June 2005 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Re: M_Boats: cockpit drain m-15
by Harvey G Wilson 27 Jun '05

27 Jun '05

Hi Bo... I had the same problem with Stargazer a few years ago...mostly leaves, etc blocking the drain hose. I resolved the problem by giving her an enema <VBG> a garden hose. Harvey/ Ga

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more on winch line
by B. Mayer 27 Jun '05

27 Jun '05

What kind of strength do I need on my winch line? I was going to put a strap on it and bought one, but it has a loop end and there is no way on my winch that I can figure to attach it (no holes for a 3 inch bolt.) It has the holes to thread the end of a rope or cable to anchor it. Bobbie

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RE: M_Boats: old varnish / fiberglass
by Kovach, Jerry 25 Jun '05

25 Jun '05

Craig, I purchased SOY.Gel at Fawcett Boat Supplies in Annapolis. You can obtain a list of other sales outlets by calling the manufacturer at 800.538.5069. Jerry -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+jerry.kovach=neustar.biz(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+jerry.kovach=neustar.biz@mailman.xmissi on.com]On Behalf Of Craig F. Honshell Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:19 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: old varnish / fiberglass Thanks, Jerry! Where did you find SOY.Gel? --Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: Kovach, Jerry To: Craig F. Honshell ; For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:33 AM Subject: RE: M_Boats: old varnish / fiberglass There are several methods that I have successfully used. One is to simply use a razor blade and lift the old varnish off the gel coat. This generally works well on flat surfaces, not well at all if the varnish is on non-skid surfaces. A second method is to use a heat gun. One must be more careful, but this method is very quick, effective, and safe if used carefully. A third method I have used with excellent results is to apply a varnish remover to the dried varnish and remove with a scraper. A product called SOY.Gel has produced excellent results while at the same time being relatively safe to use and nondamaging to the gel coat. Jerry -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+jerry.kovach=neustar.biz(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+jerry.kovach=neustar.biz@mailman.xmissi on.com]On Behalf Of Craig F. Honshell Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 5:03 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: old varnish / fiberglass Anyone know a way to remove old, dried varnish from fiberglass w/out damaging the fiberglass? I know acetone would be good for freshly applied clean-up, but am thinking it would require something harsher to cut the old gunk. Thanks! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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New Mailing List Member
by lester＠snowcrest.net 25 Jun '05

25 Jun '05

Hi, all. Checking in from Mt. Shasta. Have "Sirius" currently under construction, which will replace our Kent Ranger 20 we had for 20+ years. We downsized as getting the Ranger mast up, rigged and ready to go was becoming a bit more difficult as time went on--which ended up limiting our getting out on the water. Used it mostly in So.Oregon at Howard Prairie Lake, especially as Mike worked there summers for a good number of years. His sailing experience started in 1953 in SF Bay in a variety of boats. We built two SF Bay Pelicans in our garage, and sailed them before we got the Ranger. Also built a number of dories, a drift boat, rowing boat, etc. My main sailing experience was with the Pelicans and the Ranger. Now we're both seriously retired, we're expecting the M15 will get us into a lot of lakes we passed up with the Ranger, especially going back to northern Idaho/Western Montana lakes we've never tried. So, getting everything ready to go - got the Honda 2hp long shaft, the Porta-Potty, etc. Been reading all the archives topics, but sure there will be some questions coming up - you can bet we'll be sure to ask! Mike & Paula Lester --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using SnowCrest WebMail. http://www.snowcrest.net

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40 knots & 3 foot seas...
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 24 Jun '05

24 Jun '05

Hi All, Quick note as I pry myself out of Tipperary to come to the big city (Grants Pass, Oregon). I've been staying at a resort at Howard Prairie lake in Southern Oregon. The first day I got there, and as I was setting up to launch, David Woods (Monty Line art - on the Photo Site) came by introduced himself, gave me a few words of encouragement and took his M-15 out for the afternoon. The offer to go sailing on his M-15 was almost to much, but I finally did get Tipperary in the water. I was to hit several NW Lakes, but other things are getting in the way, so I've booked a 30 day, in the water stay at the lake, will go back to San Francisco in a few days (six - hour drive) and then back here, in July... Setting up Tipperary for the first time was a bit of a challenge. I found several small items that needed attention before I could put her in the water. I added a jib downhaul, a Davis Tiller Tamer and a boom topping lift. I may have lost count, but I believe it was mast up five times before I was satisfied there were enough lines running smooth and free to do the job. That initiation gave me a benchmark of about two and a half hours to beat the next time I prepare her for a launch (I believe I can beat that!) I spent the first day sailing with crew; Mark, my Nephew had never been on a sailboat so couldn't critique or make fun when I made mistakes. He was however, very helpful while we spent a few hours getting used to Tipperary. I began to regain my sailing confidence as I became confident in Tipperary's abilities. We practiced quite a lot and finished the first day learning about the squirt in the eye from raising the centerboard. Amazingly enough that was the only surprise. The following days I have been on my own to single hand Tipperary. Howard Prairie Lake in Southern Oregon is one of Oregon's Premier sailing lakes. About 10:00 the wind begins to blow and almost daily continues to last until 6:00 in the evening. The winds frequently reach 20 knots and blow from one end to the other of the 1 X 6 mile Lake. (2 days before I got there, the lake had 40 knot winds and 3 foot seas!) I typically sail from 11:00 to 1:00. Take a break, have lunch at the resort, a short nap on the V-berth, and sail the afternoon, from 3:00 to 6:00. I've spent the last four days doing pretty much the same. I'll keep in touch... Bill M-17 Tipperary SanFrancisco & Beyond

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What are the dimensions of a 155 genoa?
by nbundek 23 Jun '05

23 Jun '05

Does anyone know the I and J of M15's jib? Norm M15 #172

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Towing an M-15
by LUDLOWD2＠aol.com 23 Jun '05

23 Jun '05

I'm thinking about replacing my old F150 pickup with a small SUV like the Honda CRV (towing capacity 1500#) Has anyone had any experience using small SUV's to tow/launch their M-15? Also its teak time. I'm sooo confused. Cetol, Teak oil? what to use? Thanks in advamce for the input Don

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almost ready: checklist, did I miss anything?
by B. Mayer 23 Jun '05

23 Jun '05

1) Hitch is on the car 2) new tires on the trailer plus a new spare 3) wheel bearings repacked 4) tongue weight checked 5) boat tied securely down 6) new clutch on car, new brakes 7) trailer lights work 8) new safety chains (actually cables) on trailer 9) registration tabs on the trailer Did I miss anything? I still have to even the air pressure in the car tires, and put the mast on the holder (but can't do that until it is out of the garage.) I have to register the boat in Washington (I think, never got an answer to that.) Any of you M15 owners who can tell me if I do? It is going to stay there, not come back to California. And once I get there, need to get a new winch cable and check the lines to see what needs replacing. Bobbie

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Re: M_Boats: Gel Coat Matching
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 23 Jun '05

23 Jun '05

In a message dated 4/16/2005 1:23:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, bobo4u(a)qwest.net writes: I'm a little concerned that the gelcoat may not stick to the epoxy-based repair. Hi Bob Not that I'm an expert! However, Don Casey's book "Hull & Deck Repair" says dont use an epoxy if the finish is going to be gelcoat. Instead use a polyester resin as gelcoat will not bond well with Epoxy. My plan is to fillet the holes I'm making using Epoxy thickened with colloidal Silica and then seal the ladder & mount in a bed of polysulfide. For the holes left from the previous mount, I'll fill them with Fiberglass and polyester resin and cap them off with gelcoat. Don Casey says it's best to let a woman approve the gelcoat color match. Or if that's not possible, develop a "good enough" attitude. I got West System Epoxy "how to" manual today. It covers much of what Don Casey says as well as goes into more on the Epoxy, while Don's book deals with much more, such as sealants and polyester resins. Both books age worth buying. Bill M-17 "Tipperary"

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Salt Lake City [owners?]
by Justin L. 23 Jun '05

23 Jun '05

Are there any owners in Salt Lake City (or Utah) that would be willing to let me look at their late model 15 or 17. I am very interested in a 15, and would like to see one. Thank you, Justin Lyons __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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