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Re: M_Boats: Ida Rudder
by John Schinnerer 22 Jan '16

22 Jan '16

Thanks Tom, This sounds totally doable as DIY. Someone just posted about how the up-down line works also. Would be great if someone has pictures of one of the original sliding-rod rudders though, for details. Also, since I have the early balanced rudder...I'd need a non-balanced blade to do this with. Same tiller should be fine, I assume? If anyone here has all or part of a slide-up for sale, including just the blade, let me know. I really like the design because a kick-up rudder becomes a lousy rudder helm-wise when kicked up even a little - out of balance, if one needs to still sail with it partly up. But the slider would seem to be way better with that - less effective the more it comes up, but at least still more in balance. cheers, John S. On 01/21/2016 07:39 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote: > As concerns your rudder, you already have gudgeons on your transom, look > for after market gudgeons that will mount on a rudder. Or have them > fabricated. Websites like Discount Steel or Metals Depot have stainless > steel rod for sale by the foot. Or you might have a local dealer. It > would be a simple matter of installing gudgeons both places and buying > three feet of ss rod to use as the pin. I had a "beaching rudder" on my > first Monty built in 74 and it was a very handy rig. Add the kickup > feature and you will have the best of all worlds. > Tom B > ... -- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com

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Re: M_Boats: WrinkleBoat Intergalactic Championship Regatta Thanks
by mannatsea88 19 Jan '16

19 Jan '16

Hello David and Michele, great to meet you both. Had great day under sail and watching the M15s making way even with light and variable conditions. It brought back good memories. And I was glad to join you for dinner. Good sailing. Michael Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message -------- From: David Grah via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Date:01/18/2016 8:04 PM (GMT-08:00) To: For and About Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: WrinkleBoat Intergalactic Championship Regatta Thanks We're home safe and sound after a great weekend at the WrinkleBoat Intergalactic Championship Regatta at Lake Pleasant Arizona where, in addition to some fun sailing, we picked up our new mast and boom for our Montgomery 15. If you were thinking of going to this event sometime you really should go at your next opportunity. It is a blast! Thanks to: Gary Oberbeck for organizing the WrinkleBoat Intergalactic Championship Regatta (WICR). Arizona Yacht Club for having its annual Birthday Regatta and Leukemia Cup that allowed the WICR to go on in conjunction. The races seemed to be well run and the dinner was great. Ron Oneal for giving us some racing and Lake Pleasant pointers, being so nice about our sailing performance, and providing good company at dinner. Sal and Gail Glesser for bringing our new mast and boom from Sage Marine, helping sponsor the event, and for the very entertaining conversation. Dave Scobie for getting our new mast and boom together for us and getting it to the WICR at Lake Pleasant and for putting together the fantastic WICR awards. Mike Mann for the wonderful story about his trip to Hawaii on his Montgomery 15, Little Breeze, for signing my copy of the book, and answering a lot of questions over dinner. If you have not purchased the book A Little Breeze to the West, you need to. It is a great story that celebrates our little boats. Jerry Montgomery for creating and building the boats that give us so much pleasure, take us so many places, and bring us together. David Grah and Michele RhewBishop CaliforniaMontgomery 15 - Sky

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2016 WICR Results link and wrap-up.
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 19 Jan '16

19 Jan '16

Another Intergalactic Regatta (thanks Bernard - we missed you buddy!) is 'in the books' ! Weather was a bit cooler than ideal but not bad - breeze was a bit lighter than ideal but not as bad as it was one year. Sailing conditions were dominant. Sunny skies for the most part and the best part was seeing all those folks AGAIN ! ! It was a darn nice weekend for WrinkleBoat Fleet action. The weather wasn't perfect but the company sure was!! Thanks to Paul Bear/Stan Susman, Phil McCowin, Tyler & Sam Backman, David & Michelle Grah, Jerry Montgomery, Ron McNeil/Michael Mann, Sal & Gail Glesser, Eldor & Dorothy Eisen, Dave Scobie and the guys at Sage Marine for the trophies, Spyderco, and to Beth Cindy - who didn't get to see me for 5 days while I played and she babysat Ben at home alone! Thanks to my crew, Saturday- Craig 'we got it' Painter, & on Sunday,- Gail Glesser - you two rocked! New participants, some with new boats, 'new to them' boats - and the 'Base' of WrinkleBoat Racers!.............Brother! - what a Fleet! And the racing is getting BETTER each time - closer scores and podium finishes spread throughout the fleet ! ! (only 2 TLE's this year!) Results here - http://arizonayachtclub.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/BDay-2016-Sunday.html I am working on getting the times for finishes from the R/C as WICR monitors them for rating adjustments - will update those when/if I can secure them. Participants - Please send your photos to Dave Scobie or GaryO.- we will post event pictures at _http://www.wrinkleboat.webs.com_ (http://www.wrinkleboat.webs.com/) as they come in (we missed DaveS's photo skills). Thanks to ALL who participated, AzYC and their volunteers, our Race Officers- Dave and Wendy -, and our crew! Have Fun, Go Sail! GO

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Re: M_Boats: San Juans and Canadian Gulf Islands in 2016
by Mark Dvorscak 18 Jan '16

18 Jan '16

My wife and I are planning to be in the islands the last week of June and the first week of July. Our general plan is to launch in Anacortes then head for the Gulf Islands but we're flexible about route and destinations. We are fairly well locked into the dates though (6/24-7/9/16). I haven't even looked at the currents yet to do any routing but I will in the next couple of months. It would be great to meet up with others if possible. Mark Dvorscak M23 Faith M15 BC Sent from my U.S. Cellular® smartphone GARY M HYDE <gmhyde1(a)mac.com> wrote: >June isn't crowded in the first 3 weeks. Power boats really come out around July 4 and on. > >~~~_/)~~~ Gary >Sent from my iPhone :-) > >> On Jan 17, 2016, at 10:23 PM, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> wrote: >> >> Yeah, that's true...we got 2/3 day of fog in four days out right after labor day last year. Quieter though. June is pretty crowded, no? >> >> Re weather, I lived in Seattle seven years...the joke that was only half a joke was "no guarantee of summer before July 4th"... :-) >> >> A long-time local cruiser guy I talked with last year at the viewpoint up top of Cypress island said the actual sailing (e.g. consistency of decent wind) was best in spring and fall - later fall that right after labor day he meant of course. >> >> Always some tradeoffs! >> >> cheers, >> John S. >> >>> On 01/17/2016 09:56 PM, GARY M HYDE wrote: >>> John: >>> The San Juan's can be foggy in autumn. We have found June to work well. >>> >>> ~~~_/)~~~ Gary >>> Sent from my iPhone :-) >>> >>>> On Jan 17, 2016, at 9:33 PM, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> I am interested in a general way... >>>> Some sailing friends here talking about an outing right after Labor Day. >>>> Doesn't rule out being in the area other times, but more certain then, for me anyhow. >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> John S. >>>> >>>>> On 01/17/2016 08:11 PM, Bruce Ward wrote: >>>>> >>>>> it's winter and I just snow shoed all day hoping for a flotilla to the the San Juans and Gulf this summer. Wanted to put the plug in for interest. >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> -- >>>> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design >>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>> - Eco-Living - >>>> Whole Systems Design Services >>>> People - Place - Learning - Integration >>>> john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 >>>> http://eco-living.net >>>> http://sociocracyconsulting.com >> >> -- >> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design >> -------------------------------------------- >> - Eco-Living - >> Whole Systems Design Services >> People - Place - Learning - Integration >> john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 >> http://eco-living.net >> http://sociocracyconsulting.com >> >

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WrinkleBoat Intergalactic Championship Regatta Thanks
by David Grah 18 Jan '16

18 Jan '16

We're home safe and sound after a great weekend at the WrinkleBoat Intergalactic Championship Regatta at Lake Pleasant Arizona where, in addition to some fun sailing, we picked up our new mast and boom for our Montgomery 15. If you were thinking of going to this event sometime you really should go at your next opportunity. It is a blast! Thanks to: Gary Oberbeck for organizing the WrinkleBoat Intergalactic Championship Regatta (WICR). Arizona Yacht Club for having its annual Birthday Regatta and Leukemia Cup that allowed the WICR to go on in conjunction. The races seemed to be well run and the dinner was great. Ron Oneal for giving us some racing and Lake Pleasant pointers, being so nice about our sailing performance, and providing good company at dinner. Sal and Gail Glesser for bringing our new mast and boom from Sage Marine, helping sponsor the event, and for the very entertaining conversation. Dave Scobie for getting our new mast and boom together for us and getting it to the WICR at Lake Pleasant and for putting together the fantastic WICR awards. Mike Mann for the wonderful story about his trip to Hawaii on his Montgomery 15, Little Breeze, for signing my copy of the book, and answering a lot of questions over dinner. If you have not purchased the book A Little Breeze to the West, you need to. It is a great story that celebrates our little boats. Jerry Montgomery for creating and building the boats that give us so much pleasure, take us so many places, and bring us together. David Grah and Michele RhewBishop CaliforniaMontgomery 15 - Sky

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Re: M_Boats: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 155, Issue 22
by Klaas 18 Jan '16

18 Jan '16

I'm interested if the timing works for me M 15 Tadpole KLaas ----- Original Message ----- From: "montgomery boats-request" <montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> To: "montgomery boats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 11:00:09 AM Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 155, Issue 22 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. San Juans and Canadian Gulf Islands in 2016 (Bruce Ward) 2. Re: San Juans and Canadian Gulf Islands in 2016 (Keith R. Martin) 3. Re: San Juans and Canadian Gulf Islands in 2016 (John Schinnerer) 4. Re: San Juans and Canadian Gulf Islands in 2016 (GARY M HYDE) 5. Re: San Juans and Canadian Gulf Islands in 2016 (John Schinnerer) 6. Re: San Juans and Canadian Gulf Islands in 2016 (GARY M HYDE) 7. Re: San Juans and Canadian Gulf Islands in 2016 (Mark Dvorscak) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 20:11:48 -0800 From: Bruce Ward <northwave(a)telus.net> To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: San Juans and Canadian Gulf Islands in 2016 Message-ID: <2C237D6D-6342-4AD2-8082-F7C40936E044(a)telus.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii it's winter and I just snow shoed all day hoping for a flotilla to the the San Juans and Gulf this summer. Wanted to put the plug in for interest. Sent from my iPad ------------------------------

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San Juans and Canadian Gulf Islands in 2016
by Bruce Ward 17 Jan '16

17 Jan '16

it's winter and I just snow shoed all day hoping for a flotilla to the the San Juans and Gulf this summer. Wanted to put the plug in for interest. Sent from my iPad

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Introduction...
by Jazzy 15 Jan '16

15 Jan '16

Hello All! I recently purchased an M17, and of course have been lurking and learning all along. The boat was originally "Selkie" and the next owner re-named it "El Nino". My name is Ivan and I currently live in Gig Harbor, WA and am fairly new to sailing. I bought an older Snipe two summers ago and taught myself how to sail on that. I would love to get in contact with anyone nearby that is knowledgeable regarding M17 or 15s to perhaps come by for a looksie. I look forward to getting to know you all better, and now for the best part of introduction posts.... PICS! Note "Selkie's" custom dodger as featured in Small Craft Advisor #64, 2010..... SWEET! http://ivanpla.com/FunStuff/Montgomery%2017/El%20Nino.jpg http://ivanpla.com/FunStuff/Montgomery%2017/elnino.jpg -= Ivan

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Re: M_Boats: Montgomery 17 Sailboat
by Bill Wickett 13 Jan '16

13 Jan '16

Hi Peter, Thanks for asking. She was sold in November into Lansing MI. I am sorry that the MSOG site administrator has not taken it down after several requests to do so. Also sorry for the confusion it has caused you and others looking to get information or to purchase. The site allows you to post an ad yourself, but not modify or delete a posting. I guess house keeping is only done infrequently. Regards, Bill Wickett > On Jan 13, 2016, at 7:42 PM, A.Peter Copenhaver <symbios906(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Good evening Bill, > > Just checking to see if you still have your M17 for sale. If you do would you be willing to share a few photos of her. > > Thanks in advance for your time... > > Peter > Marquette, Mi USA

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Re: M_Boats: Ida rudder
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 13 Jan '16

13 Jan '16

Every time for 25+ years. I have NEVER trailed with a rudder in place - too much pounding on the hardware, but I guess if the rudder is 'too long' - just lower it and drive.....DON'T do that ! GO In a message dated 1/12/2016 8:57:55 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com writes: I have launched the 17 scores of times just like that and it works fine.

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