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NW Rendezvous?
by Harvey Hochstetter 21 Jan '02

21 Jan '02

Larry, Bob, (and all NW M_boat sailors), I like your idea of maybe two NW get togethers, ( I don't think I can spell rendezvous right too many times :) Deena and I were aced out of our trip up to your neighborhood, last fall, (so we are still looking forward to a trip up there some time this summer. It sure would be fun to see a Montgomery fleet on one of those N Idaho lakes. I would need to build some skill and confidence before I set out in the San Juans comfortably, but I do love that area. I grew up on Vancouver Island and spent many a day out on the water there in an 8 foot dingy. Bob, you mentioned considering one of the big eastern Washington lakes. That might be closer for any of the Oregon folks that may be interested. I would be interested in knowing which ones you are thinking of? The only one I know anything about is Chelan. It's a BIG lake, nice clear water, deep, with very steep rocky shores except at each end. There are Forest Service camping sites along the middle and upper thirds, and accommodations at the lower end, ( Chelan area ) that range form basic Super 8 Motel to some very fine (read expensive) resorts and Bed and Breakfasts. The upper end at Stehekin does have accommodations too, and it has campgrounds, and lodges and B&B establishment. Most of those reserve early in the season would be my guess. There would be some better anchorages up there, however that is a 55 mile sail from Chelan and 30 mile up lake from the State Park at 25 mile Creek. There are two spots on the rivers down near us that do have pretty reliable winds. One on the Columbia, at Hat Rock State park just up river from McNary Dam by Hermiston, Oregon. There is a private RV park just about a mile from the park and launch site there, and about 15 - 25 miles of river sailing or more if you wanted to go all the way up to Tri-Cities ( Pasco, Kennewick, & Richland ) to where the Snake runs into the Columbia. The other would be at Charbanou (?spelling ) about 8 miles up the Snake River past Ice harbor Dam. This is where the Tri-Cities Yacht Club sails out of. There is navigable river from there for about ( from memory ) 30 - 40 miles up the river. Neither of these have the nice clean clear water of any of the previously mentioned lakes. There is all I know for now. Ideas. Lets hear from the rest too. We need lots of input, and it sure will be fun to get together, anywhere. Harvey & Deena M-15 #348 PELICAN Walla Walla, WA

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Re: M_Boats: Positive Floatation
by Harvey Wilson 20 Jan '02

20 Jan '02

Hi Connie.. What was the stock number of the W-M fasteners that you used to latch the sail locker lid down ?? Harvey/Ga M-17 Stargazer #294

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Re: M_Boats: The Two Sands
by Rotortom2＠aol.com 20 Jan '02

20 Jan '02

Howard, I have been thinking of an appropriate method of tracking the "flow" of the Two Sands, and you obviously have come up with a way to do it before my brain lept into gear! (Sometimes I wonder whether or not my brain is capable of leaping into gear.) I will send the Two Sands to Stan, along with the names I print off of the list. Tom

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Re: M_Boats: The Two Sands
by Rotortom2＠aol.com 20 Jan '02

20 Jan '02

Howard, put me in line! Tom Woodworth Box 495 21 Skycrane Lane Veguita, NM 87062 Thanks in advance. Tom M-17 "Wild Hare"

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Re: M_Boats: Re: Twin Forestays
by Conbert H Benneck 20 Jan '02

20 Jan '02

Steve, Dual head sails - on twin head stays - is used for Trade wind sailing. >From the Canarie Islands to Barbados; or Transpacific. i.e., it is a solution for a very specific sailing problem; running for days and days on long passages. I doubt that any owner of an M15 is contemplating such a trip. For any sailing that I've done with the M15, I can't think of any situation where I'd want to go to the complication of dual head stays. It sure isn't worth the hassle for a 1 hour run! Stay with the original set-up and if you really have to have a new toy, then get a genniker and enjoy that. Connie ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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M_Boats NW Rendezvous ! ! !
by Harvey Hochstetter 20 Jan '02

20 Jan '02

Larry, (and anyone else interested in a NW Rendezvous,) Good Morning. Haven't had much time to be looking at this list so from what is backed up I'm sure I have been missing a lot, however, Deena told me there was something on the list about a NW get together so I have started at the end of the list and working my way back up the list. After watching the snow come down outside most of the night, the thoughts of a group of Montgomerys, sails full and pushing up into blue skies, clear blue water and a hint of heal in hulls, is really appealing. The idea of a group sail is also motivating and I am really looking forward to it. We would love to take "Pelican" to most anywhere in the Northwest. To me, it would seem logical to see who is interested, and from where and then find somewhere in the middle. Of course giving some preference to things like consistent winds, good water, interesting area, launching and mooring facilities, lodging requirements and organizational requirements should be weighed in as well. There are probably dozens of great places to sail, we just need to sort them out and pick a place. Naturally, scheduling is a B I G factor. Need to know ahead of time to schedule time off for those interested is paramount. For some of us, time off is flexible more or less, and some it is not an issue, others it is a major factor. Being of the working type, and not having much flexibility in my time off, it depends on when it is whether we would be able to go or not. My work week runs from Wednesday to Wednesday, and my following Wednesday to Wednesday is for the most part, time off, except for travel time to work. It is an every other week schedule that is almost set in concrete. For that reason, if we can set it up for the week that I am off work, we for sure will plan on being there, otherwise it becomes very "ify". I don't know what kind of, or how much work there would be to setting this up or making the arrangements, but I would be glad to do what I can to help. I didn't know anything about the San Juan rendezvous last fall, maybe we weren't on the list or it fell on a work week and just passed it off, but it may be interesting to know about as well. We are interested in a NW get together, let's do it. Harvey & Deena M-15 #348 PELICAN Walla Walla, WA

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New M15 "Duet" Web Site
by Vincent S. Himsl 20 Jan '02

20 Jan '02

Hello, We have finished our web site for 'Duet', our new M15. Please check it out and let us know what you think. If you have suggestions such as more detailed pictures of this and that, we would like to hear about it. http://personal.palouse.net/vhimsl/ Regards, Vince and Sharon Himsl DUET Moscow, ID

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Re: M_Boats: Positive Floatation
by AirEvacLen＠aol.com 19 Jan '02

19 Jan '02

In a message dated 1/19/02 9:21:26 AM US Mountain Standard Time, chbenneck(a)juno.com writes: > The only solution would be to try to grab the Cigarette driver's > gold chain, or his girlfriend's bikini thong and be jerked to safety. > > Remember: The name of the game is to keep all water outside the boat! > AMEN...... Lenny

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Re: M_Boats: Positive Floatation
by Conbert H Benneck 19 Jan '02

19 Jan '02

Allow me to make a penultimate comment about M15 floatation. You're all worrying about keeping the boat afloat after it is full of water. How much floation is needed....? Go at it from the other end. The name of the game is KEEP THE WATER OUT OF THE BOAT, and the boat will keep floating! One thing that nobody addressed and which is crucial, is that sail locker hatches need some form of fastener so that in the event of a knock-down; etc. the locker lids don't fly open and allow all the water to flow into the boat. I did this with hasps for small locks that I found in WEST's catalog. They are installed so that they can't accidentally open by themselves. You have to exert a bit of force to open the hasp. This means that while I'm sailing, the sail locker lids are firmly closed - with closed cell foam seals under the lids to make them waterproof - and stay that way; until I open them. If the going gets rough, then by all means insert your hatch boards in the companionway, and close the companionway sliding hatch cover. When I made my new hatch boards, I cut them so that I have to lift the companionway cover about 1/8th of an inch in order to slide it open. That gives me a positive closing latch to keep hatch boards in place, and it prevents the companionway sliding hatch from sliding open of it's own accord. With hatchboards installed; and sail locker lids mechanically held shut; the most that should happen - if you have a knock-down - would be a bit of water down below through the clearance gaps in the hatch boards. If you do what I just outlined, there should be no possibility of getting major amounts of water inside the boat unless you are hit broadside by a Cigarette doing 50 knots. Then, even having hatchboards in place won't help. The only solution would be to try to grab the Cigarette driver's gold chain, or his girlfriend's bikini thong and be jerked to safety. Remember: The name of the game is to keep all water outside the boat! Non-locking sail locker lids, on any sailboat, is an invitation to disaster. Connie ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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Re: M_Boats: Rendezvous?
by Bob Olson 19 Jan '02

19 Jan '02

Always interested in any NW rendezvous(es). Had a blast sailing out of Boston Harbor last year with the Potter people. Idaho is a bit of a trek for me (Seattle). Wonder if one of the big eastern washington lakes might make a good rendezvous point? Bob Olson M-15 "Piccolo" >Hello fellow sailors, > It is once again vacation planning time and naturally, the first >thought that comes to mind is; >Are there any Montgomery rendezvous happening in the Northwest? There >was some interest expressed last fall in an Inland Northwest get-together >on one of the big Idaho lakes this coming season. I guess I'm just >wanting to start the dialog and see if, where, and when the best time is >so those involved can start planning vacation times. Also, is the San >Juan rendezvous that fell though last fall of interest to anyone for this >year? >Larry Yake >M17 #200 >Tullamore

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