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OT re: drugs 'n' stuff
by Alan 18 Apr '03

18 Apr '03

Weird. I tried to send this e-mail and it bounced as though I had made some sort of request... Anyway, here it is again for posterity's sake (like she cares): Someone said their "experimental" stage was over. I kind of feel that as well, however I would drop acid or whatever if some younger and/or unexperienced people wanted an experienced guide. But I really don't have the time or inclination anymore. Of course since I quit selling acid it's just not around all the time and nobody I know up here is a regular tripper so I might be talking out my ass. If it were around a lot it might be a different story. Anyone want to mail me a few tabs to test the theory? www.psychicreform.com Who let that monkey in here!?! Dada is dead. Watch your overcoat. "Dissent is what rescues democracy from a slow death behind closed doors." -Lewis H. Lapham

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RE: [Orb] Drugs and First Orb Experience and Other Ramblings
by Ben May 18 Apr '03

18 Apr '03

>It is fairly rare nowadays - not too many of them around. > >Plus, it has the exclusive to CD Frank DeWulf remix. Huh? I could have sworn I found a blue room promo 12" that has the de wulf remix... -ben "owns 6 blue room 12 inch singles" may :) _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Re: OT: [Orb] OT- swimming off drugs
by john bennett 18 Apr '03

18 Apr '03

Just for future reffrence - if y wanna give up Smoking and know how to swim !doing this also made me give up E -but i didnt have a regular dealer - so this drug was never really easy to come by !but swimming made me not think about it- even when clubin! (swimming is the better exercise cause its a great cardivascular work out - pluss the best bit is your floating and can do a length then just relax for a while at the edge of the pool and just gently paddle a bit! this is how i did it first give up fags for about four nights 4 - no need to exercise- after work watch tv play comp games -but any other work like compter programing makes you want to get out the spliff /ciggys!- i found that lying down helps its far more relaxing, sitting upright i donno - just made me wanna reach for the rizzla - lying down your arms arnt free to wannda !another good idea is to hide maybe throw away your ash tray and generaly tidy your room up a bit ! get rid of though's smokey smells- buy some viatmin tablets with your smoke money - i raided holland and barret - with my money i bought about 15 differnt bottles of tabllets - i was a right pill head !! after the 4-5 nights of this your air ways are more open - so you can go for your first swim - i found that the first swimm is A. very interresting a total change to lifestyle B. quite hard if youve smoked a long tme can only do a few lengths(this gets better) C. a new state of mind starts to emerge D. afterwards i could get on my compuer and work better because i was more relaxed and calm E. i suddley had a loads of cash and bought computer stuff to make life easyer (y know/stuff youve always wanted but could never afford cause you wanted spliff) each night you swim more and feel cleaner and more healthy - (hard to explain in text) just dont over do it. dont let your heart beat to hard for the first few sessions - just mindly swim about - to tell you the truth ive done this twice - the first time as i said before i had a bong and started up again - but the last time about november last year - i had the odd spliff with my mates and still kept it up - but get this - just as i was really getting into it i had the goggles-i was swimming under water and everthing, my swimming baths closed down for repares - i was lost, i thought shall i find a new swimming bath? or shall i go get some smoke !?? i went for the smoke and have been an ash tray for 6 months !!! and proud of it ......NOT ----- Original Message ----- From: "bi11i" <orb(a)bi11i.com> To: "'john bennett'" <greenjade(a)blueyonder.co.uk> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 8:32 PM Subject: RE: OT: [Orb] OT- a way off drugs You swim on a team ever? That's how I spent my youth was swimming for a team about 4 hours a day, traveling to swim meets, heading all over the country with my good friends to compete (or mainly just fuck around.) I can COMPLETELY identify with that feeling of feeling clean, inside and out. Glad to hear that someone else shares the same enthusiasm for it. You still smoking? -----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of john bennett Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 1:17 PM To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: OT: [Orb] OT- a way off drugs for anyone wanting to give up drugs or smoking swimming is the answer! after about 5 nights of swimming every night - you feel so much cleaner inside you sort of forget why you ever botherd to inhale tary shit - or whatever stuff you where on! the first few nights are hard - but after that it s so much easyer - and then just go once every few nights - exercise is the answer! i managed it - for about 3 months i was off everything - i still went clubin - i danced about 3 times as much as normal cause i had so much more energy - but then i did a recording session a nd the producer was smoking a bong - and just one -JUST ONE suck on his bong (i said bong ...not penis ) and i was back to square one ! still thoughs three months where the most healthy of my life since about 14yrs of age- im gonna try again soon - just ive got some duty free fags to get through first! From: "Chris Morgan" <cm(a)mihalis.net> To: <orb(a)mailman.xmission.com> Cc: <orb(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 2:58 PM Subject: Re: OT: [Orb] Thrash's crack buddy! > > > > Rather than ask how many on the list are drug users, I'm curious as to how > > many are not... > > > > I'll be open and honest in saying that drugs have quite a bit to do with the > > origin of my musical tastes (especially with the orb. The fist time I heard > > them I was listening to some ABTU after eating some really nice Blue Unicorn > > LSD.) I pushed it a bit too far in my younger days and spent 5 years as a > > heroin addict, but other than that me and my friend, 'drugs' have gotten > > along fairly well... > > I don't take any drugs and never have, ok maybe that one time when > everyone else in a sealed car got stoned and I was driving I felt > something... > > Anyway, drugs are not the only way to get into an altered > state. Obviously some exercise is like a natural drug, and I often > find my perception of music heightened after, say, 40 lengths in the > pool or a three mile walk. Or even just crack open a beer and turn it > up, that often is enough to release me from the cage... > > -- > Chris Morgan <cm at mihalis.net> http://www.mihalis.net > Temp sig. - Enquire within > > _______________________________________________ > Orb mailing list > Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb _______________________________________________ Orb mailing list Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb

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RE: [Orb] Re: OUTRAGE OVER PALESTINIAN SITUATION
by Ben May 18 Apr '03

18 Apr '03

This is why I like you Don. You're a pragmatist, and always willing to see the humor in anything. I hate being >politically correct… Its so funny how people demonize the idea of being politically correct. The entire phrase is a fucking oxymoron. Like military intelligence or jumbo shrimp. Political correctness came about as a way to try and not offend people, but ended up being yet another intellectual straightjacket because its ideals became dogmatic and meaningless. I think it's the right idea to try and phrase things in ways that dont offend people, but I also think its important to speak the truth, and not cloud your real views with a lot of euphemism. The US State Department is currently investigating her >death and they aren’t accepting that it was an “accident”. That’s >a start. Wow, thats awsome! Now if only they could start viewing all the "accidental" targeted killings of palestinians the same way ;) I’ve come to the conclusion that people >basically enjoy killing each other. It’s been that way since the >beginning >of time. Its true that there is a part of human nature which loves violence. Embraces it even. But like all parts of the human psyche, if you put thought into it you can overcome it. >People don’t like each other because the worship the wrong god, >have the wrong color skin, are too poor, too wealthy, drive SUVs and eat >hamburgers… hahah! I am trying to think who would hate someone for eating a hamburger. I suppose there are some hard line hindu groups who would get pissed at you for eating a hamburger in their house or something >Peaceful leaders might as well paint a target on their head. >Jesus, Gandhi, MLK… I don’t like it, but there’s not much I can do >than >keep myself informed from all angles and be politically active. Sure there is. Repeat after me: "Which backstreet boy is the hottest? Who will win american idol? What is the phattest fashion this week? Who will win american idol?" >As far as the America goes it really sickens me to see how fat and ignorant >so many of us are. Oh man, agreed. Wholeheartedly. As a non-overweight, somewhat informed and definately opinionated american, I am constantly awed by the idiocy and general malaise of our citizenry. George W Bush was elected with like 45% of the vote. You know what percentage of the population actually voted? Less than 50! >When I was in Paris a few months ago I couldn’t believe >how thin everyone was. Same thing with spain. And these are not populations known for eating the healthiest foods. Its all about the following things: 1) They eat their meals at the same times every day, 2) they eat reasonable portions (anyone who's ever been to chilis or olive garden knows what I'm talking about here), and 3) They eat slowly so they know when they are full. I was amazed at how hot the women are in europe. I dont think I saw a single fat person the entire time I was in the country... Try and say that after visiting new york city (which is one of the skinniest cities in the country actually) and spending 40 minutes wedged between two whales on the A train who are taking up 4 seats each. <shiver> It’s gotten so bad in the US that almost every grocery store >and mall has a complimentary motorized “handi-cart” which far too often >is >not occupied by some who really needs it. Here's an example of political correctness gone wrong. Its now considered totally taboo to ever criticise someone about their weight. Even if they are morbidly obese, and driving up the cost of health care. Its gone from a viewpoint of lets protect people from derision and insult, to lets avoid telling them the truth and trying to help them live better lives. I'm sorry, but nothing justifies being a 5' 2" person who weighs 475 pounds. You can >barely carry on a decent conversation without focusing on pop culture. I love being in yahoo literati chat rooms and trying to have intelligent arguments only to be shouted down by people accusing me of interrupting their diversion from real life... >However I will make no apology for buying cheap gas and eating hamburgers. There's nothing wrong with either one. Certainly, there's a difference between buying a car which gets 24 MPG versus 4 (the new hummer gets that! :P), but I would say eat your cheap gasoline and fill your tank up with as many burgers as you want. Wait. Strike that. Reverse it. Right, on we go... _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Re: OT: [Orb] OT- a way off drugs
by Bbbrooo＠aol.com 18 Apr '03

18 Apr '03

love swimming (seriously) - don't you just love the zen state (about 15 minutes in) as the endorphins kick in......splish, splash..........mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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RE: [Orb] Re: OUTRAGE OVER PALESTINIAN SITUATION
by Ben May 18 Apr '03

18 Apr '03

>How can you make a celebration of the human spirit via sound waves >When your soul is being crushed? Thrash, my friend, there was fucked up shit going on in the world when you were making music before, there was fucked up shit going on when bach and mozart were composing, and (unless we manage to find some way to make every person on the planet feel the physical pain of every other person, talk about a decent system of negative feedback! :P) there will always be bad stuff going on in the world while brillian musicians are making music. Look at marley! He looked at the ills of the world and channeled his frustration into music. I would say that the best way to avoid the soul-crushing is to channel that energy INTO your compositions. :) _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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RE: [Orb] Re: OUTRAGE OVER PALESTINIAN SITUATION
by Don Gagen 18 Apr '03

18 Apr '03

First of all I find it very odd to be getting a lecture on sensitivity from you of all people. I almost feel honored to have offended you so. It was definitely tasteless, but I’ve always been an equal opportunity offender. Kind of like the Affirmative Action of dark humor and insults… I hate being politically correct… Why is it ok make jokes at one persons expense and not another? It wouldn’t have mattered what side she was on to me. I believe in her cause, but not her idealistic naiveté. I only hope that her death serves a purpose. The US State Department is currently investigating her death and they aren’t accepting that it was an “accident”. That’s a start. The whole thing was captured on film. If they can’t prosecute with that smoking gun then all is truly lost. My dark humor is about the only way I can handle this fucked up world we live in. Maybe I’m too cynical but, I’ve come to the conclusion that people basically enjoy killing each other. It’s been that way since the beginning of time. People don’t like each other because the worship the wrong god, have the wrong color skin, are too poor, too wealthy, drive SUVs and eat hamburgers… Peaceful leaders might as well paint a target on their head. Jesus, Gandhi, MLK… I don’t like it, but there’s not much I can do than keep myself informed from all angles and be politically active. I’m definitely not going to become a human shield so some sadistic bastard can run me over with a bulldozer. It’s sad, but I don’t think it will ever change. As far as the America goes it really sickens me to see how fat and ignorant so many of us are. When I was in Paris a few months ago I couldn’t believe how thin everyone was. I could have almost counted the overweight people on hand and I was there for a week riding the subway and walking several miles a day. The only real exception was the tourists that I saw. I can’t say the same for London, but it was still better than what I see at local mall in the states. It’s gotten so bad in the US that almost every grocery store and mall has a complimentary motorized “handi-cart” which far too often is not occupied by some who really needs it. Rather, it’s someone who’s created a self inflicted handicap by eating their way to morbid obesity. Most people I encounter know more about who’s banging who on their favorite sitcom than they do with regard to what’s going on in the world. You can barely carry on a decent conversation without focusing on pop culture. However I will make no apology for buying cheap gas and eating hamburgers. That’s just the way it is here and if I lived elsewhere I’d have to adapt to whatever was available. I can handle some expensive gas with a side of fish & chips too. "There is no greater joy than soaring high on the wings of your dreams, except maybe the joy of watching a dreamer who has nowhere to land but in the ocean of reality." DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com -----Original Message----- From: doh [OT] [mailto:thrash@btclick.com] Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 12:54 PM To: 'What were the skies like when you were young?' Subject: RE: [Orb] Re: OUTRAGE OVER PALESTINIAN SITUATION WHAT????? what kind of mindless, ignorant , insensitive cow shit is that? (ERR FORGET THOSE POSTS AFTER THE BEERS) Oh, you’re not American by any chance are you? Oh yes – you don’t give a fuck about the world You’ve proven that already No need to rub it in my friend That’ shit makes me so mad If I saw you now I would schlap you Don’t ever EVER fucking make a joke like that When someone who wanted nothing but peace With a true genuine heart got killed for FUCK ALL By a bunch of thugs But YEAH ITS FUCKING OK COS YOU GOT YER FUCKING HAMBURGERS AND NOW THE OIL PRICES HAVE GONE DOWN I CAN GET FROM FUCKMING NEW YORK TO FLORIDA IN MY FUCKING SMV FOUR WHEEL BULLSHITTHA THAT GUZZLES DOWN NEW OIL LIMITS RAISED (!) BY MR BUSH (POSSIBLY IN TIME FOR IRAQ INVASION??) YEAH CONSUME BUY DIE SING IT TO THE GRAVE CONSUME BUY DIE WE SHALL NOT PAY ATTENTION CONSUME BUY DIE [!-JטStäbŁîP-!] 28 Tooting High Street, London, SW17 9PB United KIngdom Tel: +44 (0)208 682 4545 Mobile: +44 7985 680 544 Web: www.justablip.co.uk <http://www.justablip.co.uk> Maybe you could take a grass roots approach and try something like standing in front of a bulldozer. Wait... Bad idea... "There is no greater joy than soaring high on the wings of your dreams, except maybe the joy of watching a dreamer who has nowhere to land but in the ocean of reality." DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM <MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM> ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com <http://www.ensemblestudios.com> -----Original Message----- From: Bbbrooo(a)aol.com [mailto:Bbbrooo@aol.com <mailto:Bbbrooo@aol.com> ] Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 12:22 PM To: orb(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Orb] Re: OUTRAGE OVER PALESTINIAN SITUATION ......Party political speech for the Peace in the Middle East (remix) Party, Maybe I'm naive but I believe that that the main hope for relative world peace is for the US (and the very Great Britain) to actively take control of the Israeli/Palestinian Peace Talks. Then take some UNBIASED forceful action (No, not invade, but sanctions, grants, support, etc), but what I am asking is how do we get our governments to do this? Anyone? My suggestion is a a mass organized e-mail campaign telling all our local officials and government that we will only vote for them in the next election if we have already seen them support action or do something on this. just a thought? *************************************************************** "After the amount of shit we've had with sampling in terms of having to clear things, it's a godsend that Kris is here because he can easily disguise a sample with the S1100. I just like to feed him really weird noises to get off with. It's his way of having a girlfriend in the studio and he treats it like a big love affair... Kris is a natural" Alex P MT November 1993.... ......squeeze and caress that sound, tell it you love it then dump it for another note, thats our kris....... _______________________________________________ Orb mailing list Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb <http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb>

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Re: OT: [Orb] OT- a way off drugs
by Ben May 18 Apr '03

18 Apr '03

>for anyone wanting to give up drugs or smoking >swimming is the answer! after about 5 nights of swimming >every night - you feel so much cleaner inside you sort of forget why you >ever botherd to inhale tary shit - or whatever stuff you where on! the >first >few nights are hard - but after that it s so much easyer - and then just go >once every few nights - exercise is the answer! > >i managed it - for about 3 months i was off everything - i still went >clubin - i danced about 3 times as much as normal cause i had so much more >energy - Heheh too funny. I've found the same thing to be the case. Exercise is the most amazing cure all. Once you can really breathe properly you wonder why you ever smoked at all. I also do yoga which is amazing for that. Nonetheless I still smoke ganjah and drink red wine, but thats about it. My experimental phase ended after college. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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RE: [Orb] Re: OUTRAGE OVER PALESTINIAN SITUATION
by Ben May 18 Apr '03

18 Apr '03

>YEAH CONSUME BUY DIE >SING IT TO THE GRAVE >CONSUME BUY DIE >WE SHALL NOT PAY ATTENTION >CONSUME BUY DIE You rock thrash. I dont know that I agree with everything you just said, but you still rock. I now know what to tattoo on my ass: "Consume, buy, die" ;) _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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Re: OUTRAGE OVER PALESTINIAN SITUATION
by Alan 18 Apr '03

18 Apr '03

Invade Israel and rid them of weapons of mass destruction! This is, after all, the main desire and plan of the Shrub Whitehouse: Bring on Armageddon. If you'll do a little research into the thought processes of the far right Christian Coalition it is their duty to hasten the Second Coming by any means possible. One important, nay, essential element of this is a world war in the Middle East. Now they've got all four horsemen thundering around. Stupid superstitious fucks. The worst part is that when they die there is no way for them to know they were fucking wrong and they're just dead and they've left a more fucked up world for the rest of us. It takes a little while to dig this stuff out of the CCA site and Pat Robertson's site (as well as their pamphlets and speech transcriptions) but these people are nuts and they're running the country. What's that? You have doubts? A little tidbit: The keynote speaker at the Texas CCA convention was Dick Cheney. The convention was attended by fellow members John Ashcroft and Donald Rumsfeld as well as a sizeable number of Congressmen. They are evil and insane fundamentalists that think Hitler was a great man. A side story: Years ago a preacher made the mistake of driving up the hill to my grandma's house to try to convert her. She was fairly polite to him but firm that she didn't go to church and didn't plan on changing. He then asked her if she wasn't afraid of going to hell. She laughed and said, "No, I don't believe in hell but if I do die and go there I just hope they give me the job of shoveling coals on all the people like you." Needless to say, he turned on his heel and left. And while I'm busy spitting on Christians, when I lived in New Orleans the Jehovah's Witnesses decided they needed to save me and started coming to my house... at seven FUCKING o'clock on Sunday morning. The third time they showed up my dogs were in the yard so they were barking, I'd only gotten to sleep a little while before and they were beating on the porch railing with an empty can rather than going away. So I got up, put a dab of ketchup on the corner of my mouth, tousled my hair up really big (I had lots of hair) and stormed out onto the porch naked and, with my most evil grin, said, "WELCOME TO THE HOUSE OF SATAN! COME RIGHT IN, THE SACRIFICES HAVE JUST BEGUN!!!" I then begged them to come back as they ran in both directions down the street. Ahhhhhh. From what I gather they will have reported that house as a cursed place which they are never to enter. www.psychicreform.com Who let that monkey in here!?! Dada is dead. Watch your overcoat. "Dissent is what rescues democracy from a slow death behind closed doors." -Lewis H. Lapham

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