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unsubscribe me please
by Helga Berliner 13 Mar '13

13 Mar '13

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Mainsail cover
by Rick Davies 12 Mar '13

12 Mar '13

Spring is here (almost), and I'm thinking about a mainsail cover for Lynne L. Does anyone have any experience with the pre-patterned cover made and sold by sailboatowners.com? Do they fit well, what's the workmanship like, etc. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Rick M-17 #633

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Main sail cover
by Eeeisen＠aol.com 12 Mar '13

12 Mar '13

I order a main sail cover kit from Sailrite many years ago and it was easy to sew together. It still looks good and fits well. Dorothy Eisen #495 1992 Motu iti M17 fixed keel

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Re: M_Boats: Shroud tension
by Rick Davies 08 Mar '13

08 Mar '13

Joe, What tension did you put on the upper and lower shrouds? Thanks, Rick M-17 #633 Lynne L Joe Murphy <seagray(a)embarqmail.com> wrote: >I too had problems "figuring out what's snug and what's tight" so I went with the advice to use the Loos. They're expensive ($75) but now I realize that what I thought was tight was terribly loose. >Joe >SeaFrog > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rick Davies > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 10:18 AM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Shroud tension > > > Dave, > > I noticed the email in which you mentioned a youTube video on shroud > adjustment, but couldn't find it on youTube. If you did upload it, could > you pass on the link? Since the only advice I've heard on M-17 shroud > tensioning is "snug, but not tight", I'd like to find some way of figuring > out what's snug and what's tight. > > Thanks, > > Rick > M-17 #633 > Lynne L > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 7:12 PM, W David Scobie <wdscobie(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Tom: > > > > SWEET PEA's, my M17, lee shrouds (upper and lower) are loose when going to > > weather ... when blowing a lot less than 25. > > > > i have shrouds just loose enough that i can get the mast up and down > > without adjustment (i just adjust the backstay). > > > > the lowers should be a bit looser than the uppers. > > > > i have a video that Eldor (aka, 1/2 of the good ship MOTU ITI) helped me > > make last summer. about 35 seconds showing how 'snug' (Jerry's term) the > > shrouds are on SWEET PEA. i'll upload the vid to youTube this evening and > > share the link. > > > > > > :: Dave Scobie > > :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/26/13, Tom Jenkins <tjenk(a)gte.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi gang, > > > I am usually too busy under such conditions, but I noticed > > > that the lower lee shrouds on my M17 show a little slack > > > when I beat to weather at wind speeds over 25 knots. I > > > am reluctant to start a tightening regime because the > > > shrouds are just loose enough for me to raise and lower the > > > mast without loosening and tightening the turnbuckles each > > > cycle. Should I be concerned with the situation? > > > Can one expect some permanent stretching of the shrouds with > > > use? Will the presumed slight bowing of the mast to > > > leeward be a problem? > > > > > > Thanks in advance for your comments. > > > > > > Tom Jenkins > > > M17 Scintilla > > > > > > >

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Re: M_Boats: Shroud tension
by bownez＠juno.com 07 Mar '13

07 Mar '13

Rick, It would be nice if you could borrow one. Once you get the feel on how tight the standing rigging should be, you really don't need one. Good luck. B. ____________________________________________________________ Fast, Secure, NetZero 4G Mobile Broadband. Try it. http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT2

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Re: M_Boats: Shroud tension
by bownez＠juno.com 07 Mar '13

07 Mar '13

Rick, I found some old notes that state: Forestay 25 Backstay 20 Upper shroud 22 Lower shroud 20 Bones ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5136c652c722246522c3dst04vuc

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Re: M_Boats: Shroud tension
by Rick Davies 06 Mar '13

06 Mar '13

Bones, What approximate numbers do you come up with for upper and lower shroud tension? Thanks Rick M-17 #633 Lynne L "bownez(a)juno.com" <bownez(a)juno.com> wrote: >Hello Listers, > >I purchased a Loos gauge shortly after getting my M17. I would set my stays and shrouds to 10% of breaking strength, per Loos instructions. >I always felt it was too tight. > >Later I came by an article stating that the Loos measurement tool can be quite inaccurate, especially comparing one to another. > >Now a days, I tighten by feel, and use the Loos gauge to compare shroud tension side to side to make sure they are equal. (P to S). > >Final test is to take her for a brisk sail, and on a hard beat, the Leeward shrouds just go slack. > >I now use this method on both of my M boats. > >FWIW. > >Bones >____________________________________________________________ >Woman is 53 But Looks 25 >Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... >http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/51367996d9b3a799616fast03vuc >

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Re: M_Boats: Shroud tension
by bownez＠juno.com 05 Mar '13

05 Mar '13

Hello Listers, I purchased a Loos gauge shortly after getting my M17. I would set my stays and shrouds to 10% of breaking strength, per Loos instructions. I always felt it was too tight. Later I came by an article stating that the Loos measurement tool can be quite inaccurate, especially comparing one to another. Now a days, I tighten by feel, and use the Loos gauge to compare shroud tension side to side to make sure they are equal. (P to S). Final test is to take her for a brisk sail, and on a hard beat, the Leeward shrouds just go slack. I now use this method on both of my M boats. FWIW. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/51367996d9b3a799616fast03vuc

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Shroud tension
by Tom Jenkins 05 Mar '13

05 Mar '13

Hi gang, I am usually too busy under such conditions, but I noticed that the lower lee shrouds on my M17 show a little slack when I beat to weather at wind speeds over 25 knots. I am reluctant to start a tightening regime because the shrouds are just loose enough for me to raise and lower the mast without loosening and tightening the turnbuckles each cycle. Should I be concerned with the situation? Can one expect some permanent stretching of the shrouds with use? Will the presumed slight bowing of the mast to leeward be a problem? Thanks in advance for your comments. Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla

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Compass, knot, depth gauges, gps.
by Thomas Buzzi 02 Mar '13

02 Mar '13

Since it has been about 15 years since last buying a knot meter,depth gauge or gps, does anybody have any recommendations as to which brand is a good cross between quality and price or is it a matter of "1st class or no class"? Tom B.

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