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Tracks and Stand up Blocks
by Robert Hall 22 Jun '11

22 Jun '11

Hello All, Recently found 2 pieces of T track and a pair of stand up blocks among my sailing stuff. Am new to M 15 ownership and wonder if installing this kit on my boat would help in shaping the jib. Comment from more experienced sailors than I would be welcome, including where best to install the items to produce the most positive effect. My knowledge of the boat so far is limited to what I have read or heard so there may be more naïve questions sent to the group . Thanks. RTH.

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Need advice offline
by kdocter 21 Jun '11

21 Jun '11

Need some advice off line. I dismantled my M-15 kick up rudder to repair a damaged trailing edge. Can't remember how all the parts go back together. Someone please contact me. Need pictures and/or video. kdocter(a)bellsouth.net

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bent mast Todd
by Flickasf 21 Jun '11

21 Jun '11

Todd, I must have missed your point, your humor? The metal shop used a huge hydraulic press in combination with wood blocks on two steel tables to straighten the spar. Bert Felton

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Sailing on Father's day
by Daniel Rich 20 Jun '11

20 Jun '11

Had a wonderful sail today on Kestrel. Here is a link to my blog post and video: http://danielgrich.users.sonic.net/?p=86 Sorry to bore you with these. But every time I post a video I get asked to post more. I think folks like to look at M15's sailing, especially if they are interested in buying one. So, here is another video. Interestingly, I had myself and 4 crew if you count the dog. That is quite a few folks for an M15, but she handled quite well despite the load. I also tried the standard wood rudder blade for the first time, and must admit, I prefer it. Daniel M15 #208 Kestrel

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Re: M_Boats: bent mast due to major screw up.
by Martha Ekwurtzel 19 Jun '11

19 Jun '11

Thanks a bunch! jerry <jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org> wrote: >martha- Sounds like an even bend to me, but you should easily be able to see >it; just take the mast off the boat and sight down it and get a saw horse, >or move the couch out in the front yard. Two people should be able to >easily do the job on a 15. > >jerry >----- Original Message ----- >From: <SALGLESSER(a)aol.com> >To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 3:44 PM >Subject: Re: M_Boats: bent mast due to major screw up. > > >> Hi Martha, >> >> I think you should be able to visually see a kink. Bend a straw slowly >> until it "kinks". There should be an obvious crease. >> >> sal >> >> >> In a message dated 6/18/2011 3:27:27 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, >> marthaekwurtzel(a)aol.com writes: >> >> Thank you Sal. >> >> >> This weekend I made quite few mistakes. Thank goodness the M-15 is >> forgiving. >> >> I am going to have to research this, but love the idea of jumping on the >> mast. Sure enough when loaded on the trailer the mast had a definite >> "swoop" to it, and really wanted to lay in it's resting place only in one >> position. >> >> Kinked tube? Is that a visual diagnostic I can make myself? >> >> Martha >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: SALGLESSER <SALGLESSER(a)aol.com> >> To: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >> Sent: Sat, Jun 18, 2011 3:13 pm >> Subject: Re: M_Boats: bent mast due to major screw up. >> >> >> Hi Martha, >> >> Probably the first mistake you ever made? >> >> I think the major question would be if the tube is kinked? If the tube >> isn't kinked, you might be able to straighten it. We had a Monty come >> through the Sage Marine boat house a few weeks ago with a bent mast. >> Jerry and >> >> Dave set the mast on the ground with props and jumped on it until is was >> straight. Worked just fine and the boat went on to sail. >> >> Maybe we can Jerry to chime in with his "tricks"? >> >> sal >> >> >> M15 - "Justus" - 1986 - #361 >> S17 - "Air Born" - 2011 - #001 >> >> >> In a message dated 6/18/2011 11:24:42 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, >> marthaekwurtzel(a)aol.com writes: >> >> >> Yesterday while waiting to load my M-15 at a crowded boat launch, I >> failed >> to notice an overhanging tree branch and backed the boat's mast right >> into a high branch, just catching the tip of the mast and bending it >> forward >> in a severe curve from the halfway point upwards. Screams from the >> crowd >> ensued and although just a few feet had been traveled the Oak Tree did >> not >> give way and the mast now has a forward lean which seems to originate at >> about the half way point curving possibly 3 or 4 degrees.. >> >> I am crushed to have allowed such a stupid error. Can damage to the >> mast >> like this be corrected? >> >> Sign me, >> >> long- time- sailor- who-should- have- know- better. >> >> Martha >> >> 2001 M-15 Knot Head. Bone-head) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> >> When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> >> When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> >> When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> >> When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! > > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: bent mast due to major screw up.
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 19 Jun '11

19 Jun '11

Hi Martha, I think you should be able to visually see a kink. Bend a straw slowly until it "kinks". There should be an obvious crease. sal In a message dated 6/18/2011 3:27:27 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, marthaekwurtzel(a)aol.com writes: Thank you Sal. This weekend I made quite few mistakes. Thank goodness the M-15 is forgiving. I am going to have to research this, but love the idea of jumping on the mast. Sure enough when loaded on the trailer the mast had a definite "swoop" to it, and really wanted to lay in it's resting place only in one position. Kinked tube? Is that a visual diagnostic I can make myself? Martha -----Original Message----- From: SALGLESSER <SALGLESSER(a)aol.com> To: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sat, Jun 18, 2011 3:13 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: bent mast due to major screw up. Hi Martha, Probably the first mistake you ever made? I think the major question would be if the tube is kinked? If the tube isn't kinked, you might be able to straighten it. We had a Monty come through the Sage Marine boat house a few weeks ago with a bent mast. Jerry and Dave set the mast on the ground with props and jumped on it until is was straight. Worked just fine and the boat went on to sail. Maybe we can Jerry to chime in with his "tricks"? sal M15 - "Justus" - 1986 - #361 S17 - "Air Born" - 2011 - #001 In a message dated 6/18/2011 11:24:42 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, marthaekwurtzel(a)aol.com writes: Yesterday while waiting to load my M-15 at a crowded boat launch, I failed to notice an overhanging tree branch and backed the boat's mast right into a high branch, just catching the tip of the mast and bending it forward in a severe curve from the halfway point upwards. Screams from the crowd ensued and although just a few feet had been traveled the Oak Tree did not give way and the mast now has a forward lean which seems to originate at about the half way point curving possibly 3 or 4 degrees.. I am crushed to have allowed such a stupid error. Can damage to the mast like this be corrected? Sign me, long- time- sailor- who-should- have- know- better. Martha 2001 M-15 Knot Head. Bone-head) _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!

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M- 15 Bow Pulpit
by Robert Hall 19 Jun '11

19 Jun '11

Good morning All. Does anyone know where I can get a bow pulpit for my boat? Thanks, RTH.

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Re: M_Boats: bent mast due to major screw up.
by Martha Ekwurtzel 19 Jun '11

19 Jun '11

I am going to try this for sure! Thanx very much. eisenee(a)aol.com wrote: > >Several years ago we drove our M17 under a tree and twisted it like a pretzel. We put one end under a car bumper , and over a saw horse and heaved down on the other end until we got it streight enough to sail.but still had a forward bend o0n top. A month ago we were at the SAGE Marine factory and told Jerry M about our problem He told me to take it off the boat and we could streighten it. >We sighted down the mat , put the center of the bendon a saw horse3 and 2 people on each end and heaved until it was streight >.. You will have to sight and bend, move the bent area over the saw horse and heave as many times as necessary. What do you have to loose? >Sorry for the delay in replying we are now on Larry Yakes San Juan cruise and have not had i-net for several days > >Eldor >M17 Motu iti > > > > >---- Original Message ---- >From: robbin roddewig <robbin.roddewig(a)verizon.net> >To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> >Sent: Sat, Jun 18, 2011 1:46 pm >Subject: Re: M_Boats: bent mast due to major screw up. > > >Hi Martha, >tuff happens but in the overall scheme of things this sounds fairly >ecoverable. Hopefully for not too much money and effort. I cannot >laim to have any structural engineering background but I would have to >magine it would be good to replace the tube of the mast and not try to >traighten the mast. Dwyer mast http://www.dwyermast.com/ has lots of >ube cross sections. You should be able to move all the components to >he new tube. If it is setup like my M-23 mast the tangs for the >hrouds are bolted on and the mast head fitting can be moved along with >ny base. I don't remember is the M-15 mast has speaders but these >ould be moved by drilling out the rivets and re-riveviting. If you >eed to rivet stainless steel rivets order a rivet tool from Jamestown >istributors, I have split and ruined what is available at Home Depot >nd Tractor Supply, they are not made for stainless rivets. >ake sure the the mast tabernacle area was not damaged as well. >Best of luck and let us know what you do and how it goes. >Robbin >On 6/18/2011 1:24 PM, marthaekwurtzel(a)aol.com wrote: > Yesterday while waiting to load my M-15 at a crowded boat launch, I failed >o notice an overhanging tree branch and backed the boat's mast right into a >igh branch, just catching the tip of the mast and bending it forward in a >evere curve from the halfway point upwards. Screams from the crowd ensued and >lthough just a few feet had been traveled the Oak Tree did not give way and the >ast now has a forward lean which seems to originate at about the half way >oint curving possibly 3 or 4 degrees.. > > I am crushed to have allowed such a stupid error. Can damage to the mast like >his be corrected? > > Sign me, > > long- time- sailor- who-should- have- know- better. > > Martha > > 2001 M-15 Knot Head. Bone-head) > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! > >_______________________________________________ >ttp://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! > >_______________________________________________ >http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: Mast problems
by marthaekwurtzel＠aol.com 19 Jun '11

19 Jun '11

'Hi, Michelle! Thank you very much; what a thoughtful offer! My boat lives in Wisconsin and unfortunately, I believe the masts for the two boats are different enough so that they would not be interchangeable. I bet there are some other Montgomery 12 owners that would be interested in you mast . I've included the address of the Montgomery owners forum after your own email address above in "To". Thanks again for your generous offer, Good Fishing! Martha -----Original Message----- From: Michelle <dinkum1(a)aol.com> To: marthaekwurtzel <marthaekwurtzel(a)aol.com> Sent: Sat, Jun 18, 2011 5:38 pm Subject: Mast problems Good Evening, I've been reading your posts regarding your mast problems. Sorry to hear about it. We have a Montgomery 12 which we use as a fishing boat (without the mast). The mast has been stored safely here at our home. I don't know if it is able to work with your 15 but we are willing to let our mast go as we will never use the boat as a sailboat. Additionally, I'm not sure where you're located. We are located in Northeast Florida. Michelle Holland P.S. Would you be kind enough to send me the link to the montgomery owner's group. For some reason the Yahoo Group is not the one that you're using and obviously I belong, but I cannot figure out where to find the group. :-( I got an Old Fat Boat She's Slow But Handsome Hard In The Chine, but Soft In The Transom I Love Her Well, And She Must Love Me But I think It's Only For My Money . ..... Gordon Bok

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bent mast
by Flickasf 19 Jun '11

19 Jun '11

When I purchased my used M 15, I had a similar bend. I took it to a marine mental shop and for less than $100, they straightened. Bert

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