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Question about build structure of M17
by Andrei Caldararu 27 Apr '09

27 Apr '09

Hello, due to a silly mistake on my part (I disconnected the sink drain pipe before the winter, and forgot to reconnect it before going sailing) I ended up with the cabin submerged under about four inches of lake water in my 1982 galley model M-17. After a lot of work I managed to drain it all out; from what I can see there is no more water anywhere (looking towards the back, under the benches, and/or forward towards the bow in the area under the sleeping quarters, where the water tank and battery are). However, the following very annoying thing happens: if I drive the boat around for even 5 minutes, water starts collecting in front of the wall separating the storage compartment at the bow from the main cabin (the little wall where the main electrical switches are). And not just a little bit: after thinking that the boat was completely dry, yesterday I took a quarter of a bucket of water out. The water that comes out looks reasonably clean. This makes me think that there is still a large stash of water hiding somewhere where I can't see or reach it. Any ideas where it might be? Perhaps Jerry can chime in, knowing all the nooks and crannies of the boat? My best guess would be that the water hides in the space between the main hull and under the cabin sole; but for what I was able to see these two form a watertight compartment. Is that true? If not, how can I reach that space? I don't want water to stay in the boat and start creating mold, and surely I don't want my main storage area to get wet every time I drive... Thanks for any suggestions. Andrei.

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WTB M15/M17 on East coast
by Chet Orton 27 Apr '09

27 Apr '09

Hi, all. I'm in the Raleigh/Durham NC area and am searching for a decent used Monty. I'm willing to drive several hours. Thanks. -Chet chet.orton(a)gmail.com

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Re: M_Boats: new M23 to get wet
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 26 Apr '09

26 Apr '09

Hi Jerry, Glad to hear that your boat will be close behind mine. Maybe you can get some use out of your slip fees Funny, your boat would be so close behind mine. Mine was paid for long before you ordered yours. Bob must like you better. best, sal **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220814855x1201410739/aol?red ir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=A prilfooter426NO62)

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Re: M_Boats: new M23 toget wet
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 26 Apr '09

26 Apr '09

Hi Jim, Thanx for the words of encouragement. It's got a dark green Hull, white deck, tanbark sales. The pictures that we took in early April were of the "boat in process". still had lots or work to do. When was your M15 scheduled to be complete? best, sal In a message dated 4/26/2009 9:44:10 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, boats(a)meridianleeward.com writes: Hey Sal! That's great news!! Be sure to keep us posted. I'm sure lots of us would love to see some pictures. I'm also hoping to take delivery of my new M15 sometime in the not too distant future. Fair Winds, Jim on 4/23/09 11:23 PM, SALGLESSER(a)aol.com at SALGLESSER(a)aol.com wrote: > Hi all. I¹ve not posted much, but I¹ve been enjoying all of the posts on > the board. Fred said the M boat people were a good group. I¹m convinced. > All seem to be friendly and helpful. It¹s especially nice to see the > designer and even the builder with helpful comments. We don¹t own an M boat > yet, but we¹re expecting ours very soon. Bob Eeg promised that our new M23 > would be absolutely positively ready to sail on May 20th. He¹s sending the > insurance and registration information now so we can drive it back home. > Looking forward to getting our boat and chatting with all of you. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220814855x1201410739/aol?red ir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=A prilfooter426NO62)

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Montgomery 15 #288 for sale
by W David Scobie 26 Apr '09

26 Apr '09

The Montgomery 15 named SCRED is for sale. Hull #288 built by Jerry Montgomery in 1984. She is a turn-key boat and ready for day-sail or cruising. Always been dry stored with no bottom paint. New, as in never been used, footless main with two reefs. 2005 Honda 2HP motor. New electrical system installed winter '08-'09. SCRED comes with: ground tackle, fenders, docking lines, porta-potti, full boat storage cover and much more. She is a gem and you will be hard press to find an M15 of equal condition available in the NW. Trailer is in fair condition. I'm only selling SCRED due to purchase of an M17. Boat is in Orting, WA. Pictures, blog, movies and sailing history can be viewed at http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred. $6500. dave scobie M17 #375 - sweet pea M15 #288 - SCRED (for sale)

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new M23 toget wet
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 26 Apr '09

26 Apr '09

Hi all. I’ve not posted much, but I’ve been enjoying all of the posts on the board. Fred said the M boat people were a good group. I’m convinced. All seem to be friendly and helpful. It’s especially nice to see the designer and even the builder with helpful comments. We don’t own an M boat yet, but we’re expecting ours very soon. Bob Eeg promised that our new M23 would be absolutely positively ready to sail on May 20th. He’s sending the insurance and registration information now so we can drive it back home. Looking forward to getting our boat and chatting with all of you. sal **************Big savings on Dell XPS Laptops and Desktops! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10012 6575x1219799634x1201361008/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B214133440%3B36002254%3Bj)

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M17 Trail Rite Trailer Refurb‏ - Update
by al williams 26 Apr '09

26 Apr '09

Installed new axle, hubs and springs this afternoon. I bought the parts from Dave's Boat Trailers in Glen Burnie, MD. They didn't have an axle on the shelf and could not determine the right size to order. So I took the parts and old axle to a welder they recommended and he built me a new one. Back on schedule for Memorial Day weekend launch and cruise. -al williams _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmailآ®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Up…

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Re: M_Boats: Furlers
by Bonnie Kostka 25 Apr '09

25 Apr '09

I have been given a Harken Furler for my M15 and was told my sail would have to be cut down and a wire run through it. Also the small boat Harken Furler doesn't go on your headstay but either behind or infront of it. Does anyone have any experience with this? I would appreciate your input. Bonnie M15, Moonbeam --- On Tue, 4/21/09, montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com <montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> wrote: From: montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com <montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 74, Issue 35 To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 9:42 PM Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request(a)mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner(a)mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. too little time (dik lang) 2. PP finaleee... (Lou) 3. Re: too little time (Gary M Hyde) 4. Re: too little time (bownez(a)juno.com) 5. Re: PP finaleee... (John Ledger) 6. Re: PP finaleee... (W David Scobie) 7. Re: PP finaleee... (John Ledger) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:55:57 -0700 From: dik lang <diklang32(a)hotmail.com> To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: too little time Message-ID: <COL116-W28143412A5253562053710AC760(a)phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" It has come to that point in my life that I must give up some of my activities. Sorry that Montgomery 17 is on the list. Thought I would announce it here first because we all know how tongues wag when we see a Monty listed on craigslist! My 1983 M-17 Sweet Pea is now officially for sale. I probably won't actually get around to listing it for a couple days. Asking $5000, 4stroke 4 horse Suzuki with maybe 15 hrs on it, rusty trailer with new tires galvanized wheels, new springs, new standing rigging, two anchors, new bulkhead mount compass. Out of the water at my house on Vashon Island, Wa. DIK LANG diklang32(a)hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live?: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1b_explore_042009 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:28:19 -0400 From: "Lou" <capnlou(a)ec.rr.com> To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: PP finaleee... Message-ID: <1EF966C3BB2645ADBACD0CD609066CB1@PHOTOPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I hate to have made such a Boo Hoo about a bunch of P__ P___ and if it were just for me my good old bucket would surley do. I do appreciate everyones comments and now I feel good about buying the Tetford 135 unit. My thanks to all and especially Jerry for filling me in on the history of the PP... Lou Aliotta ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:50:40 -0700 From: Gary M Hyde <gmhyde1(a)mac.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: too little time Message-ID: <28FA5FCE-B3FE-45C9-BC76-1A1CC0C019C6(a)mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Dik: Sorry you won't be sailing with us. We will miss you. --Gary Hyde 2005 M17 sailboat #637 'Hydeaway 2' On Apr 20, 2009, at 3:55 PM, dik lang wrote: > > It has come to that point in my life that I must give up some of my > activities. Sorry that Montgomery 17 is on the list. Thought I would > announce it here first because we all know how tongues wag when we > see a Monty listed on craigslist! > > My 1983 M-17 Sweet Pea is now officially for sale. I probably won't > actually get around to listing it for a couple days. > > Asking $5000, 4stroke 4 horse Suzuki with maybe 15 hrs on it, rusty > trailer with new tires galvanized wheels, new springs, new standing > rigging, two anchors, new bulkhead mount compass. Out of the water > at my house on Vashon Island, Wa. > > DIK LANG > > diklang32(a)hotmail.com > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live?: Life without walls. > http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1b_explore_042009 > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 03:10:46 GMT From: "bownez(a)juno.com" <bownez(a)juno.com> To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: too little time Message-ID: <20090420.221046.4835.0(a)webmail19.vgs.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dik, Say it isn't so! Someone is going to get a very fine M17. Wishing you the best. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Free quote and debt consolidation information. Click Here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTIk3lyXU5ZEKuKIF2WdkDc3ec… ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:46:45 -0700 From: "John Ledger" <johnledger(a)aoi.org> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: PP finaleee... Message-ID: <450F19D17C66E44E91CB8AB11B7BE39302050B87(a)aoint2.aoi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does anyone know if this method works for a M15? ( the PP modification, not the bucket) JOHN In Oregon -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Lou Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 5:28 PM To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: PP finaleee... I hate to have made such a Boo Hoo about a bunch of P__ P___ and if it were just for me my good old bucket would surley do. I do appreciate everyones comments and now I feel good about buying the Tetford 135 unit. My thanks to all and especially Jerry for filling me in on the history of the PP... Lou Aliotta _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:26:08 -0700 (PDT) From: W David Scobie <wdscobie(a)yahoo.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: PP finaleee... Message-ID: <279306.76058.qm(a)web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 john: ? the discussion has been about the M15. ? a quote below from jerryM ? ? dave scobie M15 #288 - SCRED visit Scred's www-site: http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-sced ? ? quoting jerryM- ? jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org ? I think this is all documented in the archives.? I originally tooled the 15 for an exact fit for the PP35.? vA few years later Thetford dropped the 35, replacing it with the 135. I bought all the 35's that I could find in the pipeline, and when they ran out I retooled the mold to fit the 135. I have fit 135's to the 35 bases using a hair dryer, and others have done it using hot water.? In both cases patience and a beer in hand are helpful. jerry --- On Tue, 4/21/09, John Ledger <johnledger(a)aoi.org> wrote: Does anyone know if this method works for a M15? ( the PP modification, not the bucket) JOHN In Oregon -----Original Message----- I hate to have made such a Boo Hoo about a bunch of P__ P___ and if it were just for me my good old bucket would surley do.? I do appreciate everyones comments and now I feel good about buying the Tetford 135 unit.? My thanks to all and especially Jerry for filling me in on the history of the PP...? Lou Aliotta ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:43:43 -0700 From: "John Ledger" <johnledger(a)aoi.org> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: PP finaleee... Message-ID: <450F19D17C66E44E91CB8AB11B7BE393013EE7C0(a)aoint2.aoi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks, Should have caught it. ________________________________ From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com on behalf of W David Scobie Sent: Tue 4/21/2009 6:26 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: PP finaleee... john: the discussion has been about the M15. a quote below from jerryM dave scobie M15 #288 - SCRED visit Scred's www-site: http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-sced quoting jerryM- jerry(a)jerrymontgomery.org I think this is all documented in the archives. I originally tooled the 15 for an exact fit for the PP35. vA few years later Thetford dropped the 35, replacing it with the 135. I bought all the 35's that I could find in the pipeline, and when they ran out I retooled the mold to fit the 135. I have fit 135's to the 35 bases using a hair dryer, and others have done it using hot water. In both cases patience and a beer in hand are helpful. jerry --- On Tue, 4/21/09, John Ledger <johnledger(a)aoi.org> wrote: Does anyone know if this method works for a M15? ( the PP modification, not the bucket) JOHN In Oregon -----Original Message----- I hate to have made such a Boo Hoo about a bunch of P__ P___ and if it were just for me my good old bucket would surley do. I do appreciate everyones comments and now I feel good about buying the Tetford 135 unit. My thanks to all and especially Jerry for filling me in on the history of the PP... Lou Aliotta _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ montgomery_boats mailing list montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! End of montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 74, Issue 35 ************************************************

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Re: M_Boats: Porta-potti...
by W David Scobie 25 Apr '09

25 Apr '09

happy sitting ;-) dave scobie M15 #288 - SCRED visit Scred's www-site: http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred --- On Fri, 4/24/09, Lou <capnlou(a)ec.rr.com> wrote: I thought I was done with this PP stuff, but I got my Tetford 135 PP yesterday and it fits perfectly. Despite the dimensions given for the unit, it could not fit better. I didn't have to force it or use hot water or anything like that. Just thought you would like to know the final results... Lou Aliotta

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Porta-potti...
by Lou 25 Apr '09

25 Apr '09

I thought I was done with this PP stuff, but I got my Tetford 135 PP yesterday and it fits perfectly. Despite the dimensions given for the unit, it could not fit better. I didn't have to force it or use hot water or anything like that. Just thought you would like to know the final results... Lou Aliotta

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