January 2004 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Re: M_Boats: Trailer Rebuild
by bownez＠juno.com 18 Jan '04

18 Jan '04

Hi Connie and listers, I rebuilt my M23 trailer summer before last. The stock Trailrite trailer needed new squarestock welded in, the winch support rebuilt, new coupler and master cylinder, brake lines, brakes, and paint. Sounds like a big project, but actually, the Trailrite is built from component pieces that were easily replaced. The brakes are drums, hydraulic, and the complete backing plates are available with shoes, wheel cylinders, springs, etc, all preloaded and bolt up. Very easy. For the M15 and M17, you will need to add the master cylinder/coupler, mine is an Atwood. I have it welded on. Then add the brake lines, also available as a kit. A local supply store, Pioneer Wheel, had everything I needed and in stock. Fellow M23er Theo also has refurbished his trailer in the same manner. PS, I used Rustoleum primer and paint, brush applied. Good Luck Bones in Mpls 1.6 degrees and frost on the windows ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

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Some M17 Questions
by Smith, Tom 17 Jan '04

17 Jan '04

Good morning fellow Montgomery owners. I recently purchased an M17 and have several questions, but none so pressing at this; when sailing the boat yesterday, I discovered that what the former owner said was true, namely that this particular M17 takes water in through the top of the CB trunk, where the CB pendent drops through. Even in what I consider pretty tame conditions (8-10 knots of wind and mild chop), a fair amount of water spouts up through the hole. When viewed from above, it certainly appeared if if the trunk was full to the top with water, which seemed odd to me, but maybe normal. I say that because the M15 cockpit actually drains through the trunk. The boat is a '75, and the cb works freely and was deployed yesterday. Simply stuffing a rag into the hole solves the problem, but I wondered if anyone else had experienced this phenomenon. Thanks. t Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar

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Re: M_Boats: Trailer Paint?
by Wilsometer＠aol.com 17 Jan '04

17 Jan '04

Connie, Giles, et al, Thank you for your input regarding Trailer paint. I think I might go the black Rustoleum route this time around. Now it's on to trailer brake rebuild. Ugh! Small boats are simple boats! Scott M15 #478 'bebe' Flicka (unnamed)

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Re: M_Boats: Re: montgomery rendezvous
by Larry Yake 17 Jan '04

17 Jan '04

Hi Gary, The San Juan Rendezvous will be in June, starting either the 5th or the 19th. I see that's not on your list of available times, but maybe we can get something together locally for a weekend or so. There's quite a few M boats in the Inland Northwest. Larry Yake Deer Park, Wa. On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 16:23:52 -0800 Gary M. Hyde <gmhyde1(a)mac.com> writes: > PNW M boaters: > Just cleaning up earlier email. > > I'd be very interested in getting together for a sail next summer, > or > to meet each other this spring. I'll be available in April and May; > > then in July thru end of sailing season (retirement is nice). > --Gary Hyde > M15 #235 'Vanilla' > N24 'Sailabration' > > On Saturday, October 25, 2003, at 08:46 AM, Derfsails(a)aol.com > wrote: > > > Hi Larry, > > > > I would like very much to participate in a Montgomery rendezvous > in > > the San Juan's next summer. We normally go up in June and spend > two or > > three months. When we had our 30, we would launch at Anacortes > because > > of the lifts, groceries, West Marine, trailer storage, and the > > extremely helpful people. However, with the 23 we could put in > just > > about anywhere that would be convenient for other sailors that > would > > be interested in getting together sometime over the summer. > > > > Maybe over this winter something could be set up that would allow > as > > many people to get together as possible. It would sure be nice to > put > > some faces and personalities with all the M-notes I've been > reading > > over the last year or two. > > > > Thanks for the response. > > > > Fred > > (derf) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > --Gary Hyde > M15 #235 'Vanilla' > N24 'Sailabration' > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >

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Re: montgomery rendezvous
by Derfsails＠aol.com 17 Jan '04

17 Jan '04

Hi Larry, I would like very much to participate in a Montgomery rendezvous in the San Juan's next summer. We normally go up in June and spend two or three months. When we had our 30, we would launch at Anacortes because of the lifts, groceries, West Marine, trailer storage, and the extremely helpful people. However, with the 23 we could put in just about anywhere that would be convenient for other sailors that would be interested in getting together sometime over the summer. Maybe over this winter something could be set up that would allow as many people to get together as possible. It would sure be nice to put some faces and personalities with all the M-notes I've been reading over the last year or two. Thanks for the response. Fred (derf)

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Re: M_Boats: Thank You to the list
by Wilsometer＠aol.com 16 Jan '04

16 Jan '04

In a message dated 1/16/04 8:41:48 AM, gordonallgrove(a)mindspring.com writes: >I know this is not mainstream for this list, with all the M15's, M17's, >& M23's but we finally got the 'Round Tuit' and had the photos developed of our little >Monty on a nearby lake last fall. There were one or two of You that asked to >see a photo of Coba' on the water when she was finally able - so it is attached (lost >those email addresses when our PC crashed). Gordon, Any Montgomery is mainstream for this list! I would love to see the photos, and I am sure others on the list would too! I did not get an attachment with your e-mail (perhaps they can be put up on the MSOG web site?). Scott

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M17 line drawings
by wayne yeargain 16 Jan '04

16 Jan '04

Jerry If you are still intrested I'd like to try to intregate your cad drawings with my system and complete any areas necessary to get a complete plan & elevation drawings. My boat is a '76 M17 and I can take measurements for items that are not on your drawings. Let me know what you think Contact me off line at saltydog(a)ev1.net Wayne

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Two questions
by Saltm17＠aol.com 14 Jan '04

14 Jan '04

I'm in the middle of writing a book about my trip last summer, and it turns out to be a daily series of decisions about what to include and what to leave out. I keep coming back to two basic questions that I could really use your help with. 1. What makes a sailing book really appeal to you? 2. What would you want to see in a book about a trailer-sailing trip? I plan to post this request on a few sites (Potters, San Juans and Montgomeries) and compile all the responses. Thanks for your help. John Edwards Miss T M17 # 372

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RE: M_Boats: M 15 sails
by volwar＠webtv.net 14 Jan '04

14 Jan '04

Hi Bill I'm interested in your sails. Do you have some idea as to what they may be worth? I live in Connecticut. We're iced in this time of the year, so I'm not in a hurry for the sails. Take all the time you need. Regards Warren

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Re: M_Boats: Motor for the 23
by bownez＠juno.com 13 Jan '04

13 Jan '04

Hi Jeff, Sorry to hear of the theft of your outboard, they are very easy to steal. My M23 came with a 95 Mariner 8hp extra long shaft 2 stroke with alternator and electric start. The motor seems perfect for the M23. It started immediately with a touch of a button, seemed to have plenty of power, and the noise level was acceptable. It does require mixing of oil and fuel. I used this motor for my first season with my 23. Last season, I tried my 85 Honda 10hp 4 stroke long shaft with alternator, manual start. The weight of both motors is actually quite close, around 78 lbs. The Honda is quieter, more powerful, has better gas economy, and starts in 2 to 3 pulls. I like the idea of using the cleaner 4 stroke. Either motor would do a fine job. Reading John Vigor's book, he estimates 4hp per ton of boat displacement, thus, our M23's would be looking for a 8hp auxiliary. I do miss the electric starting, very effortless. I know the newer 4 stroke Hondas are heavier than the older white and blue case model I have. Perhaps the Yamaha or other makes are lighter. Good luck! Bones ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

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