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Re: M_Boats: Hatchboards
by Randy Watkins 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

Todd, I installed new hatch boards on my M15 and went with three. That's the set up now used by the factory. I think it's the same with the M17. Regards, Randy & Greta Watkins >>> htmills(a)bright.net 02/13/02 10:03PM >>> Thanks for the link, Russ.....I wasn't familiar with that windvane. On my old computer I didn't see anything about a tiller tamer but that wouldn't be the first time. I'll check the site out tomorrow on the work 'puter. Regarding hatchboards. I was at a lumberyard this afternoon getting some wood for the self-steering oar and also bought some plywood for new hatchboards. My present hatchboards are painted on the outside because, I'm told, the veneer was damaged at some point in its life. They measure 3/8" thick and look like teak? and are in two pieces. The new plywood I bought is ash, much lighter. (thought I'd try something different; not sure how I'll like it) I carelessly assumed they were only 1/4" and that's what I bought, except that it only measures in at 3/16". This happy little accident of fate means that I can take two thicknesses and laminate them together with the best face on BOTH sides out. (actually, both faces were pretty good, but one is better). I plan to seal them with epoxy and then coat that with varnish. What I'm wondering is this: should I repeat the arrangement with two hatchboards or....should I go with three and have the third, bottom one with some holders on it for gps, radio, etc? I would like a board with holders, but maybe that should be a separate piece altogether that I'd take out to button up? One drawback would be that a lower hatchboard would make it harder for my crewmembers and me, to a much lesser extent, to come and go from the cabin. Any thoughts? Thanks, Tod _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Sheet-to-Tiller Steering
by stevemc35＠attbi.com 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

Can someone explain to me the theory and practice of so called "Sheet to Tiller" steering? I've heard it mentioned but have never seen it and am not sure how it works. Is it a sort of "poor man's self-steering mechanism"? Does it really work? -- Steve McClellan 1981 M15 #152 stevemc35(a)attbi.com

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TILLER LOCK
by Roberta & Mark Dvorscak 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

Here is the link to the Canadian Tiller Lock website. http://www.cansail.com/ I have one of these on my M17 and it works very well. It is also a very simple, durable product. Mark Dvorscak M17 #400 GRACE

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Re: M_Boats: TILLER LOCK
by LVLakeSailor＠aol.com 13 Feb '02

13 Feb '02

My thoughts exactly on the tiller lock! When I get Mighty Mouse home, the first thing that gets installed is a "bungee with jam cleat" tiller tamer! A singlehanders best friend. Chuck M-15 Mighty Mouse (soon to be finished)

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Re: M_Boats: Tiller tamer
by AirEvacLen＠aol.com 13 Feb '02

13 Feb '02

Tom Had one on my M-17 and found it very useful...........The 17 is a bit sensitive to balance though, and the tiller tamer is not an auto-pilot. It does give you that needed break from hanging on to the tiller when things are all trimmed up...... Lenny M-23 # 003 Sea Horse

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RE: M_Boats: Tiller tamer
by Tom Smith 13 Feb '02

13 Feb '02

I use a setup similar to Steve Tyree's, except I use two bungee loops with a length of line tied between them. So there's a bungee loop over the port stern cleat with a piece of line between it and the loop on the starboard cleat. No knot tying...just flip the loop over both cleats and it remains taut between until you pull it forward and into the cleat on the underside of the tiller. Easy. Cheap. Tom Smith and Jane Van Winkle M15/345 -- Chukar Sandpoint, Idaho Tom Smith LineSoft Corporation Phone: 509-928-1707 ext. 248 Fax: 509-928-2581 E-mail: tsmith(a)linesoft.com Website: www.linesoft.com -----Original Message----- From: IDCLLC(a)aol.com [mailto:IDCLLC@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 4:48 AM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Tiller tamer I use a very simple tiller lock on my P-15 that has served me well. It consists of a long, heavy bungee cord fastened from one stern cleat to the other, and a jam cleat mounted on the underside of the tiller and about 8" forward of the bungee. To use, simply pull the bungee up onto the jam cleat while on course. I've found it easy to micro adjust, and have cruised hands off for upwards of 10 minutes this way. Considering the greater directional stability of the M-boats, I think it would work even better for you, and the price is right! Steve Tyree, P-15 #2098 "Amy Ann"

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RE: M_Boats: Tiller tamer
by Morris, Giles 13 Feb '02

13 Feb '02

>I can't recommend the Davis brand tiller tamer I'm afraid that I have to agree here. I replaced the one on Umiaq once before giving up on it. Good implementations of the idea do exist, though. Dolphin has a strong all-metal device that works well, and is strong enough that if it breaks I'll have other more pressing things to deal with. Giles Morris Vancouver 25 "Dolphin" Montgomery 15 "Umiaq" Sundry small craft

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RE: M_Boats: Tiller tamer
by Shawn Boles 13 Feb '02

13 Feb '02

T: I have a tiller-tamer on my M-17. It is a simple and useful tool. Make sure you install per manufacturer's instructions. cheers- Shawn Boles Grey Mist (M17 #276 1978) -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Wilkinson [mailto:ttwilki@mindspring.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 8:37 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Tiller tamer Has anyone put a "tiller tamer" on an M17? I'm trying to set mine up for single handing so would like to be able to leave the tiller for a brief period of time. Tom

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Re: M_Boats: Tiller tamer
by IDCLLC＠aol.com 13 Feb '02

13 Feb '02

I use a very simple tiller lock on my P-15 that has served me well. It consists of a long, heavy bungee cord fastened from one stern cleat to the other, and a jam cleat mounted on the underside of the tiller and about 8" forward of the bungee. To use, simply pull the bungee up onto the jam cleat while on course. I've found it easy to micro adjust, and have cruised hands off for upwards of 10 minutes this way. Considering the greater directional stability of the M-boats, I think it would work even better for you, and the price is right! Steve Tyree, P-15 #2098 "Amy Ann"

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San Juans
by Saltm17＠aol.com 12 Feb '02

12 Feb '02

Doug, A site for the San Juans http://www.whidbey.net/~nis/ John

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