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Re: M_Boats: Rudder Rod
by Kevin Sandwick 30 Jun '18

30 Jun '18

Dave and Jerry, Thanks for the reply, Exactly the info I needed. While "neglected" is too strong of a description for # 400, she is due for some TLC. We are getting to know each other and getting along just fine. The wind is blowin and now it's time to go for a sail. Thanks again. Kevin, Nauti-Cal ________________________________ From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com> on behalf of montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com <montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2018 1:00 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 184, Issue 20 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Rudder Rod (Kevin Sandwick) 2. Re: Rudder Rod (Dave Scobie) 3. Re: Rudder Rod (jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 20:52:49 +0000 From: Kevin Sandwick <ksandwick(a)hotmail.com> To: "montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Rudder Rod Message-ID: <DM3PR16MB0569C7C12BC5DA3868A334F3AA4E0(a)DM3PR16MB0569.namprd16.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Looking for information on the rudder control rod. The shaft is bent on the boat I recently acquired. I was able to install the rudder but due to the bends in the rod I cannot raise the rudder. Is this part available or do I need to have one made? I have found an online source for C464 "Marine" brass but could use info on exact dimensions or better advice. As always.....Thanks. Kevin M-17 #400 (1985) ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 13:56:36 -0700 From: Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Rudder Rod Message-ID: <CAGjBOA6gjUHC6AhkGBNaTUCuw35g58K0Nx7dPs4igMgDxx544Q(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" The rod is silicone bronze. Not sure the dimensions as mine is currently in use keeping the rudder on the boat ;-) Today is #61 living aboard! :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com On Fri, Jun 29, 2018, 1:53 PM Kevin Sandwick <ksandwick(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Looking for information on the rudder control rod. > > The shaft is bent on the boat I recently acquired. I was able to install > the rudder but due to the bends in the rod I cannot raise the rudder. > > Is this part available or do I need to have one made? > > I have found an online source for C464 "Marine" brass but could use info > on exact dimensions or better advice. > > As always.....Thanks. > > Kevin > > M-17 #400 (1985) > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2018 14:29:26 -0700 From: <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Rudder Rod Message-ID: <E2272F6541DB48B9B6429E07AB0AA1B9@CH002914> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Silicone bronze is fine; aluminum bronze is better, stainless is a distant third. it's 1/2", I don't remember the length but it shouldn't be hard to figure it out. For many years we used 316 stainless and drilled holes at the base to lock the rod in place with cotter keys but too many of them went bombs away when being installed so when we switched to alum bronze we had a step milled in the base, to /3/8", and changed the bottom gudgeon to 3/8, which is what we should have done in the first place. If your bottom gudgeon is drilled to 1//2" I'd suggest taking it to a machine shop and having I plate welded on, drilled to 3/8. At the same time have them turn about 3/4" of the end of the rod to 3/8 and you're gopopd to go. Don't forget the bedding. You can probably get the rod from McMasters. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Scobie Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 1:56 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Rudder Rod The rod is silicone bronze. Not sure the dimensions as mine is currently in use keeping the rudder on the boat ;-) Today is #61 living aboard! :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com On Fri, Jun 29, 2018, 1:53 PM Kevin Sandwick <ksandwick(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Looking for information on the rudder control rod. > > The shaft is bent on the boat I recently acquired. I was able to install > the rudder but due to the bends in the rod I cannot raise the rudder. > > Is this part available or do I need to have one made? > > I have found an online source for C464 "Marine" brass but could use info > on exact dimensions or better advice. > > As always.....Thanks. > > Kevin > > M-17 #400 (1985) > ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ montgomery_boats mailing list montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! ------------------------------ End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 184, Issue 20 *************************************************

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Re: M_Boats: drink holder on board
by bownez＠juno.com 27 Jun '18

27 Jun '18

Size 13's can take BIG drinks! HA! Mr. B. ____________________________________________________________ We Say Goodbye To Lara Spencer risingstarnewspaper.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5b33c6909b54746905badst01vuc

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Re: M_Boats: drink holder on board
by bownez＠juno.com 27 Jun '18

27 Jun '18

What I commonly do is remove my shoes while sailing. Thus, I have two size 13 cup holders on the cockpit floor. Mr. Bones ____________________________________________________________ 1 Cup Of This (Tonight) Will Burn Your Belly Fat Like Crazy Wise Med http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5b3388c49638f8c44b74st04vuc

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drink holder on board
by David Grah 26 Jun '18

26 Jun '18

We made a short (narrow in height) hatch board to which we mounted cup holders. That makes drinks handy when sitting up at the front of the cockpit (as Dave Scobie suggests for sailing efficiency). That board idea came from Connie Benneck, a great resource on this list. As good as the board with the cup holders work, I admit we mostly set drinks on the floor and are careful. That actually works fine most of the time. David GrahBishop California Message: 10 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 15:23:17 -0700 From: doug <doug9326(a)gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: drink holder on board Message-ID: <4D93F889-1FFB-4BCF-BB98-A7BD86D42173(a)gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yesterday on my first sail of my M-15 I was missing my drink holder. What do you use for a drink holder if you do not have a stern bow pulpit to attach it to.

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Re: M_Boats: drink holder on board
by Robert Goodyear 26 Jun '18

26 Jun '18

I put some detachable holders on my bottom hatch board. Sent from my iPhone Bob Goodyear 732-684-1738 cell > On Jun 25, 2018, at 6:56 PM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Keep it Short & Simple - GREAT Doug! > > > :: Dave Scobie > :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com > >> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018, 3:55 PM Doug <doug9326(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I like that about her. KISS...keep it short(15') and simple! >> >> ⁣Sent from BlueMail >> >> On Jun 25, 2018, 4:47 PM, at 4:47 PM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> M15 is a simple boat Doug. Don't overcomplicate her - just slows her >>> down!!! >>> >>> >>> :: Dave Scobie >>> :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com >>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018, 3:42 PM doug <doug9326(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I thought about getting a stern pulpit just for drink holders and mob >>> gear >>>> though in fifty years of sailing I have never had anyone fall >>> overboard. >>>> Fingers crossed. Not dead yet. >>>> >>>>> On Jun 25, 2018, at 3:38 PM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Doug. >>>>> >>>>> I use nalgene bottles or soda bottles. Set them in the corners of >>> the >>>>> footwell so they don't roll far. >>>>> >>>>> Some do use those holders that suction cup to cabin side (I don't >>> like >>>> for >>>>> two reasons: lines catch on them and eventually they pop loose at >>> an >>>>> inopportune time). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> :: Dave Scobie >>>>> :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com >>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2018, 3:23 PM doug <doug9326(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Yesterday on my first sail of my M-15 I was missing my drink >>> holder. >>>> What >>>>>> do you use for a drink holder if you do not have a stern bow >>> pulpit to >>>>>> attach it to. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >

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drink holder on board
by doug 25 Jun '18

25 Jun '18

Yesterday on my first sail of my M-15 I was missing my drink holder. What do you use for a drink holder if you do not have a stern bow pulpit to attach it to.

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Sail flat or on the side
by doug 25 Jun '18

25 Jun '18

I took my M-15 out for its first sail with me at the tiller yesterday. Beautiful day and under 10kts of wind….good for a first sail of this boat. But a question came up quickly when I was cruising across the lake. Do these M-15’s sail better on the bottom or on the side. I think that says it. I did both yesterday and using my weight could balance the boat or if I shifted to the other side could sail the boat on its side. Any opinions on that one. I am not trying to squeeze every tiny bit of speed out of her, but just wondered how others sail the M-15. I would appreciate any thoughts or experience along this line.

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Sailing on Ross Lake, WA
by Jason Leckie 25 Jun '18

25 Jun '18

Has anybody sailed on Ross Lake in the North Cascades National Park in Washington State? I have been eyeing it up for a few years and hoping to bring my Montgomery there. There is a launch ramp at the northern end of the lake in BC. Was wondering the condition of the ramp etc. Been camping at Diablo Lake which is the next lake down below the dam of Ross and is a gorgeous lake with glacial blue water. On Fri, Jun 22, 2018, 10:49 AM , <swwheatley(a)comcast.net> wrote: > If it isn't too late, you and your wife are welcome to come over to > Duxbury and join me for a sail on my M17, which is a 1976 and mostly > identical to yours. Perhaps she will change her mind if she experiences a > little of the Zen of sailing first hand. > > Stan Wheatley > > > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com> On > Behalf Of Leonardo J. Velazquez > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2018 1:06 PM > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: M-17 for sale, Massachusetts > > Yes, it is the same boat. I bought it last September in Stockton Springs > Maine. > > I haven’t used it or done anything to it other than winterizing the 2011 > Tohatsu 3.5 HP, 4-stroke engine. > > I’m selling it because the wife refused to go on it as we are (I am) > getting into sailing from power boating. > > You can see pictures of it at Sailinglistings.com and at Craigslist > Southcoast MA. I plan on taking more pictures this weekend to post soon. > > Leonardo > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 22, 2018, at 11:24 AM, <swwheatley(a)comcast.net> < > swwheatley(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > > Montgomery 17s are scarce as hen's teeth here in New England and this > looks like it might be a rare opportunity for someone local to pick one up. > I remember seeing an M17 with the portlight holes glassed over for sale > awhile back, although I don't remember if it was in New England at that > time. Presumably this is the same boat. If the glasswork was done well, I > would consider that a bonus and pop in some nice bronze or stainless > elliptical portlights. > > > > Stan Wheatley > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com> > On Behalf Of John Tyner > > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 7:49 PM > > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats < > montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > Subject: M_Boats: M-17 for sale, Massachusetts > > > > Just browsing around and saw this > > > > http://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/73730 > > > > thought someone out there might be interested. > > > > John Tyner > > > > M-15#412 "Chimpanzee" > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Fwd: Sailing on Ross Lake, WA
by Jason Leckie 25 Jun '18

25 Jun '18

Just in case others are interested..I mistakenly disconnected our email from the group.. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Jason Leckie <leckie.jas(a)gmail.com> Date: Sun, Jun 24, 2018, 8:52 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Sailing on Ross Lake, WA To: David Grah <d_b_grah(a)yahoo.com> Yes, it does look like a good ramp from Google maps with a dock to tie up to. Thanks for the info. On Sun, Jun 24, 2018, 5:43 PM David Grah, <d_b_grah(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > As I remember the ramp was a good paved ramp with adequate set up area. I > don't remember if there was a dock or not though Google Earth seems to show > one. > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Jason Leckie <leckie.jas(a)gmail.com> > *To:* David Grah <d_b_grah(a)yahoo.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, June 24, 2018 3:32 PM > *Subject:* Re: M_Boats: Sailing on Ross Lake, WA > > Thanks David Grah, just wanted to make sure that the ramp is decent. I > have never launched my boat before and it doesn't have the tongue extension > so just wanted some reassurance that after that drive I wouldn't have any > issues with getting the boat in the water. Sounds like its all good. > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2018, 7:30 AM David Grah, <d_b_grah(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > I made that video and it seems like others covered most of the details > pretty well. My brother, with the Montgomery 17 and who isn't active on the > list, goes to Ross Lake fairly often. It is an excellent destination though > a fairly long dusty road in. Going in through Canada was fairly > straightforward as I remember, though I was headed further north for a few > weeks. > > David Grah > Bishop California > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 13:57:02 -0700 > From: Jason Leckie <leckie.jas(a)gmail.com> > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: M_Boats: Sailing on Ross Lake, WA > Message-ID: > <CAD2xLySaMWkaV0_woYwRtfU+0WUy9FjhGV+rNRdoSk8c3a1jZQ(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Has anybody sailed on Ross Lake in the North Cascades National Park in > Washington State? I have been eyeing it up for a few years and hoping to > bring my Montgomery there. There is a launch ramp at the northern end of > the lake in BC. Was wondering the condition of the ramp etc. > > Been camping at Diablo Lake which is the next lake down below the dam of > Ross and is a gorgeous lake with glacial blue water. > > > >

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Cruiser Challenge
by jerry＠jerrymontgomery.org 24 Jun '18

24 Jun '18

There are 21 entries for the Cruiser Challenge, even tho the race is over a month away. 2 M-15’s, three 17’s, and a Sage 17

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