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Trailer Tongue Weight
by Henry Rodriguez 15 Jan '20

15 Jan '20

Edward: Thank you for the response. The trailer extension I cobbled up consists of a 2’ sleeve U-bolted to the top of the frame near the built-in jack. (I have the original Trail-rite trailer that has a jack coming through the middle of the channel that forms the trailer tongue.) A 7’ extension slides in the bolt-on sleeve. It rides above the original tongue. I would never use the bolted extension for traveling, just for launching and retrieving the boat at the ramp. What I would like to do is cut off the existing coupler and replace it with my extension, allowing it to telescope. It will fit but won’t slide back because the built in jack goes through the tube. I can cut this off (I have added a regular wheeled jack) but it goes right through the center and I don’t have the welding skills to patch and reinforce the big hole removing the jack would leave. Finding a welder to help me with this is on my list of projects for this summer. Re the Odyssey: I have had Chrysler vans since 1986 and never had a problem towing. I towed my 3660 lb VN23 to Lake Havasu (from Minneapolis) and my M17 to Phoenix with my 2012 Town & Country without the slightest problem. I switched to a 2019 Odyssey last year. I am concerned because I found out after I bought the van that the 9 speed transmissions in the latest generation (2018-2020) are problematic. The towing capacity and maximum tongue weight are considerably less than the Chryslers’. I would not consider towing the VN23 with the Odyssey but the M17 falls well within its capacity (once I get the tongue weight sorted out.). I am planning on towing her out to Puget Sound for the Salish 100 and Pocket Yacht Palooza in July. John: I haven’t had Monita weighed at a weigh station yet but that is on my list of things to do before launch this spring. I am fairly confident that her weight is similar to yours but actually getting her weighed will give me some peace of mind. The advertised displacement of my VN23 Chiquita was 2000lb but actual weight with trailer, motor, and minimal gear was 3660lb. I may have to rethink the outboard mount at the forward end of the trailer and possibly move the spare tire mount farther aft to get the tongue weight right. Henry M17 #310 Monita -- Sent from Gmail Mobile

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new owner
by Rob Bultman 15 Jan '20

15 Jan '20

Hi, My name is Rob and I live in Louisville, KY. I learned to sail on the Ohio river about 10 years ago but haven't sailed a ton. I just recently purchase a 1977 M17, hull number 231. The boat can be sailed now, but needs a little work and updating. The previous owner put some effort into fixing leaks, repairing the electrical, and adding LED lights. I'm looking forward to sailing on the Ohio as well as taking the boat to other lakes in the area. I have family that lives on the Potomac and I'm looking forward to sailing there too. Regards, Rob

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Re: M_Boats: new owner
by Rob Bultman 14 Jan '20

14 Jan '20

Thanks for the warm welcome. Tom, I did see what you have done with AS-IS. That, and the other project photos, as well as the info on the non-pics site, are inspirational. So glad I found this community. Regards, Rob

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Newsletters, and CB Winch
by Thomas Howe 03 Jan '20

03 Jan '20

I believe that I have a number of the old pre- digital printed Montgomery newsletters, and I am planning to scan and post. Where would you like to see them? I am a FaceBookPhobe, but that seems like a place where we can have a repository of documents. On the last day of my sailing season, and on the last act before she went onto the trailer, my sailing buddy raised the centerboard, and then was startled to have the winch fall to the cabin floor. The Nylon base of the Arco 6 failed, and sheared off it's mounting plate. I corresponded with Hutton-Arco of Australia, and secured a new replacement, which unlike any of the other replacements that I looked at, has a bronze base and core, instead of Nylon. The purchase process was simple, except for the time that it took to get here from the antipodes. I'll report on it's operation sometime into 2020. BTW, I am in favor of the status quo in regards to the mailing list, if it ain't broke..... Thomas Howe Osprey II, 1985 Montgomery 17 #666

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Re: M_Boats: Archives
by kdiehl 02 Jan '20

02 Jan '20

Here's a quote from January, 1999 that seems just as apt for the 2020 New Year."And --- on a personal note, thanks to Dennis Farrell for his quote:"In a power boat, you get there in a hurry, in a sailboat, you are alreadythere"It made my day.Don HaasDream Catcher, M15-248" null

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Re: M_Boats: Archives
by kdiehl 02 Jan '20

02 Jan '20

My phone email client just doesn't format well. That link is.. ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/montgomery_boats/archive/ null

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Archives
by kdiehl 02 Jan '20

02 Jan '20

When discussing archives, don't overlook the really old ones at ftp://ftp.xmission.com/pub/lists/montgomery_boats/archive/That link appears on the list info page, but is easily missed. https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Merry Christmas
by Larry Yake 02 Jan '20

02 Jan '20

Merry Christmas to all my sailing friends out there! Hope you all have a wonderful day and a fantastic New Year with many fine days enjoying the wind and the water. Larry Yake M17 CornDog

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Re: M_Boats: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 202, Issue 5
by Rusty Knorr 02 Jan '20

02 Jan '20

You should be using the groups io site instead of this! www.rustyknorr.weebly.com > On Dec 31, 2019, at 11:00 AM, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Lake Pleasant Winter Messabout February 15-17, 2020 > (Gary Oberbeck) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:04:48 +0000 (UTC) > From: Gary Oberbeck <gilasailr(a)aol.com> > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: M_Boats: Lake Pleasant Winter Messabout February 15-17, 2020 > Message-ID: <1465411281.3237281.1577739888241(a)mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > | Your hosts have been 'busy' this year, but things have settled in to normal and we are ready for the > > Second Annual Lake Pleasant Winter Messabout > > Photo from 2019 event - > > The Second Annual Lake Pleasant Winter Messabout will convene at the same location as 2019 -Lake Pleasant Arizona - Fireman's Cove area, on February 15th 2020! > > > > All small human/sail powered craft to 20 feet are invited! No one is 'enforcing' this so if you are a bit larger...meh? - One participant will be sailing a 7 footer! > > Water levels look excellent - Shore camping and or spend the evenings onboard at the protected cove adjacent to the camp area.'Events' will consist of *Point to point sail 'races' for bragging rights and or touring for the non-competitive crews.* Excursion for lunch to remote water access only cove. > Evening campfires for socializing ashore, and group cooking can be arranged.Paved launch ramp/Parking and Restrooms approx. 1/4 mile< from the campsite. > > Watch for more info. > fairandsquare1 at G mail .com for questions > > Thanks, Take Care, Happy New Year, Have fUn, come Sailing!! > > GO | > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 202, Issue 5 > ************************************************

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group.io migration?
by David Grah 01 Jan '20

01 Jan '20

Some thoughts: 1. What we currently have works and, as pointed out one could argue what isn't broken shouldn't be fixed. 2. The social or community aspect of this group is valuable. Even though there isn't much activity, the messages that go back and forth do help hold our community together. 3. Separate from the community aspect, there is a great opportunity to learn from past discussions and I think it is important to have access to past discussions so we don't have to reinvent the wheel like we would if the past discussions were lost. 4. Images can really help the discussion along and, for me, images have not worked in the digest version I follow for several years. 5. I think it would be reasonable to stay right where we are and continue to be thankful for the effort in takes to keep the list working. 6. I also think it would be reasonable to move to a newer platform and bet we will be forced to at some point. If we move to a different platform, I really think a way to access past discussions has to be part of the move. 7. I participate in a sailplane group that recently moved from Yahoo to groups.io and that has been fine. Happy new year! David GrahMontgomery 15Bishop California Message: 2 Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 13:18:43 -0800 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> To: Rusty Knorr <rustyinafrica(a)yahoo.com>, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: group.io migration? Message-ID: <CAGjBOA6bMfYO+Yr0kvkXSLt3Go692RwR68Mr93FjrwkGk1o9iQ(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Rusty and others: Groups.io does essentially the same service as what we currently have through mailman software on xmission. the groups.io interface is nicer when visiting the groups www-site.. i don't know how much data (ie archives size) the email group has. over 1GB means minimum charge of $220/year for storage on groups.io. migrating the members is a challenge. my experience is a group hostingand/or software change results in significant loss in group membership - like 85-90% for the i've taken part in a 'move'!!! i also hate the idea of loosing the archives (though the recent data isn't currently being saved as I understand, only the really old stuff has been retained). i don't know if groups.io can transition anything in the mailman database. based on the yahoo.groups changes these last few months at minimum the charge will be $220. the list isn't heavily used. the participation rate has really fallen off since about 2014/15. most of the activity is on the group site on Facebook (link - https://www.facebook.com/groups/330782353662726/ ) thoughts from the members? :: Dave Scobie :: SV SWALLOW - https://sv-swallow.com :: Montgomery 6'8" #650 :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ :: former M17 owner #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com/> :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred

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