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Re: M_Boats: New Members, Roger & Debbie Miner
by bownez＠juno.com 05 Feb '14

05 Feb '14

Roger and Debbie, Welcome to the M23 club! You will love your new boat. Bones M23 #75 Dhana Frozen Minnesota ____________________________________________________________ Fast, Secure, NetZero 4G Mobile Broadband. Try it. http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT2

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Calling Mark H.
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 05 Feb '14

05 Feb '14

Tall rig - nice addition to your future Montgomery 17 here in AZ - see previous post - M-17 for sale.

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New Members, Roger & Debbie Miner
by Roger Miner 05 Feb '14

05 Feb '14

Hello everyone. My wife Debbie and I are the proud owners of "Seranita", a beautifully restored 1977 M-17 (tall rig, galley model). We live on a great windy sailing lake (Keystone) just west of Tulsa, Oklahoma. We moved back to Oklahoma to help out with family after having lived aboard a 31 Cape Dory Cutter in Corpus Christie, TX. Although a big change, we've come to love our Montgomery. These are fast, stable and versatile boats - so easy to handle. Keystone is a large Corp lake with great open water and tons of interesting overnight spots with sandy beaches. Our M-17 has been the perfect boat to help us regain our inland water legs. But, it's been a little over two years and now we are hankering to spend more extended time aboard, exploring coastal waters. So, we've made a deal to purchase another lovingly restored Montgomery, the M-23 "Dream Time", from John and Julie Muller. They have done an incredible job with Dream Time (as chronicled by them on this website), and we are beyond excited to be her new owners. We'll be going out to John and Julie's in Bend, Oregon in June to close our deal and begin a summer adventure to Seattle and ports north. We appreciate your website and the great wealth of information provided by all of you owners and lovers of the great Montgomery boats. Seranita will be appearing for sale soon in the classifieds so, if you know someone looking for a perfect M-17, please pass it along. Glad to be in the Montgomery fold. Roger & Debbie Miner

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Re: M_Boats: Rigging a 79 M17
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 05 Feb '14

05 Feb '14

Henry, I vote for 'Rosita' ' Ask someone (rigger) what the implications are for using the dyneema with your sheaves - they probably need to be 'cleaned up' (deburred) at least and may be better in a larger diameter? Backstay of dyneema is a good idea - will change mine when the time comes. Will send pictures of our deck/rigging next time I visit the boat. Remember - snow melts...runs off into waterways... and nurtures our watercourses and farmland/forests - we get little rain in the desert - no snow and have rocks and spiny hard plants here with very small and few waterways - BUT I LOVE IT! Lemons into Lemonade thing I guess. Hope the melt comes soon! Take Care Have Fun, Get ready to go sailing! GHenryO - great NAMES think alike! {:>) In a message dated 2/4/2014 2:14:22 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, heinzir(a)gmail.com writes: Thanks for all of the encouragement on my new purchase everyone. I can't wait to get my hands on her. Right now she is plowed in by snow on a farm several hundred miles north of here, and our winter does not seem as if it will ever end. I really envy you guys that are able to sail year round! Thanks, Gary, for the detailed description of how you have rigged your boat. I have had the same 6:1 tackle on a split backstay arrangement on Chiquita for a long time, using the same blocks as you do. Great minds think alike . . . . ??? I will be doing the same on the Monty. I'll probably replace the backstay with Dyneema (easier to coil than wire and easier on the deck/mast when trailering.) I too like the idea of no traveller; that's why I have dual main sheets on Chiquita. I'd like to try your split tail arrangement. I plan on having a 6:1 (3:1 cascaded) tack downhaul for the jib, led back to the cockpit, as well as a jib dowsing downhaul, and an 8:1 (4:1 cascaded) Cunningham or boom downhaul for the main. I should be able to cobble these up from blocks I have on hand. I should also be able to piece together an internal 6:1 outhaul in the boom. The main halyard has some meat hooks and I plan to replace the wire portion of both halyards with 1/8" Dyneema. Will I have to replace the masthead sheaves if they are otherwise in good shape? I'm not sure what I'll do about jib sheet anchors. Both jib and staysail sheet to the cabin top on Chiquita; there are no winches. I use Harken 150 cam cleats with the Xtreme fairleads that allow adjustment from anywhere in the cockpit. I'd love to see pictures of various M17 deck layouts; no point in reinventing the wheel. Might have to sail her a bit to see what feels right before making any changes there. Chiquita is still a work in progress and we've been together for 38 years! I think the new M17 will be the same. What do you all think of the name "Rosita"? Means "little rose" and rhymes with Chiquita (and Bonita ;-) Or "Half Pint"? Or . . . . . ??? -- Henry https://picasaweb.google.com/heinzir

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Rigging a 79 M17
by Henry Rodriguez 04 Feb '14

04 Feb '14

Thanks for all of the encouragement on my new purchase everyone. I can't wait to get my hands on her. Right now she is plowed in by snow on a farm several hundred miles north of here, and our winter does not seem as if it will ever end. I really envy you guys that are able to sail year round! Thanks, Gary, for the detailed description of how you have rigged your boat. I have had the same 6:1 tackle on a split backstay arrangement on Chiquita for a long time, using the same blocks as you do. Great minds think alike . . . . ??? I will be doing the same on the Monty. I'll probably replace the backstay with Dyneema (easier to coil than wire and easier on the deck/mast when trailering.) I too like the idea of no traveller; that's why I have dual main sheets on Chiquita. I'd like to try your split tail arrangement. I plan on having a 6:1 (3:1 cascaded) tack downhaul for the jib, led back to the cockpit, as well as a jib dowsing downhaul, and an 8:1 (4:1 cascaded) Cunningham or boom downhaul for the main. I should be able to cobble these up from blocks I have on hand. I should also be able to piece together an internal 6:1 outhaul in the boom. The main halyard has some meat hooks and I plan to replace the wire portion of both halyards with 1/8" Dyneema. Will I have to replace the masthead sheaves if they are otherwise in good shape? I'm not sure what I'll do about jib sheet anchors. Both jib and staysail sheet to the cabin top on Chiquita; there are no winches. I use Harken 150 cam cleats with the Xtreme fairleads that allow adjustment from anywhere in the cockpit. I'd love to see pictures of various M17 deck layouts; no point in reinventing the wheel. Might have to sail her a bit to see what feels right before making any changes there. Chiquita is still a work in progress and we've been together for 38 years! I think the new M17 will be the same. What do you all think of the name "Rosita"? Means "little rose" and rhymes with Chiquita (and Bonita ;-) Or "Half Pint"? Or . . . . . ??? -- Henry https://picasaweb.google.com/heinzir

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New Minneapolis Monty owner
by Steven B Lindeman 04 Feb '14

04 Feb '14

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Re: M_Boats: Minnesota Monty's
by bownez＠juno.com 04 Feb '14

04 Feb '14

Good to see you're still around Chad! (and have two M Boats). Bones ____________________________________________________________ How to Sleep Like a Rock Obey this one natural trick to fall asleep and stay asleep all night. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/52ed098bc5b698a6d60st01vuc

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Re: M_Boats: SageCat?
by W David Scobie 01 Feb '14

01 Feb '14

Steve: the SageCat is the catboat version of the Sage 15 currently under development. the S15 will be available as a sloop or a catboat ... owner chooses rig when ordering; or can convert from one sail plan to another by purchasing another standing rig. drawings and details available on the Sage Marine forum - http://www.sagemarine.us/forum/forumdisplay.php?12 :: Dave Scobie :: Sage Marine -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 2/1/14, stevetrapp <stevetrapp(a)q.com> wrote: Jerry, What is a SageCat? Is that a Sage 17 with a Cat rig (mast forward of the cabin), built by Dave Scobie who builds the Sage 17s? Or is it something else. Thanx, I will be curious to read your reply. Steve M-15 # 335 ----- Original Message ----- From: "jerry montgomery" <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 12:43 PM > Actually, that's a thought- two for the price of one. I just talked to Sal > and told him that I was thinking about going down for the October race, > assuming I'd have the SageCat done by then. > > So many decisions, so little time. > > jerry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Billahrens" <billahrens(a)comcast.net> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 12:36 PM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Mexico? > > > So why not come for the May Race, Memorial Day weekend. > > Bill Ahrens > W. A. Ahrens & Associates > >> On Feb 1, 2014, at 1:00 PM, "jerry montgomery" <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> >> wrote: >> >> If anybody in interested, I'm thinking about taking my Sage down to Mexico >> in June to float around for a week or so and would be happy to have some >> company. I'd go to the midriff area, probably launching either at Bahia >> De Los Angeles on the Baja Side and island hopping across, or the other >> way around, launching at Kino Bay. >> >> I've done this area several times but not for about 20 or 25 years and >> really enjoyed it and it's time I did it again before I get too old. No >> marinas, no gas stops, no nothing, but I always caught enough fish to feed >> an army. >> >> Usually light air but nobody but an idiot would go w/o a storm jib, need >> good ground tackle, lots of gas, water and sunscreen. >> >> A group of 6 or 8 would be perfect. >> >> >> >> jerry >> >> -- >> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. >> SPAMfighter has removed 9971 of my spam emails to date. >> Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len >> >> Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan >> http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen > > > > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.3462 / Virus Database: 3684/7051 - Release Date: 02/01/14 >

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Sea of Cortez
by eisenee＠aol.com 01 Feb '14

01 Feb '14

Jerry I have had thr Sea Of Cortez on my bucket list for a long time but like I said I have to get both of my shoulders rebuilt, drug cartels in Mex, and if all the stars align will meet Don Daigo in Galveston, and did I mention family reunion on the gulf Of Mexico all about that time. Sorry maybe next year Eldor Can't put it Off too long , we're not getting any younger

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Re: M_Boats: Mexico?
by Mark & Roberta 01 Feb '14

01 Feb '14

Wow. That's a tempting offer. I'd love to do a trip like that but it doesn't look possible right now. On Feb 1, 2014 12:00 PM, jerry montgomery <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> wrote: > > If anybody in interested, I'm thinking about taking my Sage down to Mexico in June to float around for a week or so and would be happy to have some company. I'd go to the midriff area, probably launching either at Bahia De Los Angeles on the Baja Side and island hopping across, or the other way around, launching at Kino Bay. > > I've done this area several times but not for about 20 or 25 years and really enjoyed it and it's time I did it again before I get too old. No marinas, no gas stops, no nothing, but I always caught enough fish to feed an army. > > Usually light air but nobody but an idiot would go w/o a storm jib, need good ground tackle, lots of gas, water and sunscreen. > > A group of 6 or 8 would be perfect. > > > > jerry > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > SPAMfighter has removed 9971 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > Do you have a slow PC? Try a Free scan http://www.spamfighter.com/SLOW-PCfighter?cid=sigen

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