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REGESTRATION DECALS
by George R. Iemmolo 22 Apr '13

22 Apr '13

Is it better to adhere Registration Decals prior to cleaning & waxing the hull or after cleaning but prior to waxing? Admiral Mary Helen has named the boat:-) George M15 @602 Merry Helen II

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Re: M_Boats: M17 Flushdeck for sale
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 17 Apr '13

17 Apr '13

The boat is in Lake Havasu City, AZ I have already had 3 inquiries so far. I listed her on numerous websites, ....but no takers as of yet. She still needs a little work...but is going to make someone a nice boat....when the price is right.

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M17 Flushdeck for sale
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 17 Apr '13

17 Apr '13

Montgomery 17 Flushdeck for sale One of only 9 ever built. Sneakers needs a home. Hey guys. There are a lot of things going on here a the Mulligan house and some changes of direction and priority and attitude changes for me as well. I also need to lessen the number of un-finished projects I have around here. Some of them are so close to being finished it isn’t funny….Sneakers being on of them. However….every project takes cash and time, two things that always seem to be in short supply. The good news is that the major work on Sneakers is complete. The glasswork , keel, and centerboard are good to go and they were huge projects. She is in need of a paint job still….I have the paint. She has a new rudder, and useable sails. The trailer is ugly but serviceable. The bottom is barrier coated and complete. So here’s the deal….Starting today…Sneakers is for sale for $5000.00. The price will drop by $100/day until she finds a new owner. I hate to do this…but I need her to go. Eventually we will hit a price point where someone will scarf her up and finish up making a great boat out of her. I will also include the 6hp Johnson motor that I got when I bought her. It has been gone through cosmetically and mechanically and you can see it run at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSN_kG59GT4 Pictures of the restoration process of Sneakers are available here.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sailhavasu/sets/72157633158969944/ If you are interested email me at _sailhavasu(a)aol.com_ (mailto:sailhavasu@aol.com) I will discuss with you in detail everything I know about and have done to Sneakers, Depending on the sales price…..I would consider discussions on assisting with delivery anywhere in the US…..IF you are willing to pay all the expenses. I have an F-350 dually that is thirsty and gets about 8mpg with my camper and a boat onboard….so it’s not really all that cheap….but probably cheaper than commercially shipping or taking the time off from work yourself and paying all the costs associated.

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HONDA 2 HP Outboard for sale
by Conbert Benneck 15 Apr '13

15 Apr '13

Hi Gang, This morning in the Sunday edition of the HARTFORD COURANT newspaper I saw an ad that I felt might be of interest to someone in the M-group. It read: "HONDA O/B 2 hp run 2X new $499.99 860-550-3682" This is a Hartford, CT number. Connie

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M15 OB
by George R. Iemmolo 14 Apr '13

14 Apr '13

I have a 3HP short shaft Yamaha that came with the boat. Looking at it I see that it does not have a shift lever of any sort not even a neutral to keep the boat from moving at the start up of the motor. Does any one have a similar situation and how do you cope coming in to a dock, starting up, etc? What do most of you use on a M15? George M15 #602 NoNameYet

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M-10 sailplan
by jerry montgomery 12 Apr '13

12 Apr '13

Someone asked me about a sailplan for the M-10 a few months ago. I just found the master and ran off some copies, but I can't find his address. If he still needs one I hope he sees this! My address is jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org jerry -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 8393 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen

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Mastgates
by Rick Davies 12 Apr '13

12 Apr '13

I'm thinking of installing a pair of external gates from Mastgates.com on my mast, which has a double-sided slot. Anyone out there have experience with these? Seems as if they'd be a big help in reefing underway. Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks, Rick M17 #633 Lynne L

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Tiller clutches and/or autopilots?
by Dan Richman 11 Apr '13

11 Apr '13

i'm trying to decide whether to install the nifty TillerClutch, from WaveFront, on my m-17. it's a beautifully made piece of gear. but in the past, i've used similar devices and they failed to hold the boat on course. not even close, even though they were properly installed. it's not that the clutch slipped; it's that the boat's balance seemed to be thrown off too much by my moving around. i plan to add a raymarine st1000+ autopilot soon, and my thinking was that that would maintain a good course despite my movements, since it corrects itself to hold a set heading. i was thinking i'd just use the autopilot rather than the tiller clutch. but then again, the autopilot uses up power, while the clutch does not. does anyone have experience using the clutch, the autopilot, or both? if both, when do you use one and when the other? thanks for your thoughts. dan -- Dan Richman DanielARichman(a)gmail.com 5039 View Road Langley, WA 98260 USA Home: 360-221-6216 Cell: 360-949-3234

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Level Boat
by George R. Iemmolo 11 Apr '13

11 Apr '13

I believe I read somewhere that the cockpit floor was tilted toward the bow and water would drain out thru the centerboard line hole. If this is true can one use the cockpit seats as a point to determine it the boat is level while on the trailer? Or are they also tilted to the bow? I want to get the mast set up with approximately 5'-6' of rake per Jerry's rigging instructions on the MSOG site. Of what use is the cockpit drain if above is true and you are not pooped? George M15 #602 NoNameYet

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Re: M_Boats: M-23
by edarts93＠earthlink.net 11 Apr '13

11 Apr '13

Sean, If you get flamed then I'm right in line beside you! I trailer with the motor on as well. My body doesn't like trying to wrestle the motor onto the bracket. My boat has seen 20 years and many thousands of miles with no transom issues. I do, however, securely strap the motor to the transom with sturdy nylon web straps that attach to well backed padeyes thus distributing the load across a broader area of the transom as well as preventing any shock loads caused by 'bouncing' of the motor due to road irregularities. All this towing was done with the stock outboard bracket that came from Jerry on my M23 which was only through bolted through a reinforced area of the transom with 1 inch washers for backing plates. This winter I have installed a new outboard bracket (requiring new holes to be drilled of course) and added some beefier backing plates. I expect this to continue to serve well for many more years of trailering and sailing. I always removed the outboard from my M17 as well as the M15 but those are much lighter and more easily handled. We'll see if I continue to do that as I age or if I opt for motorless sailing for the olden years. I do tip my mast forward to raise it but I use an aluminum A frame that I designed and built that makes it a simple, easily handled, one man job to safely raise and lower the mast. I originally used the gin-pole method because that was how the previous owner had the boat set up. I didn't like it for a number of reasons including safety and peace of mind. My trailer has a long tongue extension that someone fabricated. It isn't as sophisticated as yours (my surge brake actuator gets dunked), but I find it essential for launching. Mark Dvorscak (also drinking milk past the expiration date and removing mattress tags) M23 Faith M15 ??? -----Original Message----- >From: Nebwest2(a)aol.com >Sent: Apr 10, 2013 11:13 PM >To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >Subject: Re: M_Boats: M-23 > >Hey Todd... > >The Pacifics come with an extendable tongue on the >trailer....however...it's not that long. I made a second 11' extension that I swap out for the >regular extendable tongue when I launch. It has two benefits...keeps me from >having to back the truck in too far...and also...I never dunk the brake >controller....as it is on the tongue that is removed. After 8 years I have had >no brake issues that normally occur when you dunk your surge brake >controller and it gulps water in its air vent. > >I am not a fan of tipping the mast forward....and have an a-frame system >to go backwards instead. I know the original setup uses the boom as a gin >pole arrangement and goes forward and the chainplates are cut for that. I >didn't like that for a number of reasons. I have had a $50,000 mast >lowering/raising incident that involved great discomfort, almost losing my career, >surgery, and an air-e-vac ride to Las Vegas in the middle of the night (this >was not with the M23)...so I play it pretty conservative these days. The >M23's rig is very heavy compared to similarly sized boats...caution is the >word of the day when dealing with that mast. :-) > >Here...I will really shake it up and start some conversation...... I tow >with the outboard in place on the transom rather than move it to a trailer >mount or put it in the truck. Oh I will be burned a the stake for saying >that and my transom will fall off, delaminate, explode, my wife will leave me, >a thousand locusts will descend upon me ...or something...LOL... but I do > it..... and have done it with an over 100lb outboard for 25,000 miles and > around 8 years now. My back and neck appreciate it and the boat so far >does not seem to mind. It's also another time saving at the ramp, and rigging >the 23 you can use all the saving you can get. I have however, installed a >first class 4 stroke mount and it is bolted through large stainless backing >plates to distribute the load. I do not recommend that anyone else do >it....just what I do and what works for me. :-) > >Between the fact I tow with the outboard on the transom....and the fact >that I use, love, and swear by surge brakes...... OMG all the humanity....let >the flaming begin. LOL > >S > >PS > >I also ripped the tag off the mattress, swam less than 30 minutes after >eating, set my car batteries on concrete, and drank the milk after the >expiration date as well.... why? BECAUSE I AM CRAAAAAAAAAZY! ;-)

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