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Re: M_Boats: Hatchboards
by Conbert H Benneck 15 Feb '02

15 Feb '02

John, Sorry, I do not have any pictures of my lower hatchboard. Connie ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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Re: Fw: M_Boats: Sheet-to-Tiller Steering
by stevemc35＠attbi.com 15 Feb '02

15 Feb '02

Thanks Tod for the links -- this is exactly what I was looking for! However, one BIG thing is troubling me. Am I completely nuts?? Is it not true that, as your vessel turns more off the wind, assuming no easing of the sheets, that tension on the sheets would INCREASE? and vice versa, that as your vessel points more to weather, assuming no trimming of the sheets, that the tension on the sheets would decrease? Obviously I must be wrong about that or else, if I am interpreting all the pictures (both yours and others') correctly they rely on the opposite assumption, that tension on the main sheet will decrease as you start to point more off the wind. So all I want to know is, is my assumption incorrect, or am I mis-interpreting the pictures? It looks to me that in your picture, for instance, if the tension on the sheet INCREASED it would point you MORE AWAY from the wind. is that right? -- Steve McClellan 1981 M15 #152 stevemc35(a)attbi.com > Thanks to Judy B. for forwarding the address (below) of OarClubJay's > alternative arrangement.... > > ---------- > > Date: Wed, Feb 13, 02 20:28:15 > > From: Judith Franklin Blumhorst, DC > > To: Mills, Tod > > Subject: RE: M_Boats: Sheet-to-Tiller Steering > > > > Tod, > > > > Here's the post on the Potter TSBB > > http://trailersailor.com/forums/potter/index.cgi?read=9933 > > > > Best, Judy B > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: montgomery_boats-admin(a)mailman.xmission.com > > [mailto:montgomery_boats-admin@mailman.xmission.com]On Behalf Of > > htmills(a)bright.net > > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2893 3:44 PM > > To: >Mboats< > > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Sheet-to-Tiller Steering > > > > > > Steve, > > > > There is a real good explanation of it at this web page: > > > > http://www.oarclub.org/page12.html > > > > A couple pictures of the arrangement I've been using for > > wind abeam or higher are here: > > > > http://www.trailersailor.com/uploads/selfsteer01.jpg > > http://www.trailersailor.com/uploads/ssinside.jpg > > > > Oar Club Jay had an arrangement I want to try this summer; there > > is a sketch of it on the trailersailor Potter forum from about a > > month or so ago. I don't have the address handy for that. > > > > Tod > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Oar Leathers
by Howard A 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

Here's a question I've not seen posted before. How, exactly, do you install the buttons on oar leathers? I've only seen one oar with leathers on it, and they laced the leather on, then wrapped the button around the top end and nailed it down. It didn't look right to me, but maybe that's how it's done. Howard

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Re: M_Boats: Oar Leathers
by Steve R 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

Good question Howard. Let me ask another... what is the purpose of oar leathers? I have seen references to them, but I am puzzled. Do they go between your hands and the oars or the oars and the oar locks? Also has anyone mounted oar locks on a M-15? Thanks in advance, Steve R. Montgomery 15 #119 Lexington, KY --- Howard A <haudsley(a)tranquility.net> wrote: >Here's a question I've not seen posted before. > >How, exactly, do you install the buttons on oar leathers? I've only seen >one oar with leathers on it, and they laced the leather on, then wrapped >the button around the top end and nailed it down. It didn't look right >to me, but maybe that's how it's done. > >Howard > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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RE: M_Boats: Hatchboards
by Tom Smith 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

This sounds like a great idea for jib and genoa sheet stowage on the windward side. I've contemplated permanent attachment points for canvas bags, but I like the idea of not drilling holes. I'll look at this.... Tom Smith and Jane Van Winkle M15/345 -- Chukar Sandpoint, Idaho I found some bags made out of a coated net material with suction cups that hold quite well on the cockpit backrest. I stick my GPS in there. See WEST catalog page 377 "Sticky Pockets" under Storage Solutions. I used the teak binocular holder - WEST item No. 126294 (4 drink/binocular holder) page 373. I cut it so that it was narrower on the bottom than at the top in order to give the main sheet a bit of clearance. It has worked fine - no design changes needed Connie ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: Hatchboards
by Saltm17＠aol.com 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

Connie, Do you have any pics of the lower hatchboard? John Miss T M17 # 372

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Re: M_Boats: Hatchboards
by Conbert H Benneck 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

Randy, I found some bags made out of a coated net material with suction cups that hold quite well on the cockpit backrest. I stick my GPS in there. See WEST catalog page 377 "Sticky Pockets" under Storage Solutions. I used the teak binocular holder - WEST item No. 126294 (4 drink/binocular holder) page 373. I cut it so that it was narrower on the bottom than at the top in order to give the main sheet a bit of clearance. It has worked fine - no design changes needed Connie ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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Re: M_Boats: Hatchboards
by Conbert H Benneck 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

Randy, The hatchboard I built that has the binocular and radio holder is 6 1/2" high. I can't tell you what the size of the lower hatchboard is because it is on the boat which is buried under it's winter cover. It could well be that I kept it as low as possible - while still fulfilling it's other functions - to make getting in and out of the cabin easy. Give me a yell in Spring when I get the cover off and then I can give you all the dimensions. Connie ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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Re: M_Boats: Hatchboards
by Randy Watkins 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

Connie a question- on your extra lower hatch that you use for stowage, is it the same height as the other lowest hatch board? I made an extra one also and mounted my compass and will add some type of bag or something to hold my gps and vhf. The other 2 boars can fit on top land I can leave in place. Does anyone have a suggestion on a bag for a gps. Randy W. M15#194 >>> chbenneck(a)juno.com 02/14/02 11:04AM >>> Tod, When I rebuilt my hatchboards on LEPPO, I made them in three pieces. After using them for the past years, I still like my three piece hatchboards. You have smaller parts to stow. I built a new lower hatchboard which has a binocular holder (doubles as the beer can holder when the binoculars are not in use); and a holder for my small Grundig radio (held in place with a small bungee cord and hook). This makes a very nice arrangement. Music and drinks readily at hand while sailing. Yes, you do have to step over it to go below; but it is - even with everything in place - not too heavy to lift out if you want easier access to the cabin. I also use the lower regular hatchboard as the base to hold my companionway table. If you just have two hatchboards, then the table will be too high for ease of use. Connie M15 #400 LEPPO ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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Re: M_Boats: Hatchboards
by Conbert H Benneck 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

Tod, When I rebuilt my hatchboards on LEPPO, I made them in three pieces. After using them for the past years, I still like my three piece hatchboards. You have smaller parts to stow. I built a new lower hatchboard which has a binocular holder (doubles as the beer can holder when the binoculars are not in use); and a holder for my small Grundig radio (held in place with a small bungee cord and hook). This makes a very nice arrangement. Music and drinks readily at hand while sailing. Yes, you do have to step over it to go below; but it is - even with everything in place - not too heavy to lift out if you want easier access to the cabin. I also use the lower regular hatchboard as the base to hold my companionway table. If you just have two hatchboards, then the table will be too high for ease of use. Connie M15 #400 LEPPO ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

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