June 2005 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

RE: M_Boats: OK, I think I'm ready to sail this thing...
by Hughston, Larry 17 Jun '05

17 Jun '05

Nice job on the Monty Bob. What finish material did you use on your keel/hull? Did you have to polish it out later? Thanks, Larry hull # 189 (in need of lots of cosmetic help. I am doing many of the same things here in Sacramento) -----Original Message----- From: Bob Olson [mailto:bobo4u@qwest.net] Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 7:20 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: OK, I think I'm ready to sail this thing... So, after two months of fixing and adding stuff to my new (old) Monty 15, I think I'm finally ready to put it in some water. For the curious (and picture hungry), here's a brief list of stuff that I did; -- Rebuilt delaminated centerboard -- Re-faired the keel -- fixed rotten core under mast step and bow cleat -- Fixed adjustable motor mount and added access port -- Built new hatchboards (thanks Rachel for your Starboard suggestion) -- Added Jib downhaul -- Did major clean up and ding repair -- refinished all the teak 'Course, I was in school full time, so it took awhile. ;-) Here's a link to a few shots. http://www.users.qwest.net/~bobo4u/monty_pix.html Wish I had had these available when I was trying to figure some of this stuff out. So, feel free to borrow. Anybody want to go sailing? I'm getting ((((((nervous)))))), but excited. --Bob Olson M-15 #219 "Sequel" P.S. I haven't been able to access the Funtigo site for months. Anybody having the same problem? Yes, I'm on a Mac. And yes, I've tried multiple browsers. The interesting thing is, I cna't even access Funtigo's home page. I think they need to change a couple of letters in their name! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: more new stuff on the photo site...
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 16 Jun '05

16 Jun '05

In a message dated 1/22/2005 12:38:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, bobo4u(a)qwest.net writes: Sorry to respond to list about this, but I don't know who codes the site. Hi Bob, Funtigo does it all. It's quite easy to use their site as they made it that way. If I had to do as you suggest... it wouldn't get done as I don't posses those skills. Now about funtigo... There is a possibility they can change something to assist those with other than an MS browser. However, I'm not the person to suggest whatever is needed as again, I dont posses those skills. Maybe you could write to Funtigo on the MSOG behalf, explain what their situation is and get a technical answer. That, after translation, we could all understand. As for me, I never heard of Foxfire or Safari before. I've always used Internet Explorer and don't know any better. You would be doing the group a favor if you can get an answer. Go to their main site at www.funtigo.com and at the lower left is a "contact us" link. If you want to get an idea of how they make it for their clients. You can sign up for a free trial funtigo membership. Thanks for any help, Bill

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Re: Bimini for an M17
by Steve R. 16 Jun '05

16 Jun '05

Brian, While I do not have a 17, I am in the midst of a bimini installation on my 15. My surprise finding so far: tubing cutters made for plumbing purposes have a very short live span when used to cut aluminum. After I wore out the second one, I did a little research. SailRite sells a Hi-Duty tubing cutter for $50. Aircraft Spruce, which Clarence has mentioned, has it for $30. The East coast branch is in Peachtree City, GA, so you may have next day delivery at standard shipping rates. So far, my biggest near disastrous mistake was to cut the same tube twice. I begin with a frame that is too wide and too tall, and modified it to fit my boat. I just lost track of what I had done. Some method of labeling the tubes would have avoided that mistake. My installation started off as a two-bow bimini that is centered slightly aft of the cabin. This will provide the maximum shade for my little bald head while I am seated in my usual position. It will also allow the hatch boards to be removed for ventilation while provide rain protection for the cabin. The bimini frame can stow forward and just clears the shrouds. If is stows aft it is in the way. To clear the main I had to switch to end boom sheeting. My initial design had a second two-bow bimini to cover the rear of the cockpit when anchored. This bimini frame was essentially installed backwards. To allow deployment, the boom had to be swung over to one side and tied off to a shroud. The main bows of the two biminis were joined by short tubes. They met near the center of the cockpit and were self supporting. While this arrangement was surprisingly sturdy and provided clearance for the boom, at times the main sheet fouled in the rear frame. I will replace the rear bimini with two fixed support tubes. I still want the rear portion of the cockpit to be covered at anchor. For this I will experiment with a single bow attached to the support tubes. This bow could be disassembled for storage, and the fabric top would zip on to the main top. I plan to leave the main bimini frame and support tubes permanently erected and install the additional bow as needed. I like being able to fold the frame back when going forward, without the entire bimini coming down. I have raised and lowered the mast several times in the driveway and at the boat ramp without incident. Towing the boat with the frame up was not a problem. Ultimately I hope to have tent-like sides to fully enclose the cockpit. However I have a lengthy to-do list for homne and garden tasks, so it may be some time before this project ends. I have gained new respect for professional bimini fabricators. I can appreciate why those folks charge what they do. steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY

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Re: Bimini for an M17
by Brian Gilbert 16 Jun '05

16 Jun '05

Hi All: I have a question for those of you who sail your M17 with a Bimini. I'd like to get one for my boat, but I'm not exactly sure what I need... so I have a few questions for you: What size Bimini did you get? (my guess is that I need one that's 36" high, and maybe six feet wide?) Does your bimini help, or is it a pain? Does it get in the way while you're sailing? If you had to do it over again(your bimini installation, I mean) what would you do/change? Thanks a bunch BG -- Brian Gilbert Marine Media M17 ex-"Stargazer" (423)876-9990 3404 Hartford Drive Chattanooga, TN 37415 www.sailingsmall.com

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First and longest leg complete
by B. Mayer 16 Jun '05

16 Jun '05

I'm in Vancouver, Washington, now, and no problems so far. The Subaru pulls well although on some of the steeper grades I could not have done over 55 if I wanted to and trailer brakes would have been nice. I kept it to 50 in 4th gear on the downgrades to avoid the need to brake as it definitely took longer than without the trailer. California picked yesterday to do a crackdown on speeders on Interstate 5 so it was a good day not to go fast. Without the trailer I'd have been one of them. Today is just the "short" run up to Mukilteo and then the ferry. Bobbie

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RE: M_Boats: How fast with these go...
by Hughston, Larry 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

You were not in a sailboat, your were in a powered hang glider with a boat attached! Fun!!! -----Original Message----- From: nbundek [mailto:nbundek@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:59 AM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: How fast with these go... I've toped 7.9 by GPS surfing a wave on a broad reach into Ventura Harbor. The swells were about 10 - 12' and breaking over the break water. The wind was around 18 MPH. This was in my M15. It's a strange feeling to see over the break water while gliding past it. Norm M15 #172 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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How fast have you gone?
by Rick Langer 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

It seems to me that in order to establish a true speed the boat needs to be sailed in opposite directions, to adjust for current. I just bought a Garmin GPS76MAP (in the mail). I suspect that on my home waters, the Hudson River, I can get very fast speeds (over ground), because current is always an issue on this river. The indiginous people called it the river that runs in both directions. Now that I think of it, sailing in opposite directions would be a good way to measure current speed. I'm not an expert, hell I'm not even a novice yet, but I guess the current speed would be 1/2 of the difference between the boat's speed (per GPS) in each direction. Rick Langer M15 #337

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Re: M_Boats: How fast have you gone?
by bownez＠juno.com 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

Hi Listers, I'm freshly home from the NW Monty cruise in the San Juans. Fellow M23er Chef Theo and I chartered a BCC for 8 days to fit in with the other Hess boats. On a run from Sucia Island to Stuart Island on a beam reach with the current I saw 7.8 knots on my GPS. I thought that was pretty good for a 28 foot, 14,000 lb cutter. It was surpassed the last day of the trip in Rosario Straight with 25 to 35 knot winds, 6 foot seas, broad reach with current, I saw 8.2 knots. What a ride... If you have never seen the San Juans, you must sail there. Bones

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tire inflation
by B. Mayer 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

I always inflate to the max amount cold pressure recommended as it gives better mileage and better tire wear. So that's fine. I'm going crazy today trying to pack and clean house when it is 97 out. (See why I'm headed north??) Bobbie

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Re: M_Boats: tire pressure
by chbenneck＠juno.com 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

Hi Bobbie, On my VW Jetta VR6 Wagon, for a light load the rear tire pressure is listed at 26 psi. For a full load, they tell you to inflate to 36 psi. With the trailer tongue weight, plus what you may have in the trunk of the car, I'd go at least 36 psi. Connie

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