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Montgomery 15 Window Replacement
by David Grah 14 May '20

14 May '20

I reminded myself the windows of our 1986 Montgomery 15 are cracked at some of the screws, could be bedded and sealed better, and are pretty scratched up. I think there has been discussion about replacing windows, maybe applicable to Montgomery 15's but I can't find it on the photo site and am having trouble downloading the entire history of this group to search, so I'm going to be lazy and ask here. I assume I'd need to fabricate them, so, some questions: 1. What is the best material, type and thickness, for example?2. What is a good source for the material, including tinted gray?3. I hope I could duplicate the shape of the old windows with a pattern bit on a router but wonder if that would melt the material to much. Any suggestion how to cut them out, bandsaw and a file?4. It appears the windows are beveled on the inside of the edges and creating that bevel could create a melting problem like cutting the windows out. What is a good way to create this bevel? Any experience and suggestions are welcome! David GrahBishop California

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Folding plastic boats
by Rusty Knorr 11 May '20

11 May '20

Not to be negative here, but the Orukayak is about the most returned item we get at REI. I would not own one for free and I’ve had the opportunity! Hopefully this is a better design, but I’m skeptical of the whole concept. Rusty www.rustyknorr.weebly.com > On Apr 16, 2020, at 11:04 AM, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Folding kaysk (Jon Barber) > 2. Re: Folding kaysk (John Schinnerer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 18:27:12 -0700 > From: Jon Barber <brbrbarber(a)gmail.com> > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: M_Boats: Folding kaysk > Message-ID: > <CAFwAWQsUEv-xC2eZHZ28EAL+=14jBBOMSGhBXAotn5nWOFjRtQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Where do I buy one for 299? Sounds like a great deal. > Jon Barber > Monty17 > Ol'44 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2020 18:58:59 -0700 > From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Folding kaysk > Message-ID: <67c7b8bc-3b83-8b48-4e15-79e5cafe7eb0(a)eco-living.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Here's the link I posted originally. Kickstarter campaign. > > https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tucktec/tucktec-eco-folding-kayak > > Went nuts for this guy, he is almost 10X over his original goal. The > point was just to convert all production to recycled HDPE instead of > virgin. But he's still offering the kickstarter price/promo for three > more days. My girlfriend ordered one. It will be a while for delivery > now because of the huge response he got. > > Here's the regular company page - he's been making & selling them for a > while, it's not a brand new product but has had some improvements. > > https://tucktec.com/ > > cheers, > John > >> On 4/15/20 6:27 PM, Jon Barber wrote: >> Where do I buy one for 299? Sounds like a great deal. >> Jon Barber >> Monty17 >> Ol'44 >> > > -- > John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > -------------------------------------------- > - Eco-Living - > Whole Systems Design Services > People - Place - Learning - Integration > john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 > http://eco-living.net > http://sociocracyconsulting.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 206, Issue 5 > ************************************************

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Re: M_Boats: What does your M17 weigh?
by bownez＠juno.com 01 May '20

01 May '20

Hi Henry, That is a bit heavier than I would guess, But, you have a lot of do-dads. I never weighed my 1976 M17. Your early M17 looks very nice, I know you put a ton of work into her. Had her out on Minnetonka yet? Mr. Bones Mpls ____________________________________________________________ Sponsored by https://www.newser.com/?utm_source=part&utm_medium=uol&utm_campaign=rss_tag… Cops: N95 Mask May Have Caused Crash http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5ea6d54e58498554e24f3st02vuc1 South Korea: We Don't Buy Rumors About Kim http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5ea6d54e7afd9554e24f3st02vuc2 Stacey Abrams: 'Willing to Serve' http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5ea6d54e9d6d4554e24f3st02vuc3

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What does your M17 weigh?
by Henry Rodriguez 01 May '20

01 May '20

I had my boat and trailer weighed at a truck stop on Friday. Total combined weight is *2900 lb.* I wonder how that compares to other M17 rigs that have actually been weighed (not guesstimated?) I believe the trailer is the original Trail-Rite, not Pacific. Weight factors: I had my Evinrude 4hp motor on a mount at the front of the trailer and 3 gals of fuel in the cockpit tank. A 7' homemade trailer extension with a 2' sleeve accounts for about 75 lb of extra weight. Other heavyish items are a 55 lb Rolls battery, 15 lb Delta anchor w/35' of 1/4" chain on 200' rode, and a mast raising 2 x 4 gin pole with attached brake winch. Also a pair of experimental trailer "goal posts" made from 1" steel conduit and PVC pipe that are way too long and need to be cut down by several feet. How heavy is your rig? Henry Rodriguez

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new member
by Richard Zimmerman 23 Apr '20

23 Apr '20

Hello to all, After looking at a lot of sailboats in 17 foot range Montgomery 17 is first choice. I sailed a Tanzer 16 overnighter, then sold it. I’m retired. I hope to buy a M. 17 in next year. I plan to sail on rivers around Portland and lakes in Oregon. take care, Dick Z. Sent from my iPad

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Tuctec folding kayak
by Bruce Chmieleski 16 Apr '20

16 Apr '20

Recommend you read the product tests from the various groups that write about such crafts. According to such tests, boat swamps easily and one cannot re-enter from the water without swamping. Keep that in mind for your typical conditions. Stay safe, Bruce Chmieleski M-15 364 TenderLee Sent by mental telepathy!

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Folding kaysk
by Jon Barber 15 Apr '20

15 Apr '20

Where do I buy one for 299? Sounds like a great deal. Jon Barber Monty17 Ol'44

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Kickstarter Stowable Kayak
by brad kurlancheek 14 Apr '20

14 Apr '20

Just signed up for one. Should fit nicely into the M15 cabin, or under the cockpit seats. Might even be a good backrest against the hull side in cabin. Thanks for the heads up on this John. There's 45 hours left on the campaign as of 2:30 EDT 4/14/20; about 50 of them left. Cost $299, includes paddle. After the campaign their website says the price goes up to about $500. Weighs 28 lbs; set up time looks to be under 5 minutes, and no inflation or deflating involved. On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 2:00 PM < montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Stowable kayak dinghy option for micro-cruisers (John Schinnerer) > 2. Re: Stowable kayak dinghy option for micro-cruisers > (Keith R. Martin) > 3. Re: Stowable kayak dinghy option for micro-cruisers > (John Schinnerer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 11:56:44 -0700 > From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Stowable kayak dinghy option for micro-cruisers > Message-ID: <bc9996fc-7c64-9c00-6f15-30a74bd998b5(a)eco-living.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > If you're looking for a compact one-person 'dinghy' that stores quite > small this might fill the bill: > https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tucktec/tucktec-eco-folding-kayak > > Different material and a couple feet shorter and a squatter shape than > the original Oru folder. > > cheers, > John > > > -- > John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > -------------------------------------------- > - Eco-Living - > Whole Systems Design Services > People - Place - Learning - Integration > john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 > http://eco-living.net > http://sociocracyconsulting.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 12:09:18 -0700 > From: "Keith R. Martin" <keith.richard.martin(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Stowable kayak dinghy option for micro-cruisers > Message-ID: > <CAOQkDszkMD=GUxd9pdkOnBQO_k-i0V=u= > xucV6Sz7wyLno77pw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi John, > > Very cool new product! > I have an older 10ft inflatable which works great as my tender with my > M17, which stows conveniently down the side of a quarter berth. > This looks like a similar sized new option for wrinkle boaters to > consider... > > Keith > > *Keith R. Martin* > > *Vancouver/Burnaby B.C.* > Serenity M17, #353 > *http://www.msogphotosite.com/Scripts/Boats/boatsdetail.php?id=105 > <http://www.msogphotosite.com/Scripts/Boats/boatsdetail.php?id=105>* > > > > On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 at 11:57, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> wrote: > > > If you're looking for a compact one-person 'dinghy' that stores quite > > small this might fill the bill: > > https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tucktec/tucktec-eco-folding-kayak > > > > Different material and a couple feet shorter and a squatter shape than > > the original Oru folder. > > > > cheers, > > John > > > > > > -- > > John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > > -------------------------------------------- > > - Eco-Living - > > Whole Systems Design Services > > People - Place - Learning - Integration > > john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 > > http://eco-living.net > > http://sociocracyconsulting.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 12:41:41 -0700 > From: John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Stowable kayak dinghy option for micro-cruisers > Message-ID: <fe7d5726-4dcb-0964-d8ed-77fe17191a0f(a)eco-living.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Yeah, clever design. > > I am still planning to make an Origami 6+ dinghy (slightly modified in > bow design). But this stows even a bit smaller than that, in length > anyhow. Not sure how viable it would be to deploy from an M17 cockpit > but probably doable. > > My concern is the bow (and stern) seems to have a fold-in triangle open > at the top, with an open seam to the water facing forward. Sitting still > or slow calm water, no problem. But I imagine even minor chop or > motorboat wake would be enough to be forced into the boat, in dribbles > at least, via that route. I just wrote the designer a question about that. > > cheers, > John > > On 4/12/20 12:09 PM, Keith R. Martin wrote: > > Hi John, > > > > Very cool new product! > > I have an older 10ft inflatable which works great as my tender with my > > M17, which stows conveniently down the side of a quarter berth. > > This looks like a similar sized new option for wrinkle boaters to > > consider... > > > > Keith > > > > *Keith R. Martin* > > > > *Vancouver/Burnaby B.C.* > > Serenity M17, #353 > > *http://www.msogphotosite.com/Scripts/Boats/boatsdetail.php?id=105 > > <http://www.msogphotosite.com/Scripts/Boats/boatsdetail.php?id=105>* > > > > > > > > On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 at 11:57, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > wrote: > > > >> If you're looking for a compact one-person 'dinghy' that stores quite > >> small this might fill the bill: > >> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tucktec/tucktec-eco-folding-kayak > >> > >> Different material and a couple feet shorter and a squatter shape than > >> the original Oru folder. > >> > >> cheers, > >> John > >> > >> > >> -- > >> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > >> -------------------------------------------- > >> - Eco-Living - > >> Whole Systems Design Services > >> People - Place - Learning - Integration > >> john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 > >> http://eco-living.net > >> http://sociocracyconsulting.com > >> > >> > > -- > John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > -------------------------------------------- > - Eco-Living - > Whole Systems Design Services > People - Place - Learning - Integration > john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 > http://eco-living.net > http://sociocracyconsulting.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 206, Issue 3 > ************************************************ >

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Stowable kayak dinghy option for micro-cruisers
by John Schinnerer 12 Apr '20

12 Apr '20

If you're looking for a compact one-person 'dinghy' that stores quite small this might fill the bill: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tucktec/tucktec-eco-folding-kayak Different material and a couple feet shorter and a squatter shape than the original Oru folder. cheers, John -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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Re: M_Boats: Sleeping Arrangements on the M15
by Randy Sommerfeld 04 Apr '20

04 Apr '20

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