August 2002 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Re: M_Boats: Lights for a juiceless M15
by Conbert H Benneck 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

Hi Steve, I was at Lowes the other day looking for your 4 AH gel cell battery, but couldn't find one. I asked, but I just got referred to the garden tractor / mower area where they had garden tractor batteries. In what department at Lowes did you find your battery? Hiding under lilly pads? In washing machines? Help! Connie

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Re: M_Boats: Lights for a juiceless M15
by IDCLLC＠aol.com 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

In a message dated 8/29/02 8:46:57 PM Central Daylight Time, chbenneck(a)juno.com writes: > Hi Steve, > > I was at Lowes the other day looking for your 4 AH gel cell battery, but > couldn't find one. I asked, but I just got referred to the garden > tractor / mower area where they had garden tractor batteries. > Connie, It's a gel cell designed to power emergency lights that come on automatically when there's a power outage. Unfortunately, you may have to shop around to find a 12 volt these days-last time I checked, the technology had reverted to six volt setups. If the price and size are right, this should be no deterent. Buy two, bind them together with electrical tape if desired, and connect in series. If you have no luck, there is a plethera of web based battery providers that stock every imaginable size, and then some! A quick search should bring them to light. Incidentally, I sprang for a 3 stage Charge Pro 6 amp charger this spring, and love it. Very compact, very durable, even submersible! Best of all, it gives batteries just what they need, and should be money well spent in the long run. Good luck with your endeavor. Keep us informed on your progress! Steve Tyree, P-15 #2098 "Amy Ann"

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Re: M_Boats: Electric system
by Harvey Wilson 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

>>The original 17's had a hand pump with the water system option- I have a box of them left if you're interested. Don't know how much they are worth these days, but 10. plus shipping sounds good to me. Hi Jerry.. I could use one of thse water pumps myself. I rebuilt the old one, but it may not have been the correct kit. How much to send it to zip 30041 ?? Harvey/Ga M-17 Stargazer #294

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Re: M_Boats: Electric system
by Larry Yake 29 Aug '02

29 Aug '02

Jerry, I lost your e-mail address (along with all my personal M-boat archives) when I had some computer problems, so I'll have to do this "on-list". I assume you'll be including an invoice? Larry Yake P.O.Box 1375 Deer Park, Wa. 99006 On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 18:00:22 -0700 "Jerry Montgomery" <jmbn(a)innercite.com> writes: Hi Larry- I think you sent me your address, but I've lost it somehow. Would you send it again? I've got your pump packaged. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Yake To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 4:00 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Electric system Jerry, I'ld be interested in one of the hand pumps. Can't beat 10 bucks. How do I order? Larry yake On Fri, 16 Aug 2002 15:06:59 -0700 "Jerry Montgomery" <jmbn(a)innercite.com> writes: Hi- The original 17's had a hand pump with the water system option- I have a box of them left if you're interested. Don't know how much they are worth these days, but 10. plus shipping sounds good to me. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Nesbitt To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 6:06 PM Subject: M_Boats: Electric system I have a 1977 M-17 that needs electrical work and a fresh water system. I had to remove the old system years ago because of corrosion. Now I want to replace the systems and I am not sure how everything goes together. Does anyone know if the old M-17 had an electric pump that provided water to the sink? Thanks Bob Nesbitt Minneapolis "Pretty Tacky" Hull 266 Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

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2002 SCA Cruiser Challenge Top Ten List
by Bob Campbell 28 Aug '02

28 Aug '02

Commodore Judy & Dave Blumhorst, Josh & Anika Colvin, Potter Yachters, Small Craft Advisor Staff, and Monterey Peninsula Yacht Club, Thank you for organizing the premier small cruiser event. This year's SCA Cruiser Challenge was first class in every way. Here's my Top Ten List of things that made this year's SCA Cruiser challenge so terrific. 10. The turn-out was excellent. 9. The weather offered great variety for testing sailing skills. 8. The venue (Monterey, CA) was breathtaking. 7. The camaraderie was wonderful. 6. The dinner was fantastic! 5. The desserts were even better!! 4. Our hosts were gracious. 3. The seals stayed out of my boat. (This one's for you Josh & Anika) :-) 2. We didn't get a parking ticket! 1. THE SAILING WAS FUN!!! Can't wait 'til next year. Fair Winds. Bob Campbell Montgomery 17 #615 "Alina" Lodi, CA

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Re:Montgomery 23
by Derfsails＠aol.com 27 Aug '02

27 Aug '02

Hi Howard, Bob has promised me the M-23 will be ready for sea trials by September 16, 2002, at the latest. We can't wait to go for a test sail. Fred derf sails @aol.com

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tiller
by Richard Cottrell 27 Aug '02

27 Aug '02

What is the length and width of the M17 tiller? Rich Cottrell

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Re: M_Boats: Electric system
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 27 Aug '02

27 Aug '02

Congratulations to all the M-Boaters at the SCA Regatta! Way to Go. Do they have the location for 2003 selected as of this time? Again- a job well done by all. Go Sail-Have Fun. Gary O. M-17 # 316A Blue Goose (tryin to be a tall rig)

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Re: M_Boats: tilting up the Honda on the stock mount
by Steve R 27 Aug '02

27 Aug '02

Still no success in tilting the Honda. Moved it side-to-side and tried various transom angle settings. Twist it right, twist it left, twist a little, twist a lot. No go. Either the older M-15s have different motor mounts, or my 2001 model Honda is different. I know the bottom of the motor has changed - no impeller now, but I do not know if the top changed. I am thinking of bolting two short lengths of 4 inch aluminum channel to the mount, then bolting a hardwood board to the channel, thus pushing the motor back 4 inches and up maybe 2 inches. I think it will clear then. I will try it with some C-clamps first to see if it will work. Thanks for the Honda suggestions Connie and Tom and the sail information from Ken. Three cheers for all the Monty SCA Challenge sailors! Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY

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RE: M_Boats: Tiller extension
by Smith, Tom 27 Aug '02

27 Aug '02

The M15's short tiller is awkward with an extension in many situations. Thanks for doing the experiment and coming up with a 54 inch starting place. It would be a nice winter project to glue up and shape a new tiller with a rise similar to the stock J24 tiller... Tom Smith & Jane Van Winkle Sandpoint, Idaho M15-345, Chukar -----Original Message----- From: Conbert H Benneck [mailto:chbenneck@juno.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 8:13 AM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Tiller extension Hi John, Your comment about wanting to make a longer tiller for your M15 got me thinking too. My present set-up left a lot to be desired; even using the Forespar tiller extension. This worked - after a fashion - but the geometry was all wrong. You were trying to control the boat, sitting in the forward corner of the cockpit with the Forespar Tiller Extension to tiller connection, via an obtuse angle, which didn't give the control or the feel that I like. So, your comment about making a longer tiller had me grabbing a suitable piece of pine in my shop, and I built a new tiller extension, as a mock-up to try out the concept Part of my design involved length - the tiller end now is about 2 inches forward of the sail locker lid. The second change was to cut the aft end of my extension at a shallow angle, raising the front of the tiller by about 3 inches, to make it easier to reach and to hold. This is just a mock-up to test the idea. I fastened the tiller extension to the tiller with a length of bungee cord and tried it our yesterday. Initial reaction: Great improvment over the existing tiller. I can sit in the forward corner of the cockpit, and can easily hold the extended tiller with two fingers. Steering control is vastly improved through the longer lever arm of the extended tiller. Now you can make minute corrections to your course rather than sail in "S" bends, as was previously the case. Extending the tiller to about 54" in length, also gives you very excellent control when a gust hits; and I had enough gusts yesterday to give me a very good test of the idea. After my initial test voyage yesterday, the conclusion is that I want the longer tiller. The open question is how do I attatch the extension to the standard tiller so that it is easily removable. I've got some ideas and will play with those as a next step. I will also change the tiller angle to raise the forward end about another 1 to 2 inches: it makes for easier holding and sailing. You are not reaching down to your knees to hold the tiller. You, as I understood you, were going to make a new tiller to the length you required. I am going to go my route of having a tiller extension available to play with first, and then, after having lived with it for some time, maybe I too, will feel that a new long tiller with the proper height at the forward end will be the ultimate way to go. But even with my primative lash-up, it is a big step forward in sailing comfort, control, and feel. Connie M15 #400 LEPPO _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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