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Re: DAD
by sondra halabi 08 Oct '02

08 Oct '02

>Message: 2 >From: Thomas Choate > >by whom? i haven't heard about much music via dada.... > >sondra halabi wrote: > >recently i've learned more about and heard some of those Futurist/Dada recordings >they were doing in Italy in the early 1900s --> those are so great!! --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com

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Re: Kenny G
by Perfect Sound Forever 08 Oct '02

08 Oct '02

John Gordon said: "whenever i tell people i'm a saxophonist the first thing they ask is " do you like kenny g?". fucking a what a lame ass question to ask." There's worse, believe me. When a jazz critic was recently talking to Mr. G about Charlie Parker, the eminent saxophonist insisted that the reason CP got the name "Yardbird" was because he made sounds like a bird on his saxophone. Excellent revisionist history, eh? Best, Jason -- Perfect Sound Forever online music magazine perfect-sound(a)furious.com http://www.perfectsoundforever.com

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Location, location, location
by William Crump 08 Oct '02

08 Oct '02

>From: "john gordon" <saxman119(a)hotmail.com> also, do most of the people on this list live in > new york? if so, it must be nice. i live in god forsaken georgia. I don't mean to get into a pissing contest with you, but I live in northeast Mississippi. The key is not to creeb and grotch about your circumstances, but to get the most out of them. Did you go to the Lytton/Lovens/Vandermark concert in Atlanta last month? I'm sure there's all sorts of interesting live music in Georgia, and not just in Atlanta and Athens. As for record stores -- thanks to the magic of UPS and FedEx, Aquarius Records and DMG are as close to my house and your house as they are to Steve Smith's and Fearless Leader Rizzi's. I'd be interested to hear from NYC zornlisters on this. Do you take full advantage of your location and make it Gigsville every night? I think if I tried to, I'd be bankrupt within three months. Welcome to the list, by the way. William Crump

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Re: Location, location, location
by Samerivertwice＠aol.com 08 Oct '02

08 Oct '02

In a message dated 10/8/02 1:41:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, zsteiner(a)butler.edu writes: > I get up to Chicago and Bloomington frequently from Indianapolis. I > also started a quasi-experimental presenting group at my university. If > it doesn't come, bring it to you! > > Zach > > Since moving to Nowhere, NY four years ago, I've basically planned every vacation around musical events. For example, in three weeks I'll be going to Nashville to catch Wilco and Elvis Costello on back-to-back nights at the Ryman Auditorium. Prior to the move I lived in Boston, Miami and Fresno (which didn't exactly have a thriving music scene but was a cultural mecca compared to where I live now, and is close enough to San Francisco that I got my fill of good shows) so my biggest problem was finding the funds and the time to attend all the shows I wanted to see. I tried very very hard to get the school where I work to host a Masada String/Chamber/Quartet concert a couple of years ago, but the committee to which I belong lost interest after seeing the cost estimates and equipment demands. Tom

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Re: Kenny G
by mr.dave＠attbi.com 08 Oct '02

08 Oct '02

Actually, and this is from the April 21, 1962 issue of Down Beat, the reviewer is relating a conversation he had with Dolphy: "He described how bird calls had been recorded and then slowed down in playback; the bird calls had a timbre similar to a flute. Conversely, he said, a symphony flutist recorded these bird calls, and when the recording was played at a fast speed, it sounded like birds." Dolphy went on to explain how birds sang using notes that were not on the western scale, and that he was thus inspired to play using quarter tones, and that he thought it was pretty. I guess that's imitating a bird in some abstract sense ... Dave > on 10/8/02 8:18 AM, Dave Egan at mr.dave(a)attbi.com wrote: > > > Hmmph. Isn't that what the critics used to say about Eric Dolphy? > > > > Dave > > I thought the Dolphy mention was because he had actually -- and I remember > him discussing this in an interview -- recorded some birdcalls, slowed them > down, and transcribed them. > > skip h >

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Re: Radical Jewish Culture favorites
by Arthur Gadney 08 Oct '02

08 Oct '02

Hi. Just after writing my last message, I checked the Tzadik page and just read about the two album I mentioned and they actually sound even more interesting than I remembered. Check it out: Rabbinical School Dropouts: Cosmic Tree The Rabbinical School Dropouts is as crazy a group of kooks as you could want. Sun Ra, the Hampton Grease Band, Frank Zappa and the Klezmatics all rolled into one, the music of the Friedmann brothers is fresh and imaginative. Their ten-member big band (featuring oboe, mandolin, bassoon, theremin, toy piano, tablas, etc.) storms through a dozen creative originals touching upon klezmer, jazz, funk, Latin, rock, and varied mishegoss along the way. Jewish garage jazz with a sick sense of humor from Long Beach, California. Frank London: Scientist at Work Originally released in 1999 in a privately pressed limited edition, this is much more than a re-release. Alchemically transformed by John Zorn through radical remixing, editing and overdubs by downtown superstars Mark Feldman, Erik Friedlander, Cyro Baptista, Jamie Saft (and Zorn himself on sax), Scientist at Work is a dynamic collaboration in the Miles Davis/Teo Macero tradition. Featuring standout work by the late Thomas Chapin on saxophones and bass flute, as well as the lyrical trumpet of bandleader/composer Frank London, this music touches on Jewish prayer, Afro-funk, Jazz fusion, Middle Eastern Taqsim and more. The London one sounds like it's something quite new for Zorn. Does it really work!? I mean, if I read about a new Laswell album of "radical remixing, editing and overdubs" which mixed "Jewish prayer, Afro-funk, Jazz fusion, Middle Eastern Taqsim and more" it would take a whole lot before I would buy it ;-) But with Zorn, I'm kind of curious. AT least he hasn't done 500 of them before.... And yes, it's true, there now is Tzadik t-shirts! Cheers. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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Frank London/radical jewish culture
by Matthew Garrington 08 Oct '02

08 Oct '02

I quite enjoy Frank London's Scientist at work. Some tracks at the beginning are reminiscent of 70s Miles Davis, then it ventures more toward a Jewish-avant garde feel. By far though, my favorite Radical Jewish Culture cds are by Tim Sparks. That guy is incredible. He's a guitar virtuoso right along side someone like Frisell. He's got a very roots feel, though he constantly borders on "over-playing." I haven't heard his third tzadik release, but his first two are top-notch. I assume that the last one is great as well with the addition of Ribot and Friedlander (plus Cohen and Baptista). Lest we also forget . .. . Yo! I killed your God (Marc Ribot) --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos, & more faith.yahoo.com

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Re: Radical Jewish Culture favorites
by Samerivertwice＠aol.com 08 Oct '02

08 Oct '02

Ack! I forgot to mention how much I enjoy Steven Bernstein's two discs -- "Diaspora Soul" and "Diaspora Blues." Sex Mob is a terrific project, but I enjoy his solo albums even more. Tom In a message dated 10/8/02 10:35:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, efrendv(a)yahoo.es writes: > Hi, > > Besides the Masada stuff, I've enjoyed the RJC > material quite a lot. > One of the first I purchased was Anthony Coleman's > "Sephardic Tinge", which is pretty good. It obviously > deals with a mixture of Spanish-Jewish traditional > melodies plus a good Monkian-piano trio sound. Really > entertaining. It mixes Coleman originals with those > Hebrew traditionals, Jelly Roll Morton and Monk's > tunes if my memory serves. I recently bought their > latest outing, "Our Beautiful Garden is Open" and > despite sticking with the same formula, is a totally > enjoyable album (Kurt Weill cover included). > Two that I've incessantly recommended are Tim Sparks' > "Tanz" and "At the Rebbe's Table". Beautiful > renditions of Jewish traditionals as well, this time > arranged for strings and percussion. I didn't hear his > first solo album on Tzadik but it's probably as > delightful. > The two Krakauer cds are really good too. If you are > looking for a more straight-ahead klezmer style, this > should definitely match your tastes. Krakauer is > absolutely amazing on clarinet. Although they deal > with the same stuff, the albums are pretty different, > with "Klezmer NY" clearly more funk-oriented. It's > definitely a good mixture. > Although at first it sounded the same throughout, > Steve Berenstein's "Diaspora Soul" is really > enjoyable. It blends Jewish melodies with Latin > rhythms and a nice Wurlitzer sound. > Then there are other RJC releases that have little or > nothing to do with traditional Jewish folk music like > Marty Ehrlich's "Sojourn" (amazing album), Marc > Ribot's Shrek live, the Kramer album, or Anthony > Coleman's "Selfhaters". > > Some of my biggest disappointments: the Roberto > Rodríguez album, Satlah and Davka. Just an opinion, > but I wouldn't invest a cent on this. > > Best, > > Efrén del Valle > > > > ______________________________________________________ Discs I'm listening to at work: Elvis Costello Glastonbury Festival 6/20/87 Bruce Springsteen 12/8/01 Golden Smog -- Keys and Filler

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Re: Radical Jewish Culture favorites
by Samerivertwice＠aol.com 08 Oct '02

08 Oct '02

Funny you should mention the Radical Jewish Culture series this morning. Just last night I loaded my five-CD changer with Davka's "Judith" and "Lavy's Dream," Frank London's "Scientist at Work," Jenny Scheimann's "The Rabbi's Lover" and the New Klezmer Trio's "Short For Something." As the tunes shuffled through the evening I was awestruck by the consistent strength of the material. Not a bum track in the bunch. Last night listening experience inspired me to bring Danny Zamir's "Satlah" and "Live at Tonic: Exodus" as well as both of David Krakauer's Klezmer Madness discs to work today. While I don't own all of the RJC releases, I do own about 25 of them and I can say without hyperbole that I've enjoyed them all immensely. The Masada stuff is probably my favorite, but Davka and Krakauer follow close behind. Hell, even my officemate, who's a ZZ Top diehard, thinks "Klezmer, NY" rocks. Tom In a message dated 10/8/02 9:58:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, a_gadney(a)hotmail.com writes: > Hi. > > What's your five favorite Radical Jweish Culture discs? There is so many, > and I still haven't really gotten into much of it, and don't really now > where to begin. > > I like Masada, of course. And the David Gould disc is amazing. Really fits > the "RJC" label. Very strong Jewish influence, but still something totally > new. At elast to me. > > What about the recent Rabbinical School Dropouts' "Cosmic Tree" and Frank > London's "Scientist at Work"? Those look interesting. And oh so many > others... > > Cheers! > > ______________________________________________________ Discs I'm listening to at work: Elvis Costello Glastonbury Festival 6/20/87 Bruce Springsteen 12/8/01 Golden Smog -- Keys and Filler

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(no subject)
by john gordon 08 Oct '02

08 Oct '02

hey i'm new to this list. i've been really getting into zorn for the past couple of months. i have his masada live in jerusalem( i believe thats the one), spy vs. spy, tableux( i hope i spelled it right, the two disc set of jewish arrangements of zorns without him playing on any tracks) and naked city. i was hopping some one could give me some sugesstions on albums to get of his harder edge experimental punk style with him playing sax albums. any help would be great. also, do most of the people on this list live in new york? if so, it must be nice. i live in god forsaken georgia. whenever i tell people i'm a saxophonist the first thing they ask is " do you like kenny g?". fucking a what a lame ass question to ask. anyways, i would really apreciate any help. thanks. john _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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