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Re: M_Boats: Bottom Paint
by Larry E Yake 29 Apr '09

29 Apr '09

For trailer sailing fresh water you don't need anti-fouling paint. In your situation I don't think you can beat VC Performance Epoxy. It's a very durable hard shell two part epoxy, and with a teflon component, it's fast! Larry

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Re: M_Boats: headstay
by JDavies104＠aol.com 29 Apr '09

29 Apr '09

Arnold, PS to my recent email on the CDI furler, you must have a turnbuckle on the forestay. The furling drum fits right over it. Rick M-17 #633 Lynne L ************** Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000003)

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Re: M_Boats: headstay
by JDavies104＠aol.com 29 Apr '09

29 Apr '09

Joe is right - measure, measure, and then check your measurements. When you're done measuring, lay the forestay out on the ground with all the fittings (drum, etc) attached, and then lay the foil alongside before, repeat before, cutting the foil to length. Be sure to cut it long enough so it bears on the upper rod, not on the wire. Also be sure there are toggles on both ends of the forestay. I had to buy a new forestay to get this feature. I fitted a CDI FF2 to my M-17 last spring, and it is straightforward if you're careful, (particularly in uncoiling the foil), and pay attention to detail. Uncoiling doesn't take three people, in fact I did it alone, but it does take some thinking and preparation. As Joe says, read and re-read the directions and you'll be fine. The only unrecoverable error you can make is to cut the foil too short, which is avoided by actually cutting "in place", next to the forestay. Don't worry too much about the actual measurements. I mounted the drum and foil on the forestay with the forestay lying on the ground, then carried the whole assemble aboard for attachment to the mast. Much easier that way. The upside is that you'll love the furler. Rick M-17 #633 Lynne L ************** Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000003)

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Bottom Paint
by John and DesAnne Hippe 29 Apr '09

29 Apr '09

Hello All, Looking for a bit of advice regarding bottom paint. I am removing my old ablative antifouling paint that was on the boat when I purchased it. The current bottom paint on my boat has turned a dry, powdery blue/grey -- ugly. I am not sure of which paint to go with now. I have used Micron Extra with good luck in the past but that was on a boat that was launced and retrieved only once a season. I sail exclusively in fresh water. I dry store on my trailer and launch and retrieve about 50 times during the summer. So, I want something that will resist the abrasion of launching. I also want multi-season coverage that will look good over time. Your input would be much appreciated. Thanks, John

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First race of 09
by larrypegg＠aol.com 29 Apr '09

29 Apr '09

Well Pilgrim had her first race of 09 last weekend.? My wife and I had fun and we learned a great deal.? First, we have a lot to learn. Second, we need practice.? Third, we need to fix a few little things to make tacking, jibing and general boat handling easier.? Lastly, Pilgrim is a great boat that gets a lot of attention.? We had a great time and with a 15kt breeze the second day we got to practice quite a bit.? The first day was not so good but the Southern Idaho Sailing gang were great sports.? The second day with a more constant wind we had a better time and were at least making the course.? By the end of the second day we felt we had learned a great deal and can't wait to go again.? With our handicap we should be competitive,..... after we learn what to do. At your service Larry Pegg Pilgrim M-17 #55

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Re: M_Boats: M-15 Refit
by Blake Reimer 29 Apr '09

29 Apr '09

For what it's worth, I had water intrusion in my starboard locker on my M-15 IOTA when I first got her. Underneath, at the forward most bulkhead under the bunk there was one, itty-bitty blister looking ding in the hull and it was passing liquid right at the bulkhead. Grind, dry, patch, sand, fill, sand some more, a alittle gel coat, sand some more, wet sand, polish and it came out good as new! Good luck.

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headstay
by Arnold Sharpe 29 Apr '09

29 Apr '09

Help!!! I am in the process of buying all the stuff necessay to fit a CDI furler to my M-17 "Little Breeze" (hull #265, Aug. 1977). At present, the boat is on the hard with the mast down. Measuring all the existing forestay fittings (swaged stay and tensioner) I came up with a pin to pin (masthead to deck plate) length of 22ft-9-3/8in. Originally, and as used for the last few years, the boat came with an adjustable forstay tensioner instead of a turnbuckle. How does that measurement compare to other M-17's and have they changed over the years......"Little Breeze" is a sweet 30 year old. Am I missing anything here and/or has anyone had problems with this conversion? Hangten---Arnold Sharpe

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M-15 Refit
by John and DesAnne Hippe 28 Apr '09

28 Apr '09

I have continued with my refit. If you recall one of the issues is water infiltrating my hull and filling my storage lockers in the cabin. Well I followed Connie's suggestion and sealed up the cabin and pressurised it and then put high-tech bubble stuff on the likely spots trying to find where water was infiltrating my hull. No luck. Couldn't find a leak anywhere -- no signs of bubbling. Interestingly enough, however, water did come out at the leading edge of the keel where there is a crack. I had opened this up a couple weeks agon and water had drained out but had stopped. Today it resumed -- after I pressurized the cabin. Never got any bubbling -- but the water was coming out. Go figure. Anyway my plan is to epoxy up all the cracks I can find and hope for the best. I also sanded down the centerboard -- lots of dings from over the years. I will re-fair and paint this. I have also begun taking the old, ugly bottom paint off. Nasty work that. Fortunately I have a good respirator. Lots of blue dust flying around -- I ended up looking like a smurf afterwards... I have also received new standing rigging that I ordered from Jerry. Now I will feel more confident in heavy weather -- especially when up on Lake Superior with my two daughters. Will keep you all informed of the progress. I will take pictures later. John Hippe M-15 Jester

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Re: M_Boats: AMY M17 F/D Arrives safe in Washington
by W David Scobie 28 Apr '09

28 Apr '09

mark: welcome to the NW! are you sure AMY will understand all the 'wet stuff' that will now fall on her deck from the ever present clouds? ;-) dave scobie M17 #375 - sweet pea M15 #288 - SCRED (for sale) visit Scred's www-site: http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred --- On Tue, 4/28/09, Mark Escovedo <m17flushdeck_amy(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Ahoy Thar, Well I towed my M17 F/D AMY up to Washington on Friday, Left LA at 2:30pm, arrived at our destination at 10:30 am Saturday morning, safe and sound. A friend was kind enough to allow me to store "Amy" in her yard for the time being. Next weekend I will transfer the rest of my belongings to my new home in Camas, Wa. I was completely floored by the beauty of this part of the country. I think my little boat and I are going to be very happy here. I'll be keeping an eye out for other M boats in the Portland/Vancouver area. Fair Winds Mark E M17 F/D #103 AMY

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Re: M_Boats: do I need gel cell batteries in our M17?
by Michael 27 Apr '09

27 Apr '09

I've had both on the various boats that I have had. My last boat before the M-17 was a Hunter 31. Both batteries, wet cell, were located in the aft main berth. I have had them charging while I was sleeping being tied up at the dock with no ill affects. He may be thinking about when you put a battery on a charger and take off the caps as in the method to charge a car battery and the sulfur fumes that come out as being caustic. On my current M-17 #652, I have a single gell cell. I had Bob put a gel cell in because I had done some reasearch and am convinced that the gell cell is more of a maintenance free battery than the wet cell. Michael M-17 #652, Pepperjack

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