November 2004 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Re: M_Boats: Web Pictures
by LUDLOWD2＠aol.com 12 Nov '04

12 Nov '04

Bill I looked over your site at lunch. Great photo's. I would like to get a few of Sweet Dream under sail one day. I particularly like the Dana and Flicka. A shame they won't build any more Flicka's without having five on backorder. There's another Crelock boat I like, the Orion. Bet you can find one around SF bay. Looks like a classy Island Packet. Keep up the good work Don

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Re: M_Boats: track lube
by Rotortom2＠aol.com 12 Nov '04

12 Nov '04

I agree, simple is better. I have been using "Sailkote"high performance dry lubricant for a couple of years now, and It does an excellent job. It is available at West Marine. Tom Woodworth M-17 "Wild Hare"

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RE: M_Boats: track lube
by Shawn Boles 12 Nov '04

12 Nov '04

I agree with Bill. I switched to slugs with a custom slot closure ( done in conjunction with interior halyards) and regret it. Simple is best. - Shawn Boles M17 grey mist -----Original Message----- From: William B. Riker [mailto:wriker@mindspring.com] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 5:18 PM To: 'Craig F. Honshell'; 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: RE: M_Boats: track lube Just for a contrasting opinion, I think you're all nuts! For me, the boltrope is easier to deal with than slugs. The original sail that came with Storm Petrel had slugs, but I ordered my new main (5 years old now) without them and haven't looked back. In the spring, a shot of silicone spray in the mast groove keeps the boltrope sliding freely all season, and I don't need a mechanism to keep the sail from dropping out of the slot. I can let go of the halyard to tend to something else and the sail stays put. Of course, it's also more aerodynamic. The boltrope is a strong, simple and secure system. Bill Riker M15 #184 Storm Petrel -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com@mailman.xmission. com] On Behalf Of Craig F. Honshell Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 10:26 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: track lube I had such a mod made this past spring (close the old throat, open a new, lower throat) . . . However, I had my groove opened right above where the boom rests when the downhaul is cinched . . . I have a 1/4" quick-release stop-pin that runs across the groove once the slugs are fed into place . . . I can flake the sail without allowing the slugs to drop out of the groove . . . This also works pretty well . . . Perhaps not as tidy as Busca's mod . . . ----- Original Message ----- From: htmills(a)bright.net To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 10:18 PM Subject: track lube Bill, Rod, the previous owner, had the following solution: He closed up the original spread section of the groove and opened up a new one BELOW the normal operating position of the boom. When setting up, I feed the slugs all in and then the gooseneck slide and raise it up towards its normal operating position. A stop (slug w/ thumbscrew) below the gooseneck keeps it from falling down. A line to the mast foot holds the boom from raising when the sail is hoisted. Sounds complicated but it works pretty well. I'll get the measurements for you hopefully by the weekend. Tod _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: track lube
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 12 Nov '04

12 Nov '04

Hi Bill Absolutely right and true on all points!. Except for the "your all nuts" part. I'm still pondering that one... Bill

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Re: M_Boats: Web Pictures
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

Fred, It took me a minute to figure out the Post Office. I like you're nickname much better than if someone did that to me You know... llib

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Re: M_Boats: track lube
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

Hi Fred, Thanks for the mast gate site. As far as I know mast gates are made almost one set at a time because of the limited sales potential of the completed product, seeing as how every boat uses a different configuration. So the first step would be design. Then finding someone who'll make them. And, the installation could be as easy as "do-it-youself". I personally like mast gates. I used them on the Cat 22 and it made deployment of the main one slick easy motion. By design gates are best to be used on boats stored mast up. In the water or on the hard. If used on a trailer sailer the gate would have to be opened and closed twice on every outing. Me thinks that wouldn't be too good on the attachment holes in the mast... over time. If it's feasible to make and install gates on Tipperary's mast. That's what I'll end up doing as she'll be stored on the hard, mast up. With exception of the few distant outing we'll likely take. I wonder... Does anyone kow if the masts have changed over the years? Same brand? Same model Number? Bill

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Web Pictures
by Derfsails＠aol.com 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

Thanks Bill, for putting the pictures on line. It used to be that I had to go to the Post Office to find my picture. Fred (aka derf)

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Re: M_Boats: track lube
by Frederick M Berthrong 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

FYI, anyone interested, here is a site with some good info re mast gates. http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/2358/f_rigging_tips/f07.html Fred Berthrong M-17 #300 "Dulce" On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:07:14 -0600 "Wayne Yeargain" <saltydog(a)ev1.net> writes: > Hi Tod > I too would be intrested in knowing if you installed a gate, if so > could you > post the details?. > Currently I'm using a sail stop but would like to change to a gate, > any > information would be appreciated. > Wayne M17 #204 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <BILLAMICASR(a)aol.com> > To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:09 PM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: track lube > > > > Tod, > > My main is at the sail shop having the second set of reef points > installed > > (SF-Bay Winds). > > So, there's no hurry, but if you could do a measurement it would > be > > wonderful. > > I agree on the slugs. So much easier to deal with. > > Did you put a gate or a stop at the bottom so you can flake the > sail? > > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >

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Links to the photo site
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

Reading my Email and just informed the MSOG Photo web site is now linked from www.MSOG.org. Both in the Really Good Stuff section AND on the Home Page!!! Many thanks go to Doug King for making this link possible. So, it's now official. We've got a photo site!!! How Cool. Bill

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MSOG PICTURES...
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 11 Nov '04

11 Nov '04

Hi all, You will remember the site I started, called Billamicasr.funtigo.com. I know some of you have tried to access that site and found it no longer exists. I was waiting for approval from "management" to change the site name and now it's official! Some of you in the group suggested to me... the MSOG needed a way to show off the members boats, have a good section on history, and be a place where members could send their photos and have them published. With the help of each and every one of you this will happen. The MSOG has a new photo site... www.MSOG.funtigo.com I have donated the site to the MSOG. All of the bills of the site are paid untill late 2005. This means the site belongs to all of us. I am accepting Stewardship of the site for the time being and will continue to be the person to send photographs and information to. I hope in the future, there will be someone who will take the site and continue on, with the efforts that have already been started. Doug King will be linking the photo site to the MSOG mother site... www.MSOG.org. This will bring alot of attention to our boats and the Montgomery line. I am hopeing in the future, the expenses of the site will come from commercial donations from companies mentioned on the site. When this occurs, there will be no need for member donations to keep it up and running. Bear in mind, I'm a working stiff like lots of others in the group. This means the site will always be under construction and there will be times I cannot work on the site as other matters are taking my time. The suggestion box for the photo site... Billamicasr(a)aol.com Email me with questions, suggestions and anything else you'ld care to have off list. My first question... Should we leave the Nor'sea 27 photo Albums? After all, there made by Montgomery Boats. Or is that, the other way around? Bill M-17 "Tipperary"

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