November 2004 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Keel access from inside M15
by nbundek 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

I took my new 23 year old M15 (hull 172) apart screw by screw to see if there was any damage to screws and places that cannot be seen. I also refinished the teak. I only found a small area of damage under the anchor plate. I'm amazed at how well the M15 has held up over the years. While checking every nook and cranny, I noticed that the bilge is not closed. Water could go into the trunk with the ballast, and I'm assuming that water would go to the bottom along with the ballast. I don't think all of it could be pumped out since there are metal strip packed in there. I could reach several pieces and pulled them out for inspection. I noticed that the metal laying in the trunk is rusted. Has anyone glassed over this ballast opening? If glassed with a well of sorts, this could be a collection point for bilge water in order to be pumped out. Does anyone know if this should be glassed in to prevent water from going into the trunk? Also, I have large sheets of hard Styrofoam placed all around under the cockpit. It is stuffed so tight that there is no storage space in the cockpit hatches. Is this normal, or was the past boat owner overly flotation conscious? I guess I'm asking if the Monty will float without the extra Styrofoam? Norm Ventura CA

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Re: M_Boats: MSOG PICTURES...
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

Hi Bob, Next time I see you, I'll do a series of shots and we'll put together an album for the site. I need more M-15's Bill

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Re: M_Boats: track lube
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

Tod, Questions on the slugs. How did you determine where slug placement should be? and... Is there any noiticeable distortion in the sail? Bill again.

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Re: M_Boats: MSOG PICTURES...
by bobjudy2＠comcast.net 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

Good job, Bill. I'll see if I can find a picture for the site. Bob M15 #208 > Hi all, > You will remember the site I started, called Billamicasr.funtigo.com. I know > some of you have tried to access that site and found it no longer exists. I > was waiting for approval from "management" to change the site name and now it's > official! > Some of you in the group suggested to me... the MSOG needed a way to show > off the members boats, have a good section on history, and be a place where > members could send their photos and have them published. With the help of each > and every one of you this will happen. > The MSOG has a new photo site... www.MSOG.funtigo.com I have donated the site > to the MSOG. All of the bills of the site are paid untill late 2005. This > means the site belongs to all of us. I am accepting Stewardship of the site for > the time being and will continue to be the person to send photographs and > information to. I hope in the future, there will be someone who will take the > site > and continue on, with the efforts that have already been started. > Doug King will be linking the photo site to the MSOG mother site... > www.MSOG.org. This will bring alot of attention to our boats and the Montgomery > line. > I am hopeing in the future, the expenses of the site will come from commercial > donations from companies mentioned on the site. When this occurs, there will > be no need for member donations to keep it up and running. > Bear in mind, I'm a working stiff like lots of others in the group. This > means the site will always be under construction and there will be times I > cannot > work on the site as other matters are taking my time. > The suggestion box for the photo site... Billamicasr(a)aol.com Email me with > questions, suggestions and anything else you'ld care to have off list. > My first question... Should we leave the Nor'sea 27 photo Albums? After all, > there made by Montgomery Boats. Or is that, the other way around? > Bill M-17 "Tipperary" > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: Gennaker
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

Hi Gary, I wish you had a picture also... When you get someone to take pictures, please ask them to set the camera shot dimension to somewhere around 1280 X 960 or larger. If they do shots any smaller it will be impossible for you to get a good 8 X 10 print without the photo being grainy. And if you get good shots, you'll want to put them on the MSOG photo site. Bill M-17 "Tipperary"

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Re: M_Boats: track lube
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

Hi Tod, I used it on the bolt rope. Same amazing results. Strange thing to me is it doesn't feel or appear wet or messy... just slippery. Isn't science wonderful (had to throw that in) Bill M-17 "Tipperary"

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Sticky Centerboard fix?
by Saltm17＠aol.com 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

For along time, the centerboard was always hanging up in the trunk after being on the trailer. After trying a number of things to keep it from sticking and to un-stick it without much success, I finally tried a very simple solution....spray some WD40 into the trunk. It seems to work very well, the board hasn't hung up in the last 4 launches. John Edwards Miss T M17 # 372

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Gennaker
by Richard Cottrell 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

Hi Gary: I purchased my Gennaker at Hogin Sails in early '97 for $ 400.. It's "star shaped" so one is able to go to weather a little better. It's supposed to be 144 sf of sail area. It's made of 1 1/4 ounce material - "deep purple and light blue". The tack is attached to a down haul which is setup the same as the jib down haul (same location), and runs back to the cockpit. The tack can be raised and lowered the same as raising and lowering the head with the halyard, which also runs back to the cockpit. The bow pulpit might get in the way when you're going to weather or tacking while flying gennaker from the spinnaker halyard. The length of the luff is a little less than the length of the forestay. If you fly it from the masthead the the tack will most likely always be above the bow pulpit. I would not recommend attaching the tack to the bow pulpit. How are you going to get the gennaker back to the cabin while singlehanded? I attach the tack of the gennaker to the down haul -forward of the bow pulpit. In heavier airs the luff will become rigid and you don't have to worry. It will fly similar to a spinnaker. It will want to fly high like a kite and to the lee. Lot's of fun!! The hassle is in the tacking because the sheets run forward of and around the forestay That's why I like to fly it on a long reach. I like to use it in winds up to 7 or so knots. To douse it, all I do is ease out on the halyard, down haul, and (1/8" sheets and put it below. It only takes a minute. I then raise the jib. The rig is not setup for flying gennakers from the masthead. I fly it from the masthead only in light air. It flys just as well from the spinnaker halyard. I wish I had a picture. Rich Cottrell

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track lube
by htmills＠bright.net 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

Last year I noticed the slugs on Busca's main just weren't sliding very well, so this summer I got some of that sail track lube. Wow, what an amazing difference; much more than I ever would have expected. Tod M17 #408 BuscaBrisas

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Additions
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 10 Nov '04

10 Nov '04

Hi All, I've added a few pics to the site. If you've ever wondered what the following people look like... Go to the site and you'll find their pictures in an area called MSOG Boats & Owners: Charles Fowlkes, Montana - Tom Wilkinson, Washington - Randy Graves, Idaho - Doug Kelch, Virginia - Todd Mills, Ohio - John Edwards, South Carolina - John Martin, Washington - Mark & Roberta Devorshak - Larry Yake, WA - Al Williams, Maryland - Fred & Lilly Shelley, Arizona. The list is beginning to grow. Now I need help... More boats, more owners! Come on folks... show off the boat. Email me and I'll tell you what I need. Regards, Bill Billamicasr.funtigo.com

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