January 2002 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

RE: M_Boats: Virus Protection Question.
by Shawn Boles 09 Jan '02

09 Jan '02

McAfee is fine. Also Norton Antivirus from Symantec. We use both in a highly sensitive environment and they work as advertised. cheers- Shawn Boles Grey Mist (M17 #276 1978) -----Original Message----- From: Harvey Hochstetter [mailto:LoHHochs@ihc.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 1:25 AM To: Montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Virus Protection Question. Greetings M_Boat Sailors All this virus traffic is really interesting to me. Being a computer user by force at work, I did mostly just whatever I needed to do to get the job done, T H E N, I found out that (after they put us onto the internet) that I could find out all kinds of interesting things, like who has Montgomery sailboats and who might have one to sell, and that there were all kinds of nice people out there that not only sail them but talk about them on their computers, that I have started to actually have fun on this thing as well. Since everything that come to me here at work goes through our corporate and local Info Tech layers, by the time it gets to me it is well checked and decontaminated so we don't have any bugs coming in or going out. That's nice for me because most of the virus stuff is still over my head. HOWEVER, since Deena hooked up to I-net at home and we are on this list there now too, I suspect that we had better start being careful. Not knowing one virus protection system from another, I found one, a McAfee virus program and a Hard disc organizer, that came in a set and got that for her for Christmas. Now, I am wondering if it is a good system or if there are better ones out there. Any coments would be greatly appreciated. When she tried to put in the McAfee system it seemed like it made things worse rather than better. Like I said, I don't know much about the system but I do know that she is using Windows 95, and the McAfee programs were supposed to work on that. Thanks again for the enlightening reading and for just being grand folks. Harvey & Deena M-15 #348 "Pelican" Walla Walla, WA _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Virus Protection Question.
by Harvey Hochstetter 09 Jan '02

09 Jan '02

Greetings M_Boat Sailors All this virus traffic is really interesting to me. Being a computer user by force at work, I did mostly just whatever I needed to do to get the job done, T H E N, I found out that (after they put us onto the internet) that I could find out all kinds of interesting things, like who has Montgomery sailboats and who might have one to sell, and that there were all kinds of nice people out there that not only sail them but talk about them on their computers, that I have started to actually have fun on this thing as well. Since everything that come to me here at work goes through our corporate and local Info Tech layers, by the time it gets to me it is well checked and decontaminated so we don't have any bugs coming in or going out. That's nice for me because most of the virus stuff is still over my head. HOWEVER, since Deena hooked up to I-net at home and we are on this list there now too, I suspect that we had better start being careful. Not knowing one virus protection system from another, I found one, a McAfee virus program and a Hard disc organizer, that came in a set and got that for her for Christmas. Now, I am wondering if it is a good system or if there are better ones out there. Any coments would be greatly appreciated. When she tried to put in the McAfee system it seemed like it made things worse rather than better. Like I said, I don't know much about the system but I do know that she is using Windows 95, and the McAfee programs were supposed to work on that. Thanks again for the enlightening reading and for just being grand folks. Harvey & Deena M-15 #348 "Pelican" Walla Walla, WA

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virus stopper
by Roberta & Mark Dvorscak 09 Jan '02

09 Jan '02

Hello Everybody, There has been some virus activity lately and it has prompted me to pass along a trick that I picked up somewhere. This won't stop you from getting a virus but it will help detect them and prevent you from unwittingly spreading them. Simply open your address book and create a new contact, name it !0000 ,give it no email address, then click ok. That's it! When the next nasty virus tries to send itself to everybody in your address book up pops an error message that says the message can't be sent because one or more recipients don't have a valid email address. You will be aware of the problem and nobody else will be infected. Simple and effective ( at least until some 10 year old figures out a way to get around it )! The days are getting longer. Get those projects completed. We'll be sailing again soon!!! Yippee! Mark Dvorscak

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Re: BWCA CanoeLIST Virus
by Jerry Montgomery 09 Jan '02

09 Jan '02

Friends and fellow list members: It looks like I am in the pipeline of virus spreaders; I returned recently from a couple of weeks of Bambi-murdering in AZ to a messed-up computor. In addition to the many "legitimate" emails I had about a dozen returns from people, most of whom I did not know, saying that they had gotten an email from me with no content (message), and who the hell was I, anyway? During this time I had sent only one email, which was to my brother, who immediately called me and told me that his virus detector had flagged the message as having the badtrans worm. I called a pro, who sent me a fixit program by Semantec which apparently has done its job. If any of you need this program I can email it to you as an attachment. Speaking of attachments, I was told that badtrans does not need to be opened to infect your 'putor, and that it can be passed back and forth, especially on a list. The fix, according to my pro, is to install Norton 2002, which I will do next weekend. Until then, I will run badtransfix before I send off emails, such as this one. Good luck, and sorry 'bout that. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Luck To: canoecountry(a)topica.com Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:09 PM Subject: BWCA CanoeLIST Virus (This is the E-Mail List of the Boundary Waters and Quetico Park) Fellow CanoeCountry List Members Got home last night after an uneventful weekend of ice fishing on Lake of The Woods. In going through my 50 or 60 emails, I saw the the warning about the infected email that came onto the list (thank you by the way for whoever posted it). I looked and sure enough, the person's email was a few lines down with the attachment shown nest to it. When I got down to it, I highlighted it and then scrolled up to the delete button to delete it. Before I knew what was happening there was a window opening on my screen showing a file downloading. I tried to stop it but all hell was breaking loose. The next thing I knew, I was getting a message from Prodigy saying their system had detected a virus in my outgoing email (of course I wasn't sending any) and my computer was contaminated. I got off line immediately. A few minutes later a friend of mine called from the twin cities saying that he had been on his computer and had just received a contaminated email. This morning the computer was disconnected and I hauled it in to the repair shop to get disenfected. Then I had to go buy Norton's Antivirus to install on my work computer (which I'm presently using) just to get back on line, because I access my email from both work and home. I have my own address in my address book to forward emails from home to work and back, so I knew the virus would be forwarded to my work computer too. I have always held by the practice of NOT OPENING ANY ATTACHMENTS in lieu of an anti virus program. Well guess what. I found out at the computer repair shop today that the viruses have gotten so sophisticated that if your Outlook Express is set up to "Preview" you emails (a term I hadn't heard of prior to today), meaning you highlight the email and the message appears in the window at the lower half of your screen, without opening the email attachment - that's enough to get the virus. Their suggestion for unprotected computers was to right click on the email and delete or right click and drag to your deleted items file - but don't left click on an email with attachment. Anyhow, the reason for this long explanation is to do more than simply say I'm sorry for any inconvenience to any of you but also hope my mistake may be a learning experience to someone on how to dispose of infected emails. I apologize again. After the home computer gets out of the shop I'll have to get another antivirus program for it, but since it still operates on Windows 95 - that may be more complicated than I'd hoped. Anyhow, we all live and learn. Rick ------------------------------------- This message was posted to the: Boundary Waters Canoe Area/Quetico Park E-Mail List. >>>Register to win a new Souris River Canoe, $10,000.00 cash or 50 other great prizes at http://www.canoecountry.com/winner The Boundary Waters Canoe Area web site is http://www.canoecountry.com The Quetico Provincial Park web site is http://www.queticopark.com Please visit http://www.canoecountry.com/forum for subscribing and unsubscribing information. Please, No Attachments! Posting/reposting of Commercial Solicitations is not allowed. Report Problems to: chad(a)canoecountry.com ------------------------------------ ==^================================================================ This email was sent to: jmbn(a)innercite.com EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aVxiOK.a2i2Xz Or send an email to: canoecountry-unsubscribe(a)topica.com T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^================================================================

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Re: M_Boats: Re:Virus alert from Joe Kidd
by Larry Yake 07 Jan '02

07 Jan '02

Peter, THANK-YOU for the anti-virus program info.! I had an old anti-virus program, but it was out-of-date. I tried the program you suggested and it found a virus I didn't even know I had. Larry Y.

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M15 Sails
by Steve_McClellan＠hmco.com 06 Jan '02

06 Jan '02

Happy New Year M-boaters, from the shores of beautiful, but very cold, Lake Michigan! I just took out and looked at the sails for my "new" old M15 for the first time last night. It's just a main and a jib. I was kind of hoping they would look better than they do. They look pretty well used and worn -- around some stress points they seem to be worn partly through. I've never had to purchase sails before. -- I'm just wondering (if anyone happens to know) about how much might I expect to have to pay for a new set? Also, is there a wide variation in price for different makers (i.e., will it pay off to shop around a lot?) Will it be a huge mistake to order from the lowest bidder? Should I order from someone locally (UK Sailmakers is in Chicago--from their website they LOOK expensive!) or does that matter? Any advice appreciated. Steve M15 #152

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New Centerboard
by Harvey Hochstetter 06 Jan '02

06 Jan '02

Hi Dale, Saw your note about the new CB and I was wondering 1/ What the weight of your ½" plate steel CB is? 2/ What you do for anti-rust treatment, ie: paint, glass etc? 3/ Was there any consideration given to going with a Stainless Steel plate? ( I'm not sure how the weight and cost would compare.) I know the CB pin in Pelican was replace several years before I took possession, and it has been a source of wonder to me, whether I need to be concerned about replacing or more detailed inspection than just crawling under the trailer with a flashlight. I do have the M-15 in a shop where I might be able to get it suspended. I was quite interested in the discussion of suspension earlier. I was considering a web strap system, but the cleat and chainplate method might be easier. Will probably have to beef up the overhead rafter/joist system, but I think that will be useful over time. Thanks in advance for the info. Since my access to this is at work, my chances to follow up vary according to the work load, but I will eventually get back to you. Harvey M-15 #348 "Pelican"

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M23
by Mr l w 05 Jan '02

05 Jan '02

Hi, Want to buy M23. Would like any 23 from bristol condition to project boat, any condition. Would like boat on trailer near west coast location. Thanks, Les __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/

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Sail Kit Pricing Home Page
by Ken Abrahams 05 Jan '02

05 Jan '02

For Sail Dimensions, open the site below. Fill in the boat you want and you will get sail dimensions and rig measurements. You can also get there from www.sailrite.com and click on sail kit pricing. Ken Abrahams http://quotesys.sailrite.com/quoting/sailkitpricing.htm

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Re:Virus alert from Joe Kidd
by Peter Jacobs 05 Jan '02

05 Jan '02

Thanks for the warning, Joe. I just spent the last 2 days cleaning my laptop and my desktop. Seems I got hit with the "WIN32/CIH" virus, and transfered it from the portable to the desk top without knowing. Took me a while to figure out it was a virus, although my wife said , 3 times, "Sure sounds like a virus to me!" Should have listened. ANYWAY .... moral of the story is to have a good resident virus checker. The one I'm now using (yeah, I did'nt use one until now ... duh :( is freely available at www.grisoft.com Seems to work really well. Hope this will help someone else. -Peter- =============================== Peter Jacobs M17 "Enfin" Victoria BC Canada --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) Version: 6.0.312 / Virus Database: 173 - Release Date: 12/31/01

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