April 2004 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Length of boat & trailer?
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 16 Apr '04

16 Apr '04

What is the total length of the M-15 and the M-17 as they sit on the trailer? I would imagine it will depend upon how much the mast sticks out past the stern. Maybe it's best to ask how much garage length, parking the boat & trailer straight in, do I need to plan on for either boat? Bill

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Re: M_Boats: new pics
by bownez＠juno.com 16 Apr '04

16 Apr '04

Tod, I've seen FAR worse rat-nests. They are usually in computer server rooms. Buy your tie wraps by the hundreds. Liked your pics. Bones ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

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RE: M_Boats: FW: Re: Introduction
by bownez＠juno.com 16 Apr '04

16 Apr '04

Rick and Tom, I looked at an Ariel as well when I was making a boating choise. I did purchase a 76 M17 which I sailed for 5 years before finding my 79 M23. I still have both. I love my M17 and hope to use her this season to explore northern Minnesota lakes. The M23 is my weekend live aboard, and a truly delightful sailboat. Welcome to our group. Bones ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

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new pics
by htmills＠bright.net 15 Apr '04

15 Apr '04

A few pics, none sailing yet; mostly detail stuff: Busca's new lettering applied last year: http://www.bright.net/~htmills/BuscaNewLettering.jpg Under the cockpit: http://www.bright.net/~htmills/BuscaUnderCockpit.jpg http://www.bright.net/~htmills/BuscaUnderPortCockpit.jpg http://www.bright.net/~htmills/BuscaUnderStbdCockpit.jpg http://www.bright.net/~htmills/BuscaUnderStbdCoaming.jpg This will show you why I am re-wiring: http://www.bright.net/~htmills/BuscaRatsNest.jpg Some pics of the servo-pendulum windvane in progress: This shows it overall with the oar folded up so it would be out of the water when not in use. The right side of the pic will be the forward side: http://www.bright.net/~htmills/wvOverallFolded.jpg A closer shot of the part that holds the "oar" http://www.bright.net/~htmills/wvOarCarrier.jpg A closer shot of the bevel gears: http://www.bright.net/~htmills/wvGears.jpg The vane itself: http://www.bright.net/~htmills/wvVane.jpg The mast that the vane will mount on: http://www.bright.net/~htmills/wvMast.jpg Tod

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Re: M_Boats: Nor'Sea Fest Saturday..Montgomerys welcome!
by chbenneck＠juno.com 15 Apr '04

15 Apr '04

Hi Bob, Thanks for the invitation. I'd love to come but can't meet the ransom requirements that the airlines are now demanding to ferry you from A to B. Great idea. Hope its hugely successful. Connie Benneck M15 #400

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Nor'Sea Fest, Montgomerys welcome
by Bob 15 Apr '04

15 Apr '04

Hi Just a reminder that this Saturday, April 17 we are having our annual Nor'Sea Fest at the Oakland Yacht Club. All Lyle C. Hess boats are welcome. We have a 'boat crawl' at 1:00 PM and dinner at the Yacht Club around 6-7. At the same time the Pacific Sail Expo Boatshow is happening now and thru the weekend at Jack London Square. (about 3 miles away) Come and join us in toasting Lyle Hess and his timeless designs. Fair winds Bob Eeg (949) 489-8227

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sound proof the mast
by MC 15 Apr '04

15 Apr '04

I found a quick and cheap way to provide sound deadening the mast, at Wal Mart they have some closed cell swim noodles, they are exactly the right size and slide in with the new mast wiring through the center. six feet long for $1.88

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Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 14, Issue 10
by Rick Langer 15 Apr '04

15 Apr '04

Tom, It was great to see your Ariel and reminisce about what a great boat I had. My Ariel "Nimue' " (the Lady of the Lake who enticed Merlin) is hull #222. She is fast, stable and comfortable. I miss having her and I ached a little going to those websites. I need a boat. This is my second season without her, but I don't need that yacht club routine, Spring/Autumn hauling, packing the truck with tools and everything to work on the boat, traveling an hour just to make sure sell didn't sink (20 times a season) and having to pay many $$$$ to do it. A guy at my club use to say, "Sailing is like standing in a cold shower ripping up twenty dollar bills.". How was the transition of going from the Ariel to the Montgomery? What do you wish the Montgomery had that the Ariel had? I noticed that Osprey II appeared to be in a slip for the season. Do you feel that trailering her is difficult? Also, is the traveler, mounted is the center of the cockpit, a problem? Thanks, Rick Langer Hudson River p.s. This is off the subject, but what is that device mounted to the dock in the third photo of Osprey II? ----- > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 19:13:46 -0500 > From: "Thomas Howe" <Thomas(a)ThomasHoweOnline.com> > Subject: RE: M_Boats: FW: Re: Introduction > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <ELENIICJJMGPIKPCLJEKCEHDCEAA.Thomas(a)ThomasHoweOnline.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Rick, great to have you aboard. I own both an Ariel and a Montgomery 17, and > between them It is hard to pick a better boat. I would say that the ease of > use, the solid feel, the portability of the Montgomery puts it ahead by a > nose. Both Lyle Hess and Carl Alberg were masters, and we are blessed to be > enjoying the fruits of their brainpower. > To view my Ariel, #131, Sea Smoke, you can go to the Ariel website run by > Bill Phelon > http://www.pearsonariel.org/discussion/showthread.php?s=51d48dab91600b034a08 > 7042af12806d&threadid=650 in the bulletin boards, or you can go to > http://www.geocities.com/sailapearson/ and see her. For my M-17 Osprey II, > check out the Boat Pics at MSOG.org http://msog.org/ . Feel free to contact > me off list if you would like more info. Fair winds, Thomas Howe > > > ---Thomas Howe > ---Your Real Estate Consultant For Life! > ---785-550-1169 > ---Mailto:Thomas@TEHowe.com > ---www.ThomasHoweOnline.com > ---Reece & Nichols, ACRES Realtors > O > --------(\ ---------- > ~ (\ ~ ~ ~ ~ > ~ ~ ~ ~ (\ ~ ~ ~ ~ > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >

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Re: M_Boats: Re: Montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 14, Issue 10
by chbenneck＠juno.com 15 Apr '04

15 Apr '04

Hi Rick, Further ramblings; With an M15 you have simplicity; ease of setup; and trailerability with a small car. I haul mine with a VW VR6 Jetta wagon. With an M17 you probably need a pickup or SUV. Instead of living on board, as we did before, we now head for places like Lake Champlain and stay at a B&B. The M15 is used for day sailing; then drop the hook; set up the Bimini; and enjoy a leisurely lunch. Later after a snooze or a swim, hoist sail and head home again. My Admirable finds this sailing life far simpler and less strenuous than living on board our 29' T-L; cooking / cleaning up / preparing for the weekend / hauling and stowing everything, not to forget travel time to the shore and home again on a Sunday night. It's been reduced to utmost simplicity: sail and enjoy. Another great advantage is you are not tied to one spot. Want to sail the Chesapeake? It's a few hours drive and you are there; in the other direction try Maine - coast or lakes. Or how about the North Channel of Lake Huron? With a trailerable boat you can get to anywhere you want. With a boat this size, a basket full of boat toys is $100! On bigger boats keep adding zeros to that number! One of the group, out on the West Coast has done extensive cruises on the Inside Passage for several weeks at a time, living, cooking and sleeping on an M15. He has written up excellent reports on equipment / stowage / water / fuel / and general How-To know-how. If you go to the archives look for Scott Grometer's reports. The question of an M17 or an M15 is one you have to decide for yourself. The M17 is a considerably larger boat with significantly greater volume, but, ..............it is more work to step the mast and get ready to sail. The M15, being smaller, is less complicated to set up, but then you are water camping.......... I see you are somewhere on the Hudson River. I'm located just outside Hartford, CT so if you would like to see an M15 I'd be glad to show you mine. Connie

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Nor'Sea Fest Saturday..Montgomerys welcome!
by Bob 15 Apr '04

15 Apr '04

Hi Just a reminder that this Saturday, April 17 we are having our annual Nor'Sea Fest at the Oakland Yacht Club. All Lyle C. Hess boats are welcome. We have a 'boat crawl' at 1:00 PM and dinner at the Yacht Club around 6-7. At the same time the Pacific Sail Expo Boatshow is happening now and thru the weekend at Jack London Square. (about 3 miles away) Come and join us in toasting Lyle Hess and his timeless designs. Fair winds Bob Eeg (949) 489-8227

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