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Hey there
by sailhavasu 14 Apr '22

14 Apr '22

Sean here from Lake Havasu. I’ve subscribed and am now once again receiving the emails of posts, however the list server will not allow me to access the archives to see all emails. It says it does not recognize my email , however , the email I’m using to try to sign in is the same email I’m receiving emails from the list server for individual posts. Could whoever the moderator is these days help me out? My email is sailhavasu(a)aol.com Thank you !

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Paging Sean Mulligan
by bownez＠juno.com 14 Apr '22

14 Apr '22

Sean, Are you a Monty owner again?? A red hulled M17? Former owner, M boater Michael "Bones" Bowden Mpls M17 M23 M6.8

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Re: Paging Sean Mulligan
by bownez＠juno.com 05 Apr '22

05 Apr '22

Hi Henry, Yea, I figured that. I don't do social media but I have seen some of the pics. Your M17 looks fabulous as well! You'll be slashing soon on good old Minnetonka! Be well. Michael

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Water Leaking in Bilge
by Jim Ellsworth 04 Apr '22

04 Apr '22

I sold my M-17 a while ago and the new owner had a barrier coat and bottom paint applied including removing the centerboard and replacing. The boat was launched and taken to her slip. She noticed water in the bilge pumped it out but it filled up the next day and she pumped it again. She can't find the source so I am reaching out here to see if anyone has experienced this. The boat is a Bob boat built in 2000. She got underneath the cockpit and can not find any water leaking inside the hull and draining into the bilge. One possibility was the tube the centerboard line goes through but She does not think that is the issue either. I owned the boat since 2008 and has been on the hard for about 6 years. During my ownership I have not experienced this and she has never been beached, knocked anything on the bottom etc. so this is quite surprising. Any help or ideas would be appreciated. Jim Ellsworth Scamp #282 Crawford Melonseed #550 Prior Owner M-17 #603

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mailing list
by Daniel Boyd 02 Apr '22

02 Apr '22

please remove me from the mailing list. I bought a Catalina 18 MKII Thank you, Daniel Boyd

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Re: new battery
by Dave Scobie 29 Mar '22

29 Mar '22

Daniel: On my M17 I used a Costco deep cycle wet lead group 24. Was 9 years old and working fine when I sold SWEET PEA. I set up most of the Sage 17s with either wet cell or AGM group 24s. Found West Marine a good option as if any problems can easy find a store for warranty support. On the second SageCat, first production boat, I set up an electrical system that used a small U-1 AGM battery. Was fine for a 3-day 'weekend' of electricity. LiFePO4 batteries are an option but require a new charging system along with battery management if you are replacing a lead type battery. Prices are dropping, reliability is increasing, and if you get the rated lifetime out of the battery are cheaper over lifetime v lead types. LiFePO4 also provided more power in less space and weight. In addition you also need to make a decision on how much power you will use, and how and how often you will regenerate power. I spent 10 weeks on my M17 and using a 30watt solar panel had plenty of electricity for my simple needs (less than 8amps used each 24 hours). :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new site! On Tue, Mar 29, 2022, 10:50 AM Daniel Boyd <boyddaniel(a)hotmail.com> wrote: ... any recommendations for a new battery? ________________________________

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M boat lifting sling
by Jon Barber 29 Mar '22

29 Mar '22

I found this drawing online. It is for a 17. I would use a piece of 4x6 df with thru bolted eyes, one on each end and one on the opposite side in the middle. It should be a bit shorter than the length of the keel. Hang it from the crane and use 3" wide ratchet straps, one in front and one in back of the keel. You can rig it and then use the ratchets to adjust the load. I think the straps are rated at 1650# each, so they are over kill. That's OK. Lifting my boat I want over kill! I have never done this! Use at your own risk! Jon Barber Monty17 Ol'44

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M15 hoist lifting bridle or sling
by David Grah 25 Mar '22

25 Mar '22

Hey there, Tyler. I have no experience with hoists (though have been interested in the hoist at Avila Beach since there is no ramp there either) though remember when I repainted the bottom of my Montgomery 15, and based on recommendations from this group, I lifted from the rear holes on the "chain plate" brackets the shrouds connect to. That left the boat a little stern-heavy so I needed something to provide a little bit of support to hold the stern up. Although loads for this purpose were almost static compared to what might be somewhat dynamic loads on a hoist, it worked well. I suppose this same approach could work with a hoist. David GrahBishop California Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 13:33:10 -0700 (PDT) From: casioqv(a)usermail.com Subject: M_Boats: M15 hoist lifting bridle or sling To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Message-ID: <646072963.340598461.1648153990259.JavaMail.zimbra(a)usermail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi All, My yacht club doesn't have a boat ramp, but does have a hoist for lifting sailboats that I am interested in trying with my M15. The hoist is a single point (hook). Does anyone here have any experience or suggestions on what type of lifting bridle or sling I could use for an M15? Would it be okay to lift by the chainplates, or should I plan on straps that go under the hull? Sincerely, Tyler '81 M15 #157 Defiant

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Help with selling modified M 15
by abkeeton 21 Mar '22

21 Mar '22

Hello,I bought the Montgomery 15 many years ago. I have stored it in the garage and never sailed it.Recently, I decided to put the boat up for sale. I discovered that a previous owner had cut the inside of the starboard locker so he could lift it out to access storage underneath. I have since seen postings on this. Some people think it's a good idea to put the anchor in there.No one I have spoken with can understand why someone would cut the fiberglass and it's killing potential sales.Should I have the locker restored?Please respond to my email address.Thanks much,Ann Keeton Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

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Re: Help with selling modified M 15
by Dave Scobie 21 Mar '22

21 Mar '22

Thanks for sharing that picture Ann. You have a mess from the prior owner that results in really poor presentation with a have removed non-professional looking job. The pan needs to be removed and the edges sanded so they are straight and not sharp. See three pictures attached for how the locker should look (or look at the slideshow I have showing my M15 - https://m15namedscred.wordpress.com/slideshow-tour-of-scred/ ) :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new site! On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 2:24 PM abkeeton <abkeeton(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > When potential buyers see the cuts inside of the locker, they are alarmed. > One guy thought the locker must have been cut in order to fix damage to the > hull underneath. > Another guy wanted me to knock off $1,000 because the boat is damaged. > > > > Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> > Date: 3/21/22 4:07 PM (GMT-06:00) > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Cc: abkeeton(a)yahoo.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Help with selling modified M 15 > > Ann: > > Do you mean the cockpit locker pan? The pan that means you can't see the > inside of the hull when looking into the cockpit locker? > > My M15 had BOTH port and starboard cockpit locker pans removed. It was > great and allowed for effective storage of the ground tackle, fenders, dock > lines, etc. See link to my M15s www-site below. > > Someone(s) stating that 'you can't' have the pans cut out and use the > lockers???!!! Really??!! > > Most M17s don't have locker pans on the port side. > > All Sage 15s/17s/SCs don't have locker pans. > > (My Baba30 doesn't have locker pans.) > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: M6'8" #650 > :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU > :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com > :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com > :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new > site! > > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 1:53 PM abkeeton via montgomery_boats < > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > >> Hello,I bought the Montgomery 15 many years ago. I have stored it in the >> garage and never sailed it.Recently, I decided to put the boat up for sale. >> I discovered that a previous owner had cut the inside of the starboard >> locker so he could lift it out to access storage underneath. I have since >> seen postings on this. Some people think it's a good idea to put the anchor >> in there.No one I have spoken with can understand why someone would cut the >> fiberglass and it's killing potential sales.Should I have the locker >> restored?Please respond to my email address.Thanks much,Ann Keeton Sent >> from Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > > >

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