore. I had a big grin on my face when I did that. The new shrouds are working well but I think they are just a bit shorter than the old ones because my forestay feels short now. I vaguely remember i read somewhere that Jerry Montgomery prefers this kind of setup with the mast sloping back slightly because it makes the boat go a bit faster. I don't know how much of an angle sloping backwards is good but I think I can do a little more...however I'll need a forestay that's 2 inches longer. I can almost sail the boat hands free if I set up and the sail right and sit at the right spot. It's the rudder that's messing it up right now. I think the boat should sail well rudderless in moderate wind, I might try that next time. Anyway, it was an whole afternoon of fun and only one shackle is lost...not bad. :-D Another thing, I have two sail battens missing and I've been trying to find replacement at West Mariner and other local boat shops. None of them have the right size and the materials feel very cheap compare to the original. Does anyone know where I can get some good sail battens for the M15? Finally onto a maintenance issue, I noticed that the bottom paint has been peeling off my M15. I'll need to repaint it soon. What kind of bottom paint does everyone use? I heard the West Marine stuff is pretty good. Also, what's the best way for me to remove the old bottom paint? There seems to be just one layer on my boat and large sections are beginning to peel, doesn't seem like it'll take much effort if I have the right tools. Thanks for your advice! Cheers, Donglai M15 #612

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cleaning fiberglass deck surfaces
by Donglai Gong 23 Sep '06

23 Sep '06

I noticed that dirt/dark particles collect very quickly on the boat's surface (especially non-sticky parts). What do you all use to clean the deck/cockpit? How do I get rid of these dark specks on the non-sticky surface? Thanks for your help! Donglai M15 #612

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introduction
by Thebaldyone2＠aol.com 22 Sep '06

22 Sep '06

Hello, let me introduce you to me. I am a Wednesday night racer, I crew on a Pearson Triton. Great Skipper and crew. We have sailed all over San Francisco bay. I have had the opportunity to sail on a Schooner on the bay too. I am growing tired of sailing on OPBs. I am currently working on a Stevenson's Weekender. I can see that it is a great training boat but won't take me far. Size is a major issue. Right now I am down to the Catalina/Capri 18, Precision 18, and the Montgomery 17. Precision is on the East coast. I have seen a Catalina 18. I hope someone in the group can let me have a look at their M-17. I would like to hear from anyone that sails their Monty in S.F. bay. Thanks for you time, Ken.

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RE: M_Boats: Poor man's roller furling...
by Tom Smith 21 Sep '06

21 Sep '06

Speaking quickly before Randy gets a chance to give the correct answer, I think it's a loop only in the sense that it's a single line. The downhaul end of the halyard connects to the second or so sail hank, and the shackle attaches to the head of the sail. My experience is I have to connect the downhaul at least two sailhanks down from the head of the sail to prevent fouling when pulling the sail down... t Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle M17 #496 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+tsmith=nextit.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+tsmith=nextit.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Rick Langer Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:36 AM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Poor man's roller furling... Hey Randy, I think that's a great idea. How do you attach the halyard shackle to the loop? Thanks, Rick M15 #337 Bluebird > Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:35:51 -0700 > From: "RandyG" <RandyG(a)cite.nic.edu> > Subject: RE: M_Boats: Poor man's roller furling... does it work? > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: > <8331CA150C5B404A9215D167DA103A4E013AE6(a)exch1.cite.nic.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Brian, > > Our 1988 M15 and M17 both came rigged with Jib halyards and downhauls > lead back to the cockpit. On both boats I replaced the individual jib > halyard and downhaul lines with a single line, in effect making a big > loop of both lines . As you raise or lower the jib the single line > feeds in-and-out of the cockpit, leaving nothing to coil or stow. > > Randy > M17 #410 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: Thoughts on down-sizing
by DORUDD＠aol.com 21 Sep '06

21 Sep '06

In a message dated 9/15/2006 2:53:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, chbenneck(a)juno.com writes: Hi David, As with all sailing questions, ...... that depends. It depends on your sailing area; on your and your friends sailing experience and confidence in what kind of weather you can face. Under Sunday afternoon, 10 knot breeze, good weather forecast, no sudden squalls or fronts roaring through, two adult couples in an M15 cockpit is fine, and would be fun. The M15 stern squats a bit in the water with four adults in the cockpit, but you can have an enjoyable time. The situation changes though, if the weather deteriorates; the wind strength increases, you, and your friends are relatively inexperienced sailors, and home port is still far away. Now you are going to have to reef the main; maybe change the head sail to a working jib, close the companionway hatch and put in the hatch boards. Then four adults in the cockpit become two too many for easy boat handling. ....so the, ".....that depends" is a function of your sailing experience, your boat handling experience in deteriorating weather conditions; how far away is a safe port, or your home port; is the weather phenomena a short term situation - a local summer thunderstorm that blows by in half an hour - or is it a Nor'easter slowly settling in for three days; can you anchor somewhere in a good lee; ..... ? You alone can answer these questions. Connie _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Thanks for the good advice. DAVID O. RUDD Gallatin River Communications L.L.C. 625 S. Second St., Springfield IL 62704 (217) 744-2420 Fax (217) 744-2421

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Re: M_Boats: 2007 Montgomery Sailboats RanTan Lake Pleasant, AZ 1/12-1/15/2006
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 20 Sep '06

20 Sep '06

John, We will spread the word - but if you are still the owner in January (gosh forbid) how about your boat at the lake with you and a BIG smile! We would like to have a big Montgomery turnout. I will pass the info on your boat along to all I meet. Thanks, Gary O. “I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.” -- Will Rogers

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