November 2004 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Re: M_Boats: Fixed keel
by RINALDO698＠aol.com 08 Nov '04

08 Nov '04

Bob, I have no pictures of Woodstock, since I've lost my photo album from my Hawaii times. I only had one picture of her looking down on her in her skip at the Esplanade Condos in Hawaii Kai, and I had an orange tarp draped over boom in that picture! At that point I had no idea they all weren't made with the fixed keel. I am trying to find some pictures through some people that were living over there. I'll post if I find any. Best wishes, Doug Rinaldo

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replacing the center board pennant
by Richard Cottrell 08 Nov '04

08 Nov '04

My Montgomery 15 needs to have the center board pennant replaced. I've read the archives but still have some questions. 1) Does the pin have to be removed? 2) Does the board have to be completely removed from the boat? 3) Is it alot easier taking the boat to a boat yard relative to raising the boat on blocks yourself and replacing the pennant? 4) Do you need assistance raising and lowering the board? Thank you, Rich Cottrell

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Re: M_Boats: Little Squirt/Pendant plate
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 08 Nov '04

08 Nov '04

Bones, Found the deck bushing. Innexpensive fix. Thanks, Bill

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Re: M_Boats: Fixed keel
by Rotortom2＠aol.com 08 Nov '04

08 Nov '04

I just want to thank Jerry and Bob for continuing to be a part of our M-boat family. We have some of the best little boats out there, and to have the support and participation of the "Original Guys" only adds to our pride. Tom Woodworth M-17 #330 "Wild Hare"

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Re: M_Boats: Little Squirt/Pendant plate
by bownez＠juno.com 08 Nov '04

08 Nov '04

Hi Bill, and Bill, and listers, I cannot take a pic of my pendant plate on my M17 due to the fact that she is 145 miles away and slumbering for the winter. But, if you look at the 2004 West Marine catalog, page 1055, it looks like item #WR3114, called a Ronstan deck bushing. Yep, we could be looking to fix a problem that does exist Bill! Later, Bones ________________________________________________________________ Juno Platinum $9.95. Juno SpeedBand $14.95. Sign up for Juno Today at http://www.juno.com! Look for special offers at Best Buy stores.

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Re: M_Boats: Fixed keel
by RINALDO698＠aol.com 08 Nov '04

08 Nov '04

Hello Jerry! Yes! Someone said you only made a few with the fixed keel? I lived in a tent in a friend's backyrd for 6 months while I was looking for the "right" boat until one day I stopped by McWayne and there it was up on a cradle getting her keel attached! I climbed up and that was all she wrote! I just loved that boat. It toatally kicked butt even in the rough waters there. i always felt the molded lapstake hull was the only reason the boat put up with the beatings I put her through! lol Thanks for making her and giving me the experience. You rock! Doug Rinaldo

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Fixed keel
by RINALDO698＠aol.com 08 Nov '04

08 Nov '04

Hello to list! I've just been observing since I subscribed to this list. I subscribed because I owned an M-17 years ago. I bought her at McWayne Marine in Honolulu in 1976 and lived on her for almost 2 years there. I named her Woodstock, after the bird in the Snoopy cartoons. I had learned to sail hanging out with a friend who owned a documented motorsailer named Snoopy, and since I was always tagging along with him, it was the perfect name for her. I had so many wonderful times on her I wouldn't even know where to start talking story about her! I now own a Com-Pac16 in East TN. My questions are, when did Jerry Montgomery start building these wonderful boats and how many were fitted with a fixed keel? Woodstock had a fixed keel on her and was an awsome little boat. Thanks, Doug Rinaldo

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Re: M_Boats: furling genny - reefing cdi
by Steve R. 08 Nov '04

08 Nov '04

This may be a Jerry question. In the SCA interview, Jerry mentioned that the biggest difference between the M-15 and M-17 is the masthead rig. Or words to that effect. My home lake is often devoid of wind during the summer. A genoa would improve things. A genoa with a masthead rig would seem to be a greater improvement. I assume the difference in cost between the two genoa sizes would be slight. I have been thinking about new rigging. I do not think a longer forestay would be that costly. What would be needed to go with a masthead rig, aside from the top casting? Would a second set of shrouds be enough? Are spreaders needed? (Dwyermast.com lists the components on their website for the DM-4 profile.) Could the lower ends attach to the existing hull plates or would a second set be required? Anyone have thought or suggestions? steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY

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RE: M_Boats: 1981 Montgomery 17 for sale
by RandyG 07 Nov '04

07 Nov '04

Friends, A friend forwarded this add to me a few day back when it first appeared on the trailersailor.com web. My wife and I are in the market for a 17 and so I contacted the owner regarding. The owner, Bill Colgan, forwarded to me a number of pictures that I have copied over to http://sailing.gravesfam.us . You'll see a link on the left side of the page for "Trailer Sailor M-17 for Sale". This boat is not going to work out for my wife and I but let me share what I know about his boat. She is a 1981 4 berth model, w/FF2 furler, Mercury 5 hp short-shaft, and Dilly small wheel galvanized trailer. Bill believes she is hull # 334. She is the newer style deck with wet locker. She has an area of fiberglass damage where the centerboard winch mounts on the bridge deck. The starboard locker bottom has been cut out to allow access to the interior. The fixed motor mount has been lowered to accommodate the 5 hp short-shaft. And there is concern that the top layer of the cockpit sole has separated. The description Bill gives is that while solid, it feels like walking on linoleum that has separated from the sub-floor. The interior looks very clean and original. If we where closer and could see the boat we would give it more careful consideration. There are many good chrematistics with this boat as you note in the pictures. Bill is a very nice guy and would be happy to answer any questions you have. His phone number is listed with the add on the trailer sailor classified section. Randy Graves M15 #407 ________________________________ From: montgomery_boats-bounces+randyg=cite.nic.edu(a)mailman.xmission.com on behalf of ddaystrom(a)comcast.net Sent: Sat 11/6/2004 8:00 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: 1981 Montgomery 17 for sale 1981 Montgomery 17 for sale on Trailersailor.com classified ads. Boat is located in Forth Worth, Texas, asking price is $4,500. -alw ad from trailersailor.com Location of boat: fort worth, TX What year did the owner buy this boat: 2001 Standard features of the Montgomery 17: Great Lyle Hess designed trailer sailer. Shoal keel with steel centerboard. See www.msog.org for full details, specifications. Extra gear included: Flexible Furler, with 135 genoa. Cruising Direct genoa new in 2001. Original main, seems ok. 5hp Mercury, great condition. Improvements to the hull, deck, rigging, engine, or interior: Boat has a kick up rudder which is a very desirable feature. General condition and any additional information: Boat is in good condition, needs some cleaning, but is ready to sail. Botton was painted spring of 2004. Price $4,500 US _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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1981 Montgomery 17 for sale
by ddaystrom＠comcast.net 07 Nov '04

07 Nov '04

M17 for sale on trailorsailor.com classified ads. - alw Location of boat: fort worth, TX What year did the owner buy this boat: 2001 Standard features of the Montgomery 17: Great Lyle Hess designed trailer sailer. Shoal keel with steel centerboard. See www.msog.org for full details, specifications. Extra gear included: Flexible Furler, with 135 genoa. Cruising Direct genoa new in 2001. Original main, seems ok. 5hp Mercury, great condition. Improvements to the hull, deck, rigging, engine, or interior: Boat has a kick up rudder which is a very desirable feature. General condition and any additional information: Boat is in good condition, needs some cleaning, but is ready to sail. Botton was painted spring of 2004. Price $4,500 US

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