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Updates of boats for sale/wanted on Montgomery site
by Becky Belding 27 Jul '13

27 Jul '13

Hi, It's great that there is a page on the Montgomery owners site for boats sale/wanted, but I have made numerous requests to have a past AD #875 removed with no response. It would be nice to look through the Ads/postings without sorting through ones that are from a year or more ago. Any suggestions on who I need to contact to get my wanted posting removed? Many thanks, Becky Sent from my iPad

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by Nebwest2＠aol.com 27 Jul '13

27 Jul '13

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Re: M_Boats: Deck paint
by Bruce Ward 26 Jul '13

26 Jul '13

I also used Kiwigrip for renewing my non-skid on cerulea. It is an excellent product . You apply it with a stucco roller that raises little nibs of the acrcrylic.

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Re: M_Boats: New member introduction
by EinkaufR43＠aol.com 25 Jul '13

25 Jul '13

Hi Carol; I'm another Michigan Monty owner checking in to compliment you on your family M17. Mine is M15 #249, a Michigan boat all its life. My sailing is primarily on Saginaw Bay. Welcome! Ron, near Saginaw In a message dated 7/24/2013 12:35:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, carollynbarber(a)gmail.com writes: Hi, my name is Carol and I grew up sailing a Montgomery 17 along the Gulf Coast of Tx with my dad. After he passed, the boat sat for nearly 15 years, but I'm proud to report that she has been resurected! Although I had not sailed in over 20 years, my husband and I have made it our mission to make her seaworthy and learn to sail her. We are in Michigan and we primarily stick to inland lakes, but look forward to gaining enough experience and confidence to tackle the Great Lakes! And what an amazing boat! We are overwhelmed by the compliments we get on her.

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Re: M_Boats: Mast failure
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 24 Jul '13

24 Jul '13

George, Look for stainless toggles and studs with bronze bodies (usually chrome plated). Jerry M. can supply these I believe. The stainless on the bronze doesn't gall when tensioned as the 'stainless on stainless' will. GO In a message dated 7/23/2013 8:14:27 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, griemmolo2(a)gmail.com writes: Thanks for all the feedback. I will be looking at open turnbuckles again. I did start out with them but when one broke during mast raising (because it was not SS) I could only purchase SS in closed body. In the meantime I am using lock nuts and tape with inspection prior to and after sailing. Keith let me know if this went thru with only one address George 'We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust our Sails' -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of GILASAILR(a)aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:35 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Mast failure +1 on open body turnbuckles. Lock nuts on closed body t-buckles are not a good solution. GO In a message dated 7/23/2013 4:24:30 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, chbenneck(a)sbcglobal.net writes: On 23-Jul-13 2:27 PM, George Iemmolo wrote: Hi George, Replace your closed body turnbuckles with open body turn buckles. Then you can see where the threads are, and they should have holes at the ends so that you can insert cotter pins and know that they are secure. It's a small price to pay for safety and security. Connie > Larry > > I have had turnbuckles that were made that way but they were open body the > ones I have now are closed body and you can not get to threads internal to > the body. I guess one could drill the hole at the other end of the threads. > Tape seems to be doing the trick right now. > > George > Merry Helen II M15 #602 > 'We Can Not Control the Wind > But We Can Adjust our Sails' > > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of > Hughston, Larry@DGS > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 10:26 AM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Mast failure > > I have seen a few owners drill a very small hole in the thread ends of the > turnbuckle. A small ss cotter pin is then inserted into the drilled holes. > If the cotter pin is large enough the turnbuckle will not back out since it > can't turn. This all assumes that you do not make frequent adjustments on > the stays. Just my $.02 worth.....Larry and "Old 189" M-15 in Sacramento, > Ca > > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of George > Iemmolo > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 7:53 PM > To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Mast failure > > OUCH IS RIGHT > > I can relate had the port turnbuckle come loose and mast came down with boat > in slip on 2nd day in water:-( Mast was not damaged so was able to raise > mast and have now taped turnbuckles to prevent nuts backing out. Now check > every time prior to and after sailing:-) > > George > Merry Helen II M15 #602 > 'We Can Not Control the Wind > But We Can Adjust our Sails' > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tony Cox > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:26 PM > To: Ronald McNeil; For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Mast failure > > Roger that Ron, not a fun day. > > Thanks > Tony Cox > M-17 294 > > > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Ronald McNeil > <ronaldwmcneil(a)yahoo.com>wrote: > >> Och! That happened to us on my buddy's Windrose 18 last year. In our >> case both turnbuckles on the port side came undone one right after the > other. >> Not a fun day. >> >> Regards, >> Ron McNeil >> M17 675 >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Tony Cox <cox.tjg(a)gmail.com> >> To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 5:51 PM >> Subject: M_Boats: Mast failure >> >> >> Unfortunately had mast failure today on my M-17. Portside lowerstay > snapped >> at the speader, then it all came down. Need a new mast and should >> replace the standing rigging. Jerry, you out there? >> Where do you suggest I go? >> >> Tony Cox >> M-17 #294 >> > > > > >

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Re: M_Boats: Mast failure
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 23 Jul '13

23 Jul '13

+1 on open body turnbuckles. Lock nuts on closed body t-buckles are not a good solution. GO In a message dated 7/23/2013 4:24:30 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, chbenneck(a)sbcglobal.net writes: On 23-Jul-13 2:27 PM, George Iemmolo wrote: Hi George, Replace your closed body turnbuckles with open body turn buckles. Then you can see where the threads are, and they should have holes at the ends so that you can insert cotter pins and know that they are secure. It's a small price to pay for safety and security. Connie > Larry > > I have had turnbuckles that were made that way but they were open body the > ones I have now are closed body and you can not get to threads internal to > the body. I guess one could drill the hole at the other end of the threads. > Tape seems to be doing the trick right now. > > George > Merry Helen II M15 #602 > 'We Can Not Control the Wind > But We Can Adjust our Sails' > > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of > Hughston, Larry@DGS > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 10:26 AM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Mast failure > > I have seen a few owners drill a very small hole in the thread ends of the > turnbuckle. A small ss cotter pin is then inserted into the drilled holes. > If the cotter pin is large enough the turnbuckle will not back out since it > can't turn. This all assumes that you do not make frequent adjustments on > the stays. Just my $.02 worth.....Larry and "Old 189" M-15 in Sacramento, > Ca > > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of George > Iemmolo > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 7:53 PM > To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Mast failure > > OUCH IS RIGHT > > I can relate had the port turnbuckle come loose and mast came down with boat > in slip on 2nd day in water:-( Mast was not damaged so was able to raise > mast and have now taped turnbuckles to prevent nuts backing out. Now check > every time prior to and after sailing:-) > > George > Merry Helen II M15 #602 > 'We Can Not Control the Wind > But We Can Adjust our Sails' > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tony Cox > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:26 PM > To: Ronald McNeil; For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Mast failure > > Roger that Ron, not a fun day. > > Thanks > Tony Cox > M-17 294 > > > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Ronald McNeil > <ronaldwmcneil(a)yahoo.com>wrote: > >> Och! That happened to us on my buddy's Windrose 18 last year. In our >> case both turnbuckles on the port side came undone one right after the > other. >> Not a fun day. >> >> Regards, >> Ron McNeil >> M17 675 >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Tony Cox <cox.tjg(a)gmail.com> >> To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com >> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 5:51 PM >> Subject: M_Boats: Mast failure >> >> >> Unfortunately had mast failure today on my M-17. Portside lowerstay > snapped >> at the speader, then it all came down. Need a new mast and should >> replace the standing rigging. Jerry, you out there? >> Where do you suggest I go? >> >> Tony Cox >> M-17 #294 >> > > > > >

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Re: M_Boats: Deck paint
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 23 Jul '13

23 Jul '13

if you are talking about non-skid areas ......I used Kiwi Grip and I have been very satisfied with it. I would use it again.

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Mast failure
by Tony Cox 23 Jul '13

23 Jul '13

Unfortunately had mast failure today on my M-17. Portside lowerstay snapped at the speader, then it all came down. Need a new mast and should replace the standing rigging. Jerry, you out there? Where do you suggest I go? Tony Cox M-17 #294

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Photo of pins in turnbuckle was 'Mast Failure'
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 23 Jul '13

23 Jul '13

J/24 High Speed Pins (Scar Pins) High Speed Pins Sold in packs of 8 Stop fumbling with your ring dings. Replace them with HS pins for quicker rig adjustments. Insert in threaded stud hole and secure with attached double-sided Velcro. Won't snag kites either. Sold in packs of eight. _OBHSP03_ (http://www.apsltd.com/p-7793-332-scar-pins-8.aspx) 3/32 Scar Pins (8) Price: $19.95 check prices as they vary widely - APS is where I shop for them -NFIW. GO

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Montgomery's on Kauai
by Thomas Nixon 22 Jul '13

22 Jul '13

I'm on Kauai for a couple of weeks. I have an M-17 at home in California that I'm getting ready for the water. Any Montgomery owners on Kiaui that feel like going for a sail? Tom Nixon Sent from my iPad

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