April 2002 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Re: M_Boats: Anchoring
by Conbert H Benneck 30 Apr '02

30 Apr '02

Hi Deena and Harvey, Last year I installed chocks at the bow of LEPPO. I did it by cutting down the toe rail to gain a flat surface; then added a teak block inboard of the toerail so that the cleat could be positioned and supported by both surfaces. The top of the chock is now about level with the old toe rail. The cleats were installed with backing plates under the deck, and with bolts / elastic stop nuts holding them in place. So far, they work fine. No improvements or modifications needed. Your anchor question is really a function of where you sail: what the bottom looks like; and what problems you may encounter. If you only sail at the same lakes, then your anchors can be optimized for the type of bottom you find there. If the lake bottom is soft mud, then a Danforth type works well, as will a Bruce. However, the moment you have weed (eel grass is the worst) then the Bruce is the anchor of choice. Why? Well, when the Danforth hit bottom and starts being pulled along the bottom, weeds will be picked up between the flukes and the anchor won't set, because the flukes can't reach their "dig-in" angle. The anchor just lies on the bottom holding nothing but heavy bundle of weed. You can tug on the rode and it will seem to be holding, but if a greater load is imposed, (wind speed increases) then you'll find yourself sliding slowly backwards through the rest of the anchored fleet. This is where a Bruce is superior. The Bruce will go down through the weed and grab bottom. If you are anchoring in a lake where there are tree roots, snags, rocks and other debris on the bottom, then you have to put a trip line on your anchor so that if it gets stuck you can pull it out backwards and retrieve it. If you don't, and loose an anchor, then this is another reason for carrying more than one! Go to your library and look up cruising books. Most will have a chapter on anchoring and anchoring techniques. To find out what the bottom is consult your nautical charts. They list the type of bottoms. The old way of determining what the bottom was like was with a sounding lead. This is what was used in the days before depthsounders. It is a lead weight with a hole in the bottom, and a long heaving line. Tallow is put in the hole, the lead line is dropped till it hits bottom, and when it is pulled back, you know the depth and you can see what sticks to the tallow: sand, grass; shells, pebbles; mud, etc. This is how the old timers determined what was "down there". Connie ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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Re: M_Boats: PAINTING THE HULL
by Conbert H Benneck 30 Apr '02

30 Apr '02

Hi Wayne, Painting your hull is no big deal. All the paint companies, International, Woolsey, Petit, etc. have detailed information about their products and how to apply them. Just visit your local WEST, or other boat supply store and pick up their brochures. It's mainly a matter of following instructions. I have used the two part epoxy paint system and the single component paint system. I find that the single component paint system is easier to use, because it keeps the remainder of the can useable for touch-ups and repainting. With the two component system, once you've mixed the two components, your working time is limited, and whatever you don't use will harden and is garbage. If you have an existing boot-top stripe, then just use 3Ms blue (fine line) masking tape, and repaint. There are specific boot top paints made, but they are primarily for salt water use. For your M17 you can use anything. If you are not in the water for the whole season, then you are not concerned with slim at the waterline....... Connie ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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Re: M_Boats: M-15 "Chimpanzee": First Sail
by Conbert H Benneck 30 Apr '02

30 Apr '02

Hi John, Thanks for that wonderful report on your M15 first sail experiences and impressions. May this just be the first of many more happy experiences to come. With all your great descriptions, maybe Bob Eeg will use you as his brochure writer for the new M15s! Have a great summer, and keep us posted on your M15 improvements and how they worked out. Connie ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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Re: M_Boats: Electrical power source?
by IDCLLC＠aol.com 30 Apr '02

30 Apr '02

Harvey, It's a Minn Kota Endura 42, 42# thrust. Typically we operate it on 3 (power settings forward range from 0-5). I usually use it less than 20 minutes per outing, from which the 6 amp charger does its bulk charging in about an hour. I haven't tried to deplete the U-1 battery because complete discharge is said to severely shorten a wet cell's life. Steve Tyree, P-15 Amy Ann

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Re: M_Boats: Tongue Weight
by s.mcclellan＠attbi.com 30 Apr '02

30 Apr '02

I am overwhelmed by curiosity as to what the heck this person is talking about. Thanks for sharing, willow. (?) > i am overwhelmed by the shear number of emails by one individual > and with regret wish to unsubscribe after years of being on the montgomery > site > how can this be done > please > thank you > willow > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Electrical power source?
by Harvey Wilson 30 Apr '02

30 Apr '02

Hi Harvey and Deena Iuse one of the West Marine portable power packs similiar to what you describe, but mine also has a 300 watt inverter for AC use as well. Xpower, by Statpower, methinks. A bit pricey, but it enables you to run regular power tools, start cars, has a flourescent light that'll last all weekend, and you can prolong the time by connecting another battery with the jumper cables. I use it instead of a battery on Stargazer. Also as backup power for a PC, or anything else under 300 watts. Regards Harvey/Ga M-17 Stargazer #294

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Re: M_Boats: Electrical power source?
by Harvey Wilson 30 Apr '02

30 Apr '02

Hi Steve.. What type trolling motor (thrust) do you have, and how long will the little battery power it ?? Harvey/Ga M-17 Stargazer #294

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M17 Galley Model
by Howard Audsley 30 Apr '02

30 Apr '02

Not that I intend to do anything about it, but does anyone know the location and size of the water tanks that came with the older galley model 17's. Mine had been stripped out. Apparently, someone had left some water in the tank, and over time, that became a green slimy mess, impossible to clean up. But as for the location, I'm guessing it was under the cockpit? Maybe a 10 or 15 gallon plastic tank? This is just as a point of reference in case I ever wanted to restore the boat to how it was when new. For short trips, I'm sticking with jugs. Howard

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PAINTING THE HULL
by wayne yeargain 30 Apr '02

30 Apr '02

Has anyone painted their hull, if so can you tell me anything about the problems involved. My boat came from the previous owner with the hull painted to within a few inches of the waterline (topsides) & I need to finish it. The waterline stripe & bottom need to be painted. Any ideas or suggestions (particularly about masking the waterline) are appreciated. I plan to trailer the boat, still I'm not sure if there is a antifouling paint that would stand up to trailering, or whether I should just use the same type paint as used on the top. My only option for applying pain is with a brush. Regards Wayne M17 #204 Intrepid

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Re: M_Boats: M-15 "Chimpanzee": First Sail
by Harvey Hochstetter 30 Apr '02

30 Apr '02

Howard, A great big A M E N to your comment on Johns very well done story!! Harvey H >>> haudsley(a)tranquility.net 04/29/02 07:45PM >>> Great story John. It should be a sobering thought for the rest of us when someone of your talents admits that things they build or work on still go "Twang". Imagine the excitement all us rank amateurs have with our little projects! Howard _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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