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Mast gate fabrication for my M17
by John Schinnerer 28 Jun '19

28 Jun '19

Hi all, Someone asked me about this off-list and I was just finishing up the fabrication...a mast gate for my M17. My mast has the cut-away (milled out) mast gate, which makes a big opening, both sides of track. So I made a fixed plate for port side, and a removable plate for starboard (arbitrary, except that I normally am on starboard side of mast when attaching boom and/or mainsail, and I'd heave to on starboard tack if I had to mess with the gate for any reason). They're basically identical, except for the thumbscrews on the removable side. Here's a few pix (not necessarily in order as attached) that show the gate pieces ready to install, the fixed side installed, and both sides installed. Material is salvaged/reused 1/8" aluminum plate. 10-32 for the big screws (gate to mast), 6-32 for the small ones (filler piece to attachment piece). cheers, John -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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Kingston WA Ramp
by Jim Poulakis 26 Jun '19

26 Jun '19

Ahoy Puget Sound M-17 Captains; I recently moved from the San Francisco Bay area to Kingston Washington. Have any of you had experience launching an M-17 from the Kingston Marina? The ramp angle looks a little shallow to me. Along those lines, is there a trick for determining the ramp angle beforehand? Thanks, Jim M-17 "Spirit"

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Monty 12 for sale in Maine
by Burton Lowry 26 Jun '19

26 Jun '19

Monty 12 with trailer. Boat will need work before use. Reason for selling: too many boats. In Surry, Maine. We are about a forty minute drive south from Bangor. Trailer is good and will be ready to go on road. Has mast, sails in decent condition--as far as I can tell it is all there. $600. I never got it in the water so I can't tell you anything about the boat's handling. Burt

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Two more photos/question
by Gerry Lempicki 25 Jun '19

25 Jun '19

Looking at the original mast, someone mounted strap eyes on the port side and jam cleats on the starboard side. Any idea what these might have been used for? I have not mounted any on the new mast yet. There are permanently mounted blocks on the deck to redirect the halyards to the cabin top near the companionway. -Gerry

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M-17 question
by Gerry Lempicki 25 Jun '19

25 Jun '19

Ok we are getting close to launching this boat. I have a few questions before we do. I have some club members that will help with the learning to sail part, but I want to make sure I have the equipment in order. First question; is there a recommended height for the eye on the mast to hold the whisker pole? On the original mast it was 21.5" from the bottom. At this height the pole is at an angle (high at the sail, low at the mast). Should it be horizontal or does it matter? Maybe it's low so anyone can reach it when standing on the cabin floor? Another question; are my jib sheet blocks roughly where they should be on the rail? -Gerry

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Bunk boards vs rollers
by Rusty Knorr 24 Jun '19

24 Jun '19

Oh boy, here’s a can of worms! I have rollers on my ‘83 M-15, I think it’s probably the original trailer, and no deformation of the hull at all. I LOVE the rollers because it makes launching and retrieving so easy and foolproof. I can’t imagine with the quality of these boats and their fiberglass layup that the damage to a hull could be cause by anything but abuse such as high speed driving over rough roads with insufficient suspension or letting the boat bounce on the rollers. Rollers have been used on all manner of boats for decades without issue, but I hear lots of stories of hull damage. Makes me wonder what is actually happening to cause it. Rusty Knorr M-15 “Vanilla”

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Trailer Extension
by Willy Gorrissen 22 Jun '19

22 Jun '19

I'm wondering if I should extend my trailer extension on the ramp or extend it when I am rigging the boat (M 15) and back down to the ramp with it extended. I rig my boat on a flat parking lot about 20 feet above and 200 feet or so from the water. As I only launch my boat once a year so I don't have much experience. I've done both and have been nervous both times. Thanks for the advice, Willy Gorrissen Lula M 15 606

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Tricks for launching a M17 in shallow water?
by Richard Everett 22 Jun '19

22 Jun '19

Hey all, We want to take our 2005 M17 with the standard Pacific single axle trailer to a small lake (a group of us are camping there and I thought it would be a blast to have the M17 to take people on the water). The lake is about 3/4 mile wide and maybe 4 miles long, so not huge but big enough I think for some fun. Very deep (270 feet) but it looks like the level is down some 5 feet and the boat ramps are shallow. I put a stick in about where I thought we could back the keel to and it was around 2.5 feet deep. It was another 50 or 60 feet before it got to 5 feet, then it gets really deep. I am not sure if our boat will float off the trailer at 2.5 feet. I was trying to think of some tricks (inner tube tied under the transom or something). Any thoughts? Rick

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Lake Coeur D'Alene Recommendations
by Gerald Wyatt 19 Jun '19

19 Jun '19

Hello, I would like to bring my M23 to lake Coeur D'Alene in early August. She is too big to put back on the trailer each day so I would like to find temporary mooring for about 9 days. Does anyone know a good place for this? It looks like Silver Beach Marina is the best choice. I would have to launch near the Hagadone marine group and sail to Silver Beach. I noticed there is a sailing marina run by the Panhandle Yacht Club. Is anyone a member that would be willing to offer information? Is there a good place to anchor? Any general information about sailing and launching on the lake would be helpful. Thanks for the help! Gerry Wyatt

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Sailing Adventures four volumes
by brad kurlancheek 19 Jun '19

19 Jun '19

congrats connie - i was just looking today to see if anyone has ever written a book on how to go from newbie to ocean sailing; going to check yours out! - brad

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