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Re: M_Boats: forum or email
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 29 Jan '16

29 Jan '16

Go Dave ! my vote - No Yahoo - but who cares - (BTW I really don't care what FB or any other web based 'gang' finds out about my life EXCEPT my critical #'s - WGAF ?? ) In a message dated 1/28/2016 5:52:25 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, scoobscobie(a)gmail.com writes: Sage Marine can host the forum. No charge. The software is vbulletin. Have an Mboat section currently - http://www.sagemarine.us/forum/forumdisplay.php?14-Montgomery-Dinks-15-17-an d-23 I can add moderators to the Mboat section. Create new subforums (ie, for each boat type). The software will host photos and document attachments (videos are still best done on YouTube and linked to a post in the forum). A moderator system would be good so if there is a problem with a post/user a group can make decisions instead of an individual (I've done such a thing with forums I've moderated for 10+ years). :: Dave Scobie

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Where to post Pictures to the Group?
by Henry Rodriguez 29 Jan '16

29 Jan '16

Is it possible to post new pictures to the MSOG or MSOG PHOTO site? I have looked at, studied, and, in some cases, drooled over each existing picture many times. I would love to see updated pictures and some new/different projects. I know we can include pictures with posts on the TrailerSailor site (why not here?) but I would like to see some whole new albums like on MSOG. Henry -- Sent from Gmail Mobile on Windows 10 phone

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Mast Light through Hull...
by Jazzy 28 Jan '16

28 Jan '16

Hi all, I was wondering if you might share some pics regarding how your mast light gets to your power panel. I have a mastlight...and what appears to be it's wire in the mast, but I don't see a way it gets into the boat. Online I've seen various plastic fittings and the old drill and caulk method. Opinions and pics greatly appreciated! Jazz On Jan 22, 2016 10:54 AM, <swwheatley(a)comcast.net> wrote: > I have sailed my M17 with the lifting rudder (and the centerboard) all the > way up and have been pleasantly surprised. Sure, there is more sideslip, > you can't point as high and you have to reef sooner but, as long as you're > not racing, the fun-factor is pretty much the same. I worried that having > the tiller roughly 1 foot higher would feel awkward, but that was not the > case. The raised rudder/tiller do not interfere with the stock rig at all. > > The o.e. mahogany rudder that came with my boat was pretty beat up, so I > made a close copy out of marine plywood covered with fiberglass and epoxy. > I already had some experience shaping foils for a stitch-and-tape dinghy I > built so, for me, it was a pretty straightforward DIY project. > > Be aware that the lifting rudder can be a fussy arrangement. It doesn't > take much of a grounding to bend the rod. Once that happens, it becomes > very difficult, if not impossible, to put the rudder up or down. Plan on > fabricating two rods and carrying one as a spare. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 9:58:57 AM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Ida Rudder > > John, > I told Jazzy how to rig his slide up rudder since I had one on my first > Monty 17 back in '83. He has the slightly newer model of rudder which is > not balanced at all. Maybe Jerry can put you onto a source of his mahogany > rudders. Any of them can be made into a lifting rudder with a set of > gudgeons what will fit on the rudder since the first set of the two sets > necessary is already on the transom. I never sailed with the lifting rudder > partially up but unless you are racing all out I doubt the slight loss of > lateral resistance by raising the 10 inch wide rudder a few inches would be > noticeable. Then too with the rudder a few inches above normal sailing > setup might interfere with other elements of the rig. > Tom B > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > > This > email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. > www.avast.com > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > > <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 2:29 AM, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > wrote: > > > Thanks Tom, > > This sounds totally doable as DIY. Someone just posted about how the > > up-down line works also. > > > > Would be great if someone has pictures of one of the original sliding-rod > > rudders though, for details. > > > > Also, since I have the early balanced rudder...I'd need a non-balanced > > blade to do this with. Same tiller should be fine, I assume? > > > > If anyone here has all or part of a slide-up for sale, including just the > > blade, let me know. > > > > I really like the design because a kick-up rudder becomes a lousy rudder > > helm-wise when kicked up even a little - out of balance, if one needs to > > still sail with it partly up. But the slider would seem to be way better > > with that - less effective the more it comes up, but at least still more > in > > balance. > > > > cheers, > > John S. > > > > On 01/21/2016 07:39 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote: > > > >> As concerns your rudder, you already have gudgeons on your transom, look > >> for after market gudgeons that will mount on a rudder. Or have them > >> fabricated. Websites like Discount Steel or Metals Depot have stainless > >> steel rod for sale by the foot. Or you might have a local dealer. It > >> would be a simple matter of installing gudgeons both places and buying > >> three feet of ss rod to use as the pin. I had a "beaching rudder" on my > >> first Monty built in 74 and it was a very handy rig. Add the kickup > >> feature and you will have the best of all worlds. > >> Tom B > >> > >> ... > > -- > > John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > > -------------------------------------------- > > - Eco-Living - > > Whole Systems Design Services > > People - Place - Learning - Integration > > john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 > > http://eco-living.net > > http://sociocracyconsulting.com > > > > > >

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Re: M_Boats: forum or email
by Dave Scobie 28 Jan '16

28 Jan '16

the last time changing from the email system to a forum was discussed, about three or four years ago, it was resoundly 'voted down' by the group members. folks found forums to be difficult and/or not wanting to learn a new system. the other concern was loosing the email list members in the transition to a new location. currently there is - * email list (limited photo abilities and no ability to search old posts) * facebook page (lots of folks don't want facebook because of personal date being public and/or 'mined' by facebook) * trailersailor sub-forum (can post pictures, though photos are deleted after a few years) * MSOG - old info in www-pages and how one can join/remove self from email list. no updates to old info currently planned. * MSOGphoto - old info in www-pages. in process of being updated (yes, slowly) and will be available for user-submitted photos and m-boat project reports. future - * do we want to go to facebook? * do we want to go to a forum (i can host forum space and create a moderator system that i, as a builder, does control)? * yahoo group? * stay with what we have (see 'currently' above)? let us share opinions. -- :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com

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Re: M_Boats: forum or email
by Neil Dorf 28 Jan '16

28 Jan '16

2nd what Larry Yake said. The pool of information shared, and the "connection" among us, is most powerful when we are not splintered into different forums or factions. The only advantage I have seen of the email-based system is that it is "pushed" out to us. Admittedly this does serve to keep us current on new and developing conversations--as opposed to consciously logging into Trailer Sailor to peruse the conversations and topics. But the emails came so fast and furious, I had to go to the digest format, which is terribly difficult to read (IMHO). I do most of my communication & lurking on the TS boars because I also follow the Potter forum as it is the defacto form of communication and announcements for the Potter Yachters (which have Mboat, Compac, and other sailors) in Northern California. One-stop shop to lurk, and share insights not only with the wrinkleboat crowd, but also the other sailors. How many of you choose to pose a question or an announcement on the maillist, but not on the forum, or vice versa? Or offer up an answer? Or perhaps some of us might feel the need to post twice-once on each venue--just to get the widest audience? Crazy. Let's stop the splintering and get everyone talking on (or sailing in) the same channel. Neil Dorf '85 M15 TwoCan NorCal --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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Photoes
by Thomas Buzzi 28 Jan '16

28 Jan '16

I have a Windows 7 setup (forgot the formal word here for "setup") which should tell you how swift I am with computers in general. Can someone tell me how to compress the pics I take with with my DSLR so they will fit on the MSOG site? I have noticed some here can post a thumbnail photo and sometimes when I click on that a larger view pops up on the screen. Is that all part of that "compression process"? a "luddite" in Rockport, Tx. <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> This email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

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forum changes
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 28 Jan '16

28 Jan '16

I would like to put in a word for Keith. He has done an excellent job of maintaining this list for many years. Also keep in mind that he is really not into sailing at this time and provides the list as a "gift" to its members. It is certainly a good topic worthy of discussion, but I would suggest you think long and hard before making any changes. Changing back would be difficult if any changes made do not work. sal M15 - Justus Sage 17 - Air Born

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Re: M_Boats: forum or email
by David Grah 27 Jan '16

27 Jan '16

I follow other groups on other subjects on other subjects and see pluses and minuses of each including this group. This is the most active group I follow and sometimes am sorry it is hard to search old posts and have images more wrapped into the process. *Facebook would be okay but it would be sort of nice to be off of that platform. I will note that I participate in the Montgomery Sailboats group on Facebook. *Forums are good in my experience. It would be nice for posts and photos to be kept and searched "forever". *I participate in a Yahoo group for sailplanes and it is pretty good. It is not very active and many posts involve photos. *The amount of activity on this platform is good but is unfortunate photos are somewhat difficult and searching older posts is lacking. (Thanks to whoever makes this this platform work, though!) David GrahBishop CaliforniaMontgomery 15 - Sky Message: 2 Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2016 15:54:45 -0700 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: forum or email Message-ID: <CAGjBOA467-0LWhFPP+SEiqJF6zY_k1bavz+EV4quDt4Aj5bsMg(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 the last time changing from the email system to a forum was discussed, about three or four years ago, it was resoundly 'voted down' by the group members. folks found forums to be difficult and/or not wanting to learn a new system. the other concern was loosing the email list members in the transition to a new location. currently there is - * email list (limited photo abilities and no ability to search old posts) * facebook page (lots of folks don't want facebook because of personal date being public and/or 'mined' by facebook) * trailersailor sub-forum (can post pictures, though photos are deleted after a few years) * MSOG - old info in www-pages and how one can join/remove self from email list. no updates to old info currently planned. * MSOGphoto - old info in www-pages. in process of being updated (yes, slowly) and will be available for user-submitted photos and m-boat project reports. future - * do we want to go to facebook? * do we want to go to a forum (i can host forum space and create a moderator system that i, as a builder, does control)? * yahoo group? * stay with what we have (see 'currently' above)? let us share opinions. -- :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com

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Re: M_Boats: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 155, Issue 38
by Antonio Martinez 27 Jan '16

27 Jan '16

I know TS has had some 'personal' issues in past - and let's not go there now - but it does seem like a logical home for wrinkleheads. Dunno, I enjoy/learn from this mail-list, but it's awfully tedious at times. Then again I'm a newcomer that mostly lurks, so whadda I know! The old MSOG is an awesome resource. I just with we had a slightly less cumbersome 'home' :-} Carry on... a On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 2:00 PM, < montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: > Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Where to post Pictures to the Group? (Keith R. Martin) > 2. Re: M_Boats :M-15 ? Old Rope (Steve Trapp) > 3. Re: Where to post Pictures to the Group? (Bill Wickett) > 4. Re: Where to post Pictures to the Group? (Bruce Ward) > 5. Re: Where to post Pictures to the Group? (Bill Wickett) > 6. Re: Where to post Pictures to the Group? (Thomas Buzzi) > 7. Re: Where to post Pictures to the Group? (Thomas Buzzi) > 8. Re: Where to post Pictures to the Group? (Thomas Buzzi) > 9. Re: Old Rope (Thomas Buzzi) > 10. Re: Where to post Pictures to the Group? (Thomas Buzzi) > 11. Re: Where to post Pictures to the Group? (Thomas Buzzi) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 16:49:23 -0800 > From: "Keith R. Martin" <keith.richard.martin(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where to post Pictures to the Group? > Message-ID: > <CAOQkDswAUgrXV9bTJh-xH1Jb0_3= > eC_qbXvettjW-KZzQ0QE1g(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I think John's suggestion of using a yahoo group has a lot of merit.... > > Keith > > > *Keith R. Martin, P.Eng.* > > *Burnaby, B.C. CanadaSerenity,** M17 Hull #353* > > > > On 26 January 2016 at 15:14, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> wrote: > > > One suggestion... > > > > Move to a Yahoo group, which has file and picture sharing and the option > > to get mail or view messages on web or both. > > I'm in a few other groups (including sailboat groups) that use Yahoo > > groups and it works well to augment the e-mail listserv piece we already > > have. Pictures can be in "albums" as well so it's not just one big pile > of > > pictures. > > > > This list is AFAIK a mailman listserv - e-mail list - which is basically > > all mailman does (and does it very well, for decades now, but, it's just > an > > e-mail list server, doesn't provide any other features/functions) > > > > There are other more techie options I won't go into now because they > > involve upgrading the MSOG site to something we can all "join" and then > > have ability to share pictures, files, etc.. > > > > cheers, > > John S. > > > > On 01/26/2016 03:04 PM, Thomas Buzzi wrote: > > > >> I second that notion. A picture is worth a....well you know the rest. We > >> are an inventive bunch. Why not set up something where we can share our > >> knowledge and inspiration? Especially in these long, dark, cold, frozen, > >> blustery (have I missed any adjectives?) winters. Food for thought is > food > >> for the spirit. (Have I missed any cliques?) > >> Warm breezes, > >> Tom B > >> < > >> > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > >> > > >> This > >> email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. > >> www.avast.com > >> < > >> > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > >> > > >> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > >> > >> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Henry Rodriguez <heinzir(a)gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> Is it possible to post new pictures to the MSOG or MSOG PHOTO site? I > >>> have > >>> looked at, studied, and, in some cases, drooled over each existing > >>> picture > >>> many times. I would love to see updated pictures and some > new/different > >>> projects. I know we can include pictures with posts on the > TrailerSailor > >>> site (why not here?) but I would like to see some whole new albums like > >>> on > >>> MSOG. > >>> > >>> Henry > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Sent from Gmail Mobile on Windows 10 phone > >>> > >>> > > -- > > John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > > -------------------------------------------- > > - Eco-Living - > > Whole Systems Design Services > > People - Place - Learning - Integration > > john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 > > http://eco-living.net > > http://sociocracyconsulting.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:07:40 -0800 > From: "Steve Trapp" <stevetrapp(a)Q.com> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: M_Boats :M-15 ? Old Rope > Message-ID: <7827316E2EA94ECF8193227F8AEC550F@HPPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; > reply-type=original > > Dave, > A similar chart for the M-15 would be useful too. > I remember asking you about the M-15 sheets and lines at Pocket Yacht > Palooza in Port Townsend, jotting the information in my notebook, > then going into the WoodenBoat Foundation Chandlery with my VISA card in > hand and buying what I needed, but I would appreciate > the information again in a format like you used for the M-17. > Steve > M-15 # 335 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Scobie > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 5:13 AM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Old Rope > > All lines below double braid - > > Main halyard = 1/4" > Jib halyard = 5/16" > Reefing lines =3/16" > Cunningham =3/16" > If your hands can stand 1/4" for jib sheets; otherwise 5/16" > Main sheet 5/16" > Mainsheet traveler = 3/16" > Boom vang will be 3/16 or 1/4 depending on vcleat size. > Backstay adjuster will be 3/16 or 1/4 depending on vcleat size. > > Hope the above is helpful. > > :: Dave Scobie > On Jan 22, 2016 7:11 PM, "David Rifkind" <drifkind(a)acm.org> wrote: > > > Need to replace all the rotted rope on what is becoming my M17. (By ?all > > the rotted rope? I mean _all_ the rope.) The pieces that are left measure > > 5/16?. That looks right for the halyards and incidentals, but the sheet > > blocks and cleats look like they were intended for something larger. What > > is (are) the usual sizes? > > > > About the only piece that isn?t coming apart is the centerboard pendant. > > It?s tempting to leave it alone as I don?t really have a plan for getting > > at the centerboard. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 21:01:07 -0500 > From: Bill Wickett <billwick(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where to post Pictures to the Group? > Message-ID: <94A6427F-2B54-47AE-BF3A-388828225801(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Why not just post, pics and all to the Montgomery forum on TrailerSailor? > It is all set up. The Monty forum there is certainly underutilizes compared > to some of the other class forums on that site. You don't even have to deal > with the main board if you don't want to. > > Bill > > > On Jan 26, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Keith R. Martin < > keith.richard.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I think John's suggestion of using a yahoo group has a lot of merit.... > > > > Keith > > > > > > *Keith R. Martin, P.Eng.* > > > > *Burnaby, B.C. CanadaSerenity,** M17 Hull #353* > > > > > > > >> On 26 January 2016 at 15:14, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > wrote: > >> > >> One suggestion... > >> > >> Move to a Yahoo group, which has file and picture sharing and the option > >> to get mail or view messages on web or both. > >> I'm in a few other groups (including sailboat groups) that use Yahoo > >> groups and it works well to augment the e-mail listserv piece we already > >> have. Pictures can be in "albums" as well so it's not just one big pile > of > >> pictures. > >> > >> This list is AFAIK a mailman listserv - e-mail list - which is basically > >> all mailman does (and does it very well, for decades now, but, it's > just an > >> e-mail list server, doesn't provide any other features/functions) > >> > >> There are other more techie options I won't go into now because they > >> involve upgrading the MSOG site to something we can all "join" and then > >> have ability to share pictures, files, etc.. > >> > >> cheers, > >> John S. > >> > >>> On 01/26/2016 03:04 PM, Thomas Buzzi wrote: > >>> > >>> I second that notion. A picture is worth a....well you know the rest. > We > >>> are an inventive bunch. Why not set up something where we can share our > >>> knowledge and inspiration? Especially in these long, dark, cold, > frozen, > >>> blustery (have I missed any adjectives?) winters. Food for thought is > food > >>> for the spirit. (Have I missed any cliques?) > >>> Warm breezes, > >>> Tom B > >>> < > >>> > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > >>> This > >>> email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. > >>> www.avast.com > >>> < > >>> > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > >>> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Henry Rodriguez <heinzir(a)gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Is it possible to post new pictures to the MSOG or MSOG PHOTO site? I > >>>> have > >>>> looked at, studied, and, in some cases, drooled over each existing > >>>> picture > >>>> many times. I would love to see updated pictures and some > new/different > >>>> projects. I know we can include pictures with posts on the > TrailerSailor > >>>> site (why not here?) but I would like to see some whole new albums > like > >>>> on > >>>> MSOG. > >>>> > >>>> Henry > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile on Windows 10 phone > >> -- > >> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > >> -------------------------------------------- > >> - Eco-Living - > >> Whole Systems Design Services > >> People - Place - Learning - Integration > >> john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 > >> http://eco-living.net > >> http://sociocracyconsulting.com > >> > >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 19:13:28 -0800 > From: Bruce Ward <northwave(a)telus.net> > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where to post Pictures to the Group? > Message-ID: <CE5A78EC-A4E5-4820-827C-7537C7293569(a)telus.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Thanks for your continuing efforts Dave Scobie and Sage boats with the > Mboatphotosite. My two Mongomeries went through quite a metamorphosis and > I have pictures to share. Our current boat is the M23 Clarity which we got > from Jeff a couple of years ago. > > Sent from my iPad > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 22:19:46 -0500 > From: Bill Wickett <billwick(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where to post Pictures to the Group? > Message-ID: <51F10255-6CCA-482C-B269-7075E59D5415(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Ah, good point Henry. No albums on trailer sailor. A Yahoo group or other > similar would be better for that. ie the Nor'sea Yahoo group. If the MSOG > site or the old photo site I think Dave Scobie is working on preserving > allows that, then so much the better, wait for that. It may have the older > and still good content. > > Nonsuch boats have a Pbase photo site with something like that, but it is > not administered anymore. Now just an orphaned photo site. > > Bill > > > On Jan 26, 2016, at 9:26 PM, Henry Rodriguez <heinzir(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > The TrailerSailor site is great for allowing you to include photos with > a post in a particular thread but can you post a bucket load of pictures > about a particular project or solution and organize them into albums or > folders? I guess I?ll wait for the MSOG update. > > > > Sent from Outlook Mail for Windows 10 phone > > > > > > From: Bill Wickett > > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 8:01 PM > > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where to post Pictures to the Group? > > > > Why not just post, pics and all to the Montgomery forum on > TrailerSailor? It is all set up. The Monty forum there is certainly > underutilizes compared to some of the other class forums on that site. You > don't even have to deal with the main board if you don't want to. > > > > Bill > > > > > On Jan 26, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Keith R. Martin < > keith.richard.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I think John's suggestion of using a yahoo group has a lot of > merit.... > > > > > > Keith > > > > > > > > > *Keith R. Martin, P.Eng.* > > > > > > *Burnaby, B.C. CanadaSerenity,** M17 Hull #353* > > > > > > > > > > > >> On 26 January 2016 at 15:14, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > wrote: > > >> > > >> One suggestion... > > >> > > >> Move to a Yahoo group, which has file and picture sharing and the > option > > >> to get mail or view messages on web or both. > > >> I'm in a few other groups (including sailboat groups) that use Yahoo > > >> groups and it works well to augment the e-mail listserv piece we > already > > >> have. Pictures can be in "albums" as well so it's not just one big > pile of > > >> pictures. > > >> > > >> This list is AFAIK a mailman listserv - e-mail list - which is > basically > > >> all mailman does (and does it very well, for decades now, but, it's > just an > > >> e-mail list server, doesn't provide any other features/functions) > > >> > > >> There are other more techie options I won't go into now because they > > >> involve upgrading the MSOG site to something we can all "join" and > then > > >> have ability to share pictures, files, etc.. > > >> > > >> cheers, > > >> John S. > > >> > > >>> On 01/26/2016 03:04 PM, Thomas Buzzi wrote: > > >>> > > >>> I second that notion. A picture is worth a....well you know the > rest. We > > >>> are an inventive bunch. Why not set up something where we can share > our > > >>> knowledge and inspiration? Especially in these long, dark, cold, > frozen, > > >>> blustery (have I missed any adjectives?) winters. Food for thought > is food > > >>> for the spirit. (Have I missed any cliques?) > > >>> Warm breezes, > > >>> Tom B > > >>> < > > >>> > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > >>> This > > >>> email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. > > >>> www.avast.com > > >>> < > > >>> > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > >>> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > >>> > > >>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Henry Rodriguez <heinzir(a)gmail.com> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Is it possible to post new pictures to the MSOG or MSOG PHOTO site? > I > > >>>> have > > >>>> looked at, studied, and, in some cases, drooled over each existing > > >>>> picture > > >>>> many times. I would love to see updated pictures and some > new/different > > >>>> projects. I know we can include pictures with posts on the > TrailerSailor > > >>>> site (why not here?) but I would like to see some whole new albums > like > > >>>> on > > >>>> MSOG. > > >>>> > > >>>> Henry > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile on Windows 10 phone > > >> -- > > >> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > > >> -------------------------------------------- > > >> - Eco-Living - > > >> Whole Systems Design Services > > >> People - Place - Learning - Integration > > >> john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 > > >> http://eco-living.net > > >> http://sociocracyconsulting.com > > >> > > >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 22:17:54 -0600 > From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where to post Pictures to the Group? > Message-ID: > <CA+TbpAXbim4Vyi11jpgFWvw30D02cSmE5uhYsg7hKh9voK= > 0CQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > John > would I have to make Yahoo my home page? I have gmail and Mozilla Firefox > now. Yahoo seems to be all ads. I guess I am totally unfamiliar with your > suggestion. > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > > This > email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. > www.avast.com > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > > <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:14 PM, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > wrote: > > > One suggestion... > > > > Move to a Yahoo group, which has file and picture sharing and the option > > to get mail or view messages on web or both. > > I'm in a few other groups (including sailboat groups) that use Yahoo > > groups and it works well to augment the e-mail listserv piece we already > > have. Pictures can be in "albums" as well so it's not just one big pile > of > > pictures. > > > > This list is AFAIK a mailman listserv - e-mail list - which is basically > > all mailman does (and does it very well, for decades now, but, it's just > an > > e-mail list server, doesn't provide any other features/functions) > > > > There are other more techie options I won't go into now because they > > involve upgrading the MSOG site to something we can all "join" and then > > have ability to share pictures, files, etc.. > > > > cheers, > > John S. > > > > On 01/26/2016 03:04 PM, Thomas Buzzi wrote: > > > >> I second that notion. A picture is worth a....well you know the rest. We > >> are an inventive bunch. Why not set up something where we can share our > >> knowledge and inspiration? Especially in these long, dark, cold, frozen, > >> blustery (have I missed any adjectives?) winters. Food for thought is > food > >> for the spirit. (Have I missed any cliques?) > >> Warm breezes, > >> Tom B > >> < > >> > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > >> > > >> This > >> email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. > >> www.avast.com > >> < > >> > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > >> > > >> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > >> > >> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Henry Rodriguez <heinzir(a)gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> Is it possible to post new pictures to the MSOG or MSOG PHOTO site? I > >>> have > >>> looked at, studied, and, in some cases, drooled over each existing > >>> picture > >>> many times. I would love to see updated pictures and some > new/different > >>> projects. I know we can include pictures with posts on the > TrailerSailor > >>> site (why not here?) but I would like to see some whole new albums like > >>> on > >>> MSOG. > >>> > >>> Henry > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Sent from Gmail Mobile on Windows 10 phone > >>> > >>> > > -- > > John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > > -------------------------------------------- > > - Eco-Living - > > Whole Systems Design Services > > People - Place - Learning - Integration > > john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 > > http://eco-living.net > > http://sociocracyconsulting.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 22:19:09 -0600 > From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where to post Pictures to the Group? > Message-ID: > <CA+TbpAUSw2F=gPWOGtyFkDO1P=FSbx01Ejjx_jtb4L_oX= > 6pNw(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Now that I have accessed my email again I am at the end of my knowledge of > what you just spoke about. sorry. > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > > This > email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. > www.avast.com > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > > <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:14 PM, <casioqv(a)usermail.com> wrote: > > > The MSOG site doesn't seem to get frequent updates anymore. > > > > What do you guys think about starting a Montgomery/Sage Wiki that anyone > > can edit > > or upload to? It would be sort-of like wikipedia, but just for Montgomery > > sailboats. > > > > We could run something on a free tier Amazon Web Services (AWS) server, > but > > it would have an awful computer generated random hostname of some sort. > > > > Sincerely, > > Tyler > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Henry Rodriguez" <heinzir(a)gmail.com> > > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" < > > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 2:51:39 PM > > Subject: M_Boats: Where to post Pictures to the Group? > > > > Is it possible to post new pictures to the MSOG or MSOG PHOTO site? I > have > > looked at, studied, and, in some cases, drooled over each existing > picture > > many times. I would love to see updated pictures and some new/different > > projects. I know we can include pictures with posts on the TrailerSailor > > site (why not here?) but I would like to see some whole new albums like > on > > MSOG. > > > > Henry > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from Gmail Mobile on Windows 10 phone > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 22:20:26 -0600 > From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where to post Pictures to the Group? > Message-ID: > <CA+TbpAUsO26pSr4tfMiteaJMP8=FccCwmbjWTC3DZ= > baBvvBRQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Sounds good. Any idea when? > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > > This > email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. > www.avast.com > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > > <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Msogphotosite isn't done with an update and yet ready for new photos. It > > will be! > > > > :: Dave Scobie > > On Jan 26, 2016 4:52 PM, "Henry Rodriguez" <heinzir(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Is it possible to post new pictures to the MSOG or MSOG PHOTO site? I > > have > > > looked at, studied, and, in some cases, drooled over each existing > > picture > > > many times. I would love to see updated pictures and some > new/different > > > projects. I know we can include pictures with posts on the > TrailerSailor > > > site (why not here?) but I would like to see some whole new albums like > > on > > > MSOG. > > > > > > Henry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Sent from Gmail Mobile on Windows 10 phone > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 22:24:15 -0600 > From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Old Rope > Message-ID: > < > CA+TbpAVuyK+gFGc_mDhqyuh_7hTm1MUif0aP-385s7f0bE9o1w(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Henry, > I was thinking of having a small heater on board with you just to see how > condensation affected you or any other things you might have not thought of > so haven't addressed until you have been surprised on a lake somewhere far > away from your shop. > Google "Bailing Out On Texoma Sailfest" and you will get the low down on > what the festivities entail. > Tom > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Henry Rodriguez <heinzir(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Sleeping outdoors during a Minnesota winter has never been very high on > my > > list of things to do, and it certainly is not going to make my bucket > list > > this year. I don't care if it is on a boat, it is still Outdoors! > > > > Tell me more about the Texoma gathering. That is stil a long way for me > > but might be something to put on the bucket list. > > > > Henry > > > > > > On Tuesday, January 26, 2016, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Hi Henry, > > > Next January is far enough away that it might be possible to include a > > trip > > > to AZ. in my wife's and my travel wishes for 2017. I would really like > to > > > make one of those. It is great fun sailing with similar or same boats. > > And > > > the other half of the fun is finding out what others do to solve > problems > > > or make their boats more comfortable. > > > I am shooting this year for the get together on lake Texoma north of > > > Dallas. It is a 500 mile haul so a good shakedown trip for even longer > > > adventures. > > > Have you tried sleeping aboard your boat where it is stored for the > > winter? > > > That would be very informative, I bet. > > > I use that "Trailer Sailor " site. Will look into posting some pictures > > > there of my grand bateau. > > > > > > Tom B > > > < > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > > > > > > This > > > email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. > > > www.avast.com > > > < > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > > > > > > <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Henry Rodriguez <heinzir(a)gmail.com > > > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Tom, > > > > I don't think the turning radius of the sheaves will be a problem. > > > > Dyneema/Spectra is being used to replace towing cables on ocean going > > tug > > > > boats where it is repeatedly wound around winches. Off-road > > enthusiasts > > > > are using it on their truck mounted winches. It is also being used > in > > > the > > > > logging industry instead of logging chains. > > > > I'm sure there is a minimum turning radius for a given diameter of > > > line. I > > > > haven't googled it but I don't think the sheaves on our wee ships > will > > > > cause a problem. (As long as they are grooved for rope, not wire.). > The > > > > main and jib halyards do not turn 180 degrees on single sheaves > anyway. > > > > They turn 90 degrees on one side of the mast, go across the masthead, > > and > > > > then turn down 90 degrees on the other side. (Can't find the *~?!^* > > > > "degree" key on this keyboard!) > > > > > > > > Even if the halyard were to lose 50% of its strength because of > > improper > > > > turning radii it would still have a breaking strength of 1000 lb! > > > > > > > > > > > > Tom, any chance of you going to GO's WICR in Phoenix next January? > I'm > > > > going to do my best to get there (from Minneapolis.). I would love to > > see > > > > your boat in person and steal/ swap ideas! Got some great ideas > when I > > > > went last year. In the mean time, post lots of pictures! > > > > > > > > Which brings up another subject: can we post new pictures or albums > on > > > the > > > > MSOG or MSOG PHOTO sites? I'll post that question on a new thread so > > as > > > > not to hijack this one. > > > > > > > > > > > > Henry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, January 26, 2016, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com > > > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Henry, > > > > > I thought of using that stuff too. Am curious how it stands up to > > being > > > > > rolled over sheaves like at the mast head, repeatedly. I read it > > > doesn't > > > > > hold knots well but it is easy to eyesplice. Neat idea about > covering > > > it > > > > > with the outer shell of older lines. > > > > > Tom B > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. > > > > > www.avast.com > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > > > > > > > > > > <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Henry Rodriguez < > heinzir(a)gmail.com > > > <javascript:;> > > > > > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I am using 1/8" Dyneema for jib,spinnaker,and main halyards. The > > > 1/8" > > > > > size > > > > > > is as strong as 1/8" wire (2000 lbs), easy to splice, and is so > > light > > > > it > > > > > > floats. I added a 1/4" cover to the tail end of each halyard to > > make > > > > > > it easier to handle. I obtained the covers by pulling the cores > > out > > > of > > > > > > some old 1/4" double braid I had laying around. I threaded the > > > Dyneema > > > > > > through the covers with a small diameter knitting needle. I am > > going > > > > to > > > > > > experiment this spring with adding an additional 5/16 or 3/8" > cover > > > > over > > > > > > the few feet of halyard tail that actually goes around the winch > > and > > > > into > > > > > > the cleat, the part you really pull on. The covers are strictly > > for > > > > > > comfort/convenience. The Dyneema alone is extremely strong, > > > > lightweight, > > > > > > and has Zero stretch. > > > > > > > > > > > > FWIW, Amsteel Blue 1/8" Dyneema is $0.46/ft at West Marine. We > > just > > > > > missed > > > > > > their annual Bulk Rope Sale where, if I remember correctly, it > was > > > > > > $.029/ft! Don't be fooled by the name Amsteel Blue. It comes > in a > > > > > variety > > > > > > of colors. > > > > > > > > > > > > APSLTD.com is still having their January rigging sale offering > 25% > > > off > > > > > > their regular prices. They also sell 1/8" Amsteel Blue Dyneema > for > > > > > > $0.46/ft but the sale price brings it to $0.35. > > > > > > > > > > > > APS has lots of cool information about covering halyards, > stripping > > > > > > halyards, etc. They carry just about every kind of sailboat line > > > > > available > > > > > > and give lots of guidance on choosing the best line for a > > particular > > > > > > purpose. Their print catalog makes for good winter browsing, ask > > for > > > > > one. > > > > > > > > > > > > Henry > > > > > > Monita M17 > > > > > > Chiquita VN 23 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, January 26, 2016, Conbert Benneck < > chbenneck(a)gmail.com > > > <javascript:;> > > > > > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/26/2016 9:43 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Tom, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you go to a WEST Marine catalog you can find dacron or other > > > > special > > > > > > > lines, with a small diameter but very high tensile strength. > > Maybe > > > > you > > > > > > > might consider replacing a halyard with one of these. More > than > > > > enough > > > > > > > strength for the job, but very small and light weight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Connie > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Thin lines aloft help deal with windage (drag and making the > > hull > > > > roll > > > > > > off > > > > > > >> to leeward). I have found that going to something like 3/8 on > > the > > > > main > > > > > > >> sheet helps my hands grip the line more comfortably though. > > > > > > >> < > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> This > > > > > > >> email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by > > Avast. > > > > > > >> www.avast.com > > > > > > >> < > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Sent from Gmail Mobile on Windows 10 phone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Sent from Gmail Mobile on Windows 10 phone > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from Gmail Mobile on Windows 10 phone > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 22:26:18 -0600 > From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where to post Pictures to the Group? > Message-ID: > <CA+TbpAUK= > SQDjN+ro9a5rCtsWB1R2LjMhhaue9fPucOZjecQNA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Ok. lets all use that for photos. We can refer to that if we want to show > pictures of what we are doing with our boats now. > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > > This > email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. > www.avast.com > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > > <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Bill Wickett <billwick(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Why not just post, pics and all to the Montgomery forum on TrailerSailor? > > It is all set up. The Monty forum there is certainly underutilizes > compared > > to some of the other class forums on that site. You don't even have to > deal > > with the main board if you don't want to. > > > > Bill > > > > > On Jan 26, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Keith R. Martin < > > keith.richard.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I think John's suggestion of using a yahoo group has a lot of > merit.... > > > > > > Keith > > > > > > > > > *Keith R. Martin, P.Eng.* > > > > > > *Burnaby, B.C. CanadaSerenity,** M17 Hull #353* > > > > > > > > > > > >> On 26 January 2016 at 15:14, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> One suggestion... > > >> > > >> Move to a Yahoo group, which has file and picture sharing and the > option > > >> to get mail or view messages on web or both. > > >> I'm in a few other groups (including sailboat groups) that use Yahoo > > >> groups and it works well to augment the e-mail listserv piece we > already > > >> have. Pictures can be in "albums" as well so it's not just one big > pile > > of > > >> pictures. > > >> > > >> This list is AFAIK a mailman listserv - e-mail list - which is > basically > > >> all mailman does (and does it very well, for decades now, but, it's > > just an > > >> e-mail list server, doesn't provide any other features/functions) > > >> > > >> There are other more techie options I won't go into now because they > > >> involve upgrading the MSOG site to something we can all "join" and > then > > >> have ability to share pictures, files, etc.. > > >> > > >> cheers, > > >> John S. > > >> > > >>> On 01/26/2016 03:04 PM, Thomas Buzzi wrote: > > >>> > > >>> I second that notion. A picture is worth a....well you know the rest. > > We > > >>> are an inventive bunch. Why not set up something where we can share > our > > >>> knowledge and inspiration? Especially in these long, dark, cold, > > frozen, > > >>> blustery (have I missed any adjectives?) winters. Food for thought is > > food > > >>> for the spirit. (Have I missed any cliques?) > > >>> Warm breezes, > > >>> Tom B > > >>> < > > >>> > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > >>> This > > >>> email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. > > >>> www.avast.com > > >>> < > > >>> > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > >>> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > >>> > > >>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Henry Rodriguez <heinzir(a)gmail.com> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Is it possible to post new pictures to the MSOG or MSOG PHOTO site? > I > > >>>> have > > >>>> looked at, studied, and, in some cases, drooled over each existing > > >>>> picture > > >>>> many times. I would love to see updated pictures and some > > new/different > > >>>> projects. I know we can include pictures with posts on the > > TrailerSailor > > >>>> site (why not here?) but I would like to see some whole new albums > > like > > >>>> on > > >>>> MSOG. > > >>>> > > >>>> Henry > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile on Windows 10 phone > > >> -- > > >> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > > >> -------------------------------------------- > > >> - Eco-Living - > > >> Whole Systems Design Services > > >> People - Place - Learning - Integration > > >> john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 > > >> http://eco-living.net > > >> http://sociocracyconsulting.com > > >> > > >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 22:28:12 -0600 > From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where to post Pictures to the Group? > Message-ID: > < > CA+TbpAVrsTmokLW38joV7C-P18kNL16QNQQfxy0Rih7kH6TgZg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Quick trip. Back to the MSOG site. > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > > This > email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. > www.avast.com > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > > <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Bill Wickett <billwick(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Ah, good point Henry. No albums on trailer sailor. A Yahoo group or other > > similar would be better for that. ie the Nor'sea Yahoo group. If the MSOG > > site or the old photo site I think Dave Scobie is working on preserving > > allows that, then so much the better, wait for that. It may have the > older > > and still good content. > > > > Nonsuch boats have a Pbase photo site with something like that, but it is > > not administered anymore. Now just an orphaned photo site. > > > > Bill > > > > > On Jan 26, 2016, at 9:26 PM, Henry Rodriguez <heinzir(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > The TrailerSailor site is great for allowing you to include photos with > > a post in a particular thread but can you post a bucket load of pictures > > about a particular project or solution and organize them into albums or > > folders? I guess I?ll wait for the MSOG update. > > > > > > Sent from Outlook Mail for Windows 10 phone > > > > > > > > > From: Bill Wickett > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 8:01 PM > > > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where to post Pictures to the Group? > > > > > > Why not just post, pics and all to the Montgomery forum on > > TrailerSailor? It is all set up. The Monty forum there is certainly > > underutilizes compared to some of the other class forums on that site. > You > > don't even have to deal with the main board if you don't want to. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > On Jan 26, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Keith R. Martin < > > keith.richard.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > I think John's suggestion of using a yahoo group has a lot of > > merit.... > > > > > > > > Keith > > > > > > > > > > > > *Keith R. Martin, P.Eng.* > > > > > > > > *Burnaby, B.C. CanadaSerenity,** M17 Hull #353* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On 26 January 2016 at 15:14, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> One suggestion... > > > >> > > > >> Move to a Yahoo group, which has file and picture sharing and the > > option > > > >> to get mail or view messages on web or both. > > > >> I'm in a few other groups (including sailboat groups) that use Yahoo > > > >> groups and it works well to augment the e-mail listserv piece we > > already > > > >> have. Pictures can be in "albums" as well so it's not just one big > > pile of > > > >> pictures. > > > >> > > > >> This list is AFAIK a mailman listserv - e-mail list - which is > > basically > > > >> all mailman does (and does it very well, for decades now, but, it's > > just an > > > >> e-mail list server, doesn't provide any other features/functions) > > > >> > > > >> There are other more techie options I won't go into now because they > > > >> involve upgrading the MSOG site to something we can all "join" and > > then > > > >> have ability to share pictures, files, etc.. > > > >> > > > >> cheers, > > > >> John S. > > > >> > > > >>> On 01/26/2016 03:04 PM, Thomas Buzzi wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> I second that notion. A picture is worth a....well you know the > > rest. We > > > >>> are an inventive bunch. Why not set up something where we can share > > our > > > >>> knowledge and inspiration? Especially in these long, dark, cold, > > frozen, > > > >>> blustery (have I missed any adjectives?) winters. Food for thought > > is food > > > >>> for the spirit. (Have I missed any cliques?) > > > >>> Warm breezes, > > > >>> Tom B > > > >>> < > > > >>> > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > > >>> This > > > >>> email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. > > > >>> www.avast.com > > > >>> < > > > >>> > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > > > >>> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > >>> > > > >>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Henry Rodriguez < > heinzir(a)gmail.com> > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> Is it possible to post new pictures to the MSOG or MSOG PHOTO site? > > I > > > >>>> have > > > >>>> looked at, studied, and, in some cases, drooled over each existing > > > >>>> picture > > > >>>> many times. I would love to see updated pictures and some > > new/different > > > >>>> projects. I know we can include pictures with posts on the > > TrailerSailor > > > >>>> site (why not here?) but I would like to see some whole new albums > > like > > > >>>> on > > > >>>> MSOG. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Henry > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> -- > > > >>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile on Windows 10 phone > > > >> -- > > > >> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > > > >> -------------------------------------------- > > > >> - Eco-Living - > > > >> Whole Systems Design Services > > > >> People - Place - Learning - Integration > > > >> john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 > > > >> http://eco-living.net > > > >> http://sociocracyconsulting.com > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > montgomery_boats mailing list > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > ------------------------------ > > End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 155, Issue 38 > ************************************************* > -- *Antonio Martinez* *Middle River Studio* 540-248-3310 (h) 540-414-4782 (c)

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Re: M_Boats: Where to post Pictures to the Group?
by Bill Wickett 27 Jan '16

27 Jan '16

Ah, good point Henry. No albums on trailer sailor. A Yahoo group or other similar would be better for that. ie the Nor'sea Yahoo group. If the MSOG site or the old photo site I think Dave Scobie is working on preserving allows that, then so much the better, wait for that. It may have the older and still good content. Nonsuch boats have a Pbase photo site with something like that, but it is not administered anymore. Now just an orphaned photo site. Bill > On Jan 26, 2016, at 9:26 PM, Henry Rodriguez <heinzir(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > The TrailerSailor site is great for allowing you to include photos with a post in a particular thread but can you post a bucket load of pictures about a particular project or solution and organize them into albums or folders? I guess I’ll wait for the MSOG update. > > Sent from Outlook Mail for Windows 10 phone > > > From: Bill Wickett > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 8:01 PM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Where to post Pictures to the Group? > > Why not just post, pics and all to the Montgomery forum on TrailerSailor? It is all set up. The Monty forum there is certainly underutilizes compared to some of the other class forums on that site. You don't even have to deal with the main board if you don't want to. > > Bill > > > On Jan 26, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Keith R. Martin <keith.richard.martin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I think John's suggestion of using a yahoo group has a lot of merit.... > > > > Keith > > > > > > *Keith R. Martin, P.Eng.* > > > > *Burnaby, B.C. CanadaSerenity,** M17 Hull #353* > > > > > > > >> On 26 January 2016 at 15:14, John Schinnerer <john(a)eco-living.net> wrote: > >> > >> One suggestion... > >> > >> Move to a Yahoo group, which has file and picture sharing and the option > >> to get mail or view messages on web or both. > >> I'm in a few other groups (including sailboat groups) that use Yahoo > >> groups and it works well to augment the e-mail listserv piece we already > >> have. Pictures can be in "albums" as well so it's not just one big pile of > >> pictures. > >> > >> This list is AFAIK a mailman listserv - e-mail list - which is basically > >> all mailman does (and does it very well, for decades now, but, it's just an > >> e-mail list server, doesn't provide any other features/functions) > >> > >> There are other more techie options I won't go into now because they > >> involve upgrading the MSOG site to something we can all "join" and then > >> have ability to share pictures, files, etc.. > >> > >> cheers, > >> John S. > >> > >>> On 01/26/2016 03:04 PM, Thomas Buzzi wrote: > >>> > >>> I second that notion. A picture is worth a....well you know the rest. We > >>> are an inventive bunch. Why not set up something where we can share our > >>> knowledge and inspiration? Especially in these long, dark, cold, frozen, > >>> blustery (have I missed any adjectives?) winters. Food for thought is food > >>> for the spirit. (Have I missed any cliques?) > >>> Warm breezes, > >>> Tom B > >>> < > >>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > >>> This > >>> email has been sent from a virus-free computer protected by Avast. > >>> www.avast.com > >>> < > >>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai… > >>> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Henry Rodriguez <heinzir(a)gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Is it possible to post new pictures to the MSOG or MSOG PHOTO site? I > >>>> have > >>>> looked at, studied, and, in some cases, drooled over each existing > >>>> picture > >>>> many times. I would love to see updated pictures and some new/different > >>>> projects. I know we can include pictures with posts on the TrailerSailor > >>>> site (why not here?) but I would like to see some whole new albums like > >>>> on > >>>> MSOG. > >>>> > >>>> Henry > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile on Windows 10 phone > >> -- > >> John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design > >> -------------------------------------------- > >> - Eco-Living - > >> Whole Systems Design Services > >> People - Place - Learning - Integration > >> john(a)eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 > >> http://eco-living.net > >> http://sociocracyconsulting.com > >> > >> >

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