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Re: M_Boats: M23
by JDavies104＠aol.com 08 Apr '09

08 Apr '09

My M17 came with a cam cleat on the starboard side of the transom for raising the fixed rudder which I don't use since the boat also came with a kick-up rudder. After losing the bolt that held the ladder I simply use a short lanyard tied to the ladder, run through the eye-strap and made fast to the cam cleat. Works fine, and there's nothing to lose. Rick M-17 #633 Lynne L ************** New Deals on Dell Netbooks – Now starting at $299 (A HREF=http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1219939010x1201342897/aol?redi…)

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Re: M_Boats: New M15 owners
by John Ledger 08 Apr '09

08 Apr '09

Jarad. As it happens I just bought an M15. Its an '81 and in near perfect shape also. The only thing I need to do now is learn to sail. Our kids are out of college and have not moved in back home. We are rewarding ourselves. John in Oregon -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com <montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com> To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wed Apr 08 09:48:13 2009 Subject: M_Boats: New M15 owners Hi, I'm not sure if this is the correct way to post a new thread but I'm going for it anyway. My wife and I just purchased a 1984 M15 from a really nice family north of Sacramento. We made a long drive (w/ our 2yr old) up from Oceanside to pick it up last week. We found the boat to be in amazing condition. It was spent it's whole life in fresh water and didn't have a sign of any corrosion anywhere...quite amazing. Everything was in great working condition. Jerry built these boats well. Anyway I just wanted to introduce myself as I'm sure I'll have a lot of questions in the future. I've taken her out once and had a great time but have a few little projects I'd like to do to her in the near future. Jared _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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spinaker and pole
by Arnold Sharpe 08 Apr '09

08 Apr '09

Hello out in Monty Land.. I am getting set to advertise for sale the spinaker and pole from my M-17 "Little Breeze" as I never use it and want to buy and install a furling headsail. I am asking $350. for both. I am offering it here first but will list it on Craigslist next week. The sail and pole are both in good condition. I am located in Brownsville, Oregon......about 1-1/2 hours south of Portland. Regards..Arnold <afsharpe(a)mac.com>

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Re: M_Boats: M23
by treed＠communitycareinc.com 07 Apr '09

07 Apr '09

Joe..I did get a M17 last summer and I really like it a lot. I have had a bigger boat (43') in South Florida for the past 10 years and I would like to relpace it with something a little bigger than the M17. I keep the M17 on Ky Lake and it's just to far to trailer it back an forth as often as we go to Florida. I plan to keep the M17 and I must say I enjoyed it more than about any other boat I have owned in the past. Regards Tony E. Tony Reed -----Original Message----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray(a)embarqmail.com> Subj: Re: M_Boats: M23 Date: Wed Apr 1, 2009 1:49 pm Size: 925 bytes To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats"<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Tony! Didn't you just get a M17 last summer? Already ready to upsize?? Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: <treed(a)communitycareinc.com> To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:05 PM Subject: M_Boats: M23 > Bob....I noticed you are finishing up a couple M23's. I didn't see any > price and spec information on Montgomery Boats. What the price range and > delivery time when set up for cruising? > We you get one finished up I would like to come take a look at one. > > Best Regards, > Tony > E. Tony Reed > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! --- message truncated ---

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Re: M_Boats: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 74, Issue 6
by Rick Langer 07 Apr '09

07 Apr '09

Way to go, Doug. Congratulations! I guess there'll be no catching you now. I knew it would work. Rick M15 #337 Bluebird > Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 06:16:24 -0700 (PDT) > From: Doug Kelch <doug_kelch(a)yahoo.com> > To: Montgomery <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Subject: M_Boats: WAHOOO!! HOT DA@# and more > Message-ID: <692444.22120.qm(a)web58705.mail.re1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > First sea trials on the Gaff Cutter M15 were held Saturday in light and > variable winds 0 - 8 kts. > > SHE IS A KEEPER!!!!! > > She is light on the helm and fast.? I was humming along at up to 4.5 kts > in the 8 kt periods with little heel and a light weather helm while > pointing.? > > Much to my surprise she points extremely well and may even be able to > point higher and go faster than she did as a sloop. > > As expected the weather helm is a bit strong going downwind with that long > boom/mainsail off to the side.? I guess I will have to get a large sail to > pole out on the windward side if it proves to be excessive. > > She does have a slight lee helm in the very light air even with the mast > raked aft, but I can live with that. > > What a hoot having it all come together. > > No pictures as the trials were kept private due to the potential > embarrassment but I hope to get some on the next outing. > > There were a few things that need tweaking.? I had the forestay too close > to the staysail and the roller furling rolled around the forestay.? I > removed the forestay and I do not think I will put it back as the two jibs > both have wire luffs.? A malicious attack by jealous boaters could dismast > me with a knife attach on the halyards but I will take this risk. > > YAHOOOOOOOOOOO. > > Thanks > > Doug >

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Re: M_Boats: Florida Keys
by Steve R. 05 Apr '09

05 Apr '09

George: Several M boaters are sailing from Key West to the Dry Tortugas from April 27 - May 8. I do not know how flexible you are but it is always nice to launch with fellow M sailors. I will not be sailing but may be in the area and will try to stop by for dinner. I will forward an e-mail to you that was sent out to those interested in East Coast Cruises. steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY ************************************************** Hi George: I am in Miami and I have an M17. I would recommend that you launch at Sea Bird Marina. It is a good central spot and you can leave your car and trailer there. It is just south of Islamorada. Just do an internet search, the have a website. Make sure you sail to Bahia Honda, good anchorage, protected. In my opinion the middle-lower keys are the best sailing area. Looe reef is also worth a visit for fantastic snorkeling. Have fun, Maria On Mar 19, 2009, at 7:53 PM, George Johnson wrote: > Hello to all, > > After much work, my boat and me are finally ready take a real > cruise. I've > camped out on the boat several times on local lakes an along the > Texas coast > (Aransas and Corpus Bays) but am ready for something more > adventurous. My > plan is to tow the boat to the Florida Keys beginning the second > week of May > (not looking forward to the drive, but want to sail MY craft instead > of > rent an expensive bareboat!) for two weeks of sailing / cruising (.A > few > days driving, 10 days on the water)..... I haven't been to that > part of > Florida so would greatly appreciate hearing from those who have > sailed/cruised in those parts. I am debating where to plunk the > boat in the > water to start out, and destinations for a 10 day on-the-water > experience. What are the "don't miss this!" areas in the Keys? > and which > are overcrowded, not so nice. I plan on mostly anchoring out each > evening for quiet and scenery, hitting a marina every few days to > charge up > the battery, filling up water jugs and ice (essential for adult > tropical > beverages)...... > > Any suggestions would be welcome and greatly appreciated! > > > George Johnson > M17 #600 > "Sancha" > San Antonio, TX > ___________

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Re: M_Boats: Florida Keys (Maria Jorge)
by George Johnson 05 Apr '09

05 Apr '09

Maria, Thanks for the reply....That was just the info I was looking for! I'll post a trip report after I get back to add to the forum...... George M-17 #600

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Sail Needles
by Brian Gilbert 04 Apr '09

04 Apr '09

Hi Folks... I hope I'm not breaking any rules here... but is it OK to post stuff for sale? I bought a bunch of sailmakers needles... the good kind (the labels say "Royal forged cast steel, by John James & son, Reddich, England," or "The ARGOSY sail needles, made in England") with triangular shafts. In other words, not Chinese. I got these on eBay awhile back, and I'd like to "share the love," so to speak. I bought six different sizes... the largest are real whoppers, 4 1/2", then there are 3 1/2", 3 1/4", 2 3/4"(Argosy size 14), 2 1/2" (size 15?), and some 2 1/4" flatseam needles, size 17s. (I just bought the small needles, they'll be coming in a few days). If anyone would like to buy a set, let me know. I'm thinking maybe $8 set, plus a self addressed, stamped envelope? Or maybe you have something small to trade... I love boat swaps! Again, I apologize if this is considered spam, but I thought if anyone could use these, M-sailors could. Best BG Brian Gilbert Author, Fix It And Sail, The Complete Trailer Sailer

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Re: M_Boats: M23
by treed＠communitycareinc.com 04 Apr '09

04 Apr '09

Hi Joe, Thanks for your email. Mine did come along on the same load as yours. We are on Charlotte Harbour at Burnt Store Marina just south of Punta Gorda. The water is skinny that's for sure so a M23 sailng grounds would be limited in Charlotte Harbor. It is so shallow even the M17 would be a problem. We do a lot of Sea Pearl sailing which is almost the peferct shallow water boat. I was just looking to get my current big boat sold then get something smaller but still offer Flicka type or M23 type cruising comforts for extented trips. The M17 is actually fine and the bigger deal I guess is I am living in two places and it's just to far to trailer the boat back and forth as often as we travel back and forth. I guess I should be working on how to simplify my life a little instead looking for another boat. Sounds like you have some nice upgrades in the works for your M17. Please let me know what you decide on for a place to mount the VHF. My handheld is not doing the job either. Regards, Tony E. Tony Reed -----Original Message----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray(a)embarqmail.com> Subj: Re: M_Boats: M23 Date: Wed Apr 1, 2009 5:11 pm Size: 3K To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats"<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Tony, If you are still looking for an M23 check out http://www.sailingtexas.com/smontgomery23a.html I'm not sure if it finally sold. The newer M23's look a lot like the Falmouth Cutter which it is fashioned after. I was very tempted into pursuing the M23 and talked to Bob Eeg about it. I told him the "whats and wherefores" for my particular situation and he strongly suggested the M17 instead. Will you have a water depth issue in Florida? If not, perhaps you might want to look at some Falmouth Cutters or the Flickas. I had a NorSea 27 for 5 years but the sailing areas where I live here on the outer banks of NC are just not conducive to a 4' draft boat unless you stay rigidly within the channels. Not much fun when I look out my back door to the Bogue Sound that is 2 miles wide and 25 long and is about 2' deep in 90% of it. Glad you are enjoying your M17. I have mine out to do some spring stuff like bottom washing and touchup and a good varnish job on the little bit of teak (compared to the NorSea!!) Plus I'm putting in a 12V system with nav lights and some interior lights, fans etc. I'm also putting in a fixed VHF with a mast antenna. I haven't figured out the best place to locate the radio. I have a handheld but sometimes it doesn't have quite enough juice to stay in touch with others. I'll probably go out with a group wide solicitation of suggestions. Sailing it is quite a new experience compared to the NorSea. Ten feet shorter and ten thousand pounds lighter I guess would make a difference. I actually have to trim sails!! New learning curve. BTW was I correct that your boat and mine came cross country together with a total of three on the same trailer or was your's the one that came tranported solo?? My M17 is called Seafrog. Good luck in your search for the perfect Florida boat and have fun on the M17 Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: <treed(a)communitycareinc.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 3:16 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M23 > Joe..I did get a M17 last summer and I really like it a lot. I have had a > bigger boat (43') in South Florida for the past 10 years and I would like > to relpace it with something a little bigger than the M17. I keep the M17 > on Ky Lake and it's just to far to trailer it back an forth as often as we > go to Florida. I plan to keep the M17 and I must say I enjoyed it more > than about any other boat I have owned in the past. > Regards > Tony > > E. Tony Reed > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray(a)embarqmail.com> > Subj: Re: M_Boats: M23 > Date: Wed Apr 1, 2009 1:49 pm > Size: 925 bytes > To: "For and about Montgomery > Sailboats"<montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > > Tony! > Didn't you just get a M17 last summer? Already ready to upsize?? > Joe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <treed(a)communitycareinc.com> > To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:05 PM > Subject: M_Boats: M23 > > >> Bob....I noticed you are finishing up a couple M23's. I didn't see any >> price and spec information on Montgomery Boats. What the price range and >> delivery time when set up for cruising? >> We you get one finished up I would like to come take a look at one. >> >> Best Regards, >> Tony >> E. Tony Reed >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> >> Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! --- message truncated ---

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Re: M_Boats: Fixed Mounted VHF Radios.
by W David Scobie 04 Apr '09

04 Apr '09

early '07 there was a good amount of discussion about the masthead antenna and/vs. handheld and/vs. longer antennas for handhelds. search the msog archive to find the discussion (the montgomeryowners.com site makes this easy). dave scobie M15 #288 - SCRED visit Scred's www-site: http://www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred --- On Fri, 4/3/09, Joe Murphy <seagray(a)embarqmail.com> wrote: I had heard this before and talked to some "experts" who said that a mast top antenna might help with the receiption but trying to transmit with a 5 watt handheld wouldn't improve much if any. But I too would like to hear if anyone has tried it. Thanks for the input. Joe

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