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Transducer location/fishfinder/depthsounder
by Harry & Nancy 16 Dec '09

16 Dec '09

Randy,Bob,Skip, et al: Thanks so much for your comments; and thanks, Bob, for the photos. I really like your "thinking outside of the box"- a "quick and dirty" method,Skip. It sounds like an ideal way to initially test a fishfinder/depthsounder( or maybe act as a permanent solution?).Also, my gratitude to Keith for maintaining this invaluable site! Best of the season for all, Harry Elmslie, Thunder Bay, L. Superior

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Re: M_Boats: Transducer/fishfinder/depth sounder
by Harry & Nancy 15 Dec '09

15 Dec '09

Randy: Thanks very much for your prompt reply regarding placement of the transducer.Do you know if threading the cable could be done through the same hole that the line to the swing centre board occupies. If so, then I could mount the transducer farther forward on the outer side of the hull,to enable a more advance warning of rocks- a foreword-looking sonar beam. Also, I think I'll buy the Garmin unit.Thanks again, Randy, and also to others who helped. Not to be out done by our good Yankee friends,since Dec.1,the temp. has hovered between -4F and -10F. All the best! Harry Elmslie,Thunder Bay,Ont.

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Re: M_Boats: Reefing arrangements
by bownez＠juno.com 14 Dec '09

14 Dec '09

Hello Listers, Rick wrote: I can't imagine reefing any other way than hove to, but that's probably because I've never done it any other way. Hove to the boat is quiet and on a fairly even keel, essentially "parked". I've found that my 17 balances quite well with the boom just over the quarter and the helm hard alee, so I can get at the leach reefing line without leaning out of the boat. I agree. I reef the M17 and the M23 while hove-to. Both park rather well with a slight forward motion of a knot or less. Having a rigid Forespar vang on the M23 really is a plus, thus no topping lift to adjust. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Stock Options Click to learn about options trading and get the latest information. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=ROSk54jozQrBJfoLrXvYewAAJ1ApM…

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Super deal on Raymarine stuff
by Harry & Nancy 13 Dec '09

13 Dec '09

Hi folks: Re M15 and installing a fish-finder. I've tried to find some info. on our site and the most reassuring( to me, that means no hole in hull) is from Randy Graves posted Dec.27/08. Of particular interest is location of the sensor.Randy, if you or anyone else has tried placement aft of the centreboard,I'd much appreciate learning of your success. As I discovered this past summer on L. Superior, rocks and "Li'l Nan" don't mix!

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Re: M_Boats: Reefing arrangements
by Larry E Yake 13 Dec '09

13 Dec '09

>>So, 'with the boom just over the quarter and the helm hard alee', how much of your jib is backwinded?? Right now I only have one jib and it is a 130 on a CDI furler. Should I furl some of it? If you're heaving-to in order to reduce sail, of course you would have already furled some of your genoa. But if you're just wanting to park for a while, your 130 will be fine. My boat heaves-to best with the full main and 150 genoa. You just have to adjust the amount of tension on the sheets to where the sails balance each other best. I find I have very little tension on the main sheet. Larry M17, CornDog

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Re: M_Boats: Reefing arrangements
by gilasailr＠aol.com 13 Dec '09

13 Dec '09

Reef when 'hove to' preferred. GO In a message dated 12/12/2009 2:15:57 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, htmills(a)zoominternet.net writes: Amen, Doug. Works like a charm. Tod Mills M17 #408, 1987 galley model BuscaBrisas > -----Original Message----- > From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of > Doug Kelch > Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 3:51 PM > To: Montgomery > Subject: M_Boats: Reefing arrangements > > Rick had mentioned that he reefs while hove to. > > I do the same and find it very efficient. To do this though the boom > is outboard of the cockpit and I but a turning block just aft of the > reefing clew in order to lead the reefing line foward along the boom so > that I am not leaning outboard of the boat while reefing. > > So my reefing clew arrangement is a line from a pad eye on the port > side through the reefing clew, to turning block on starboard and then > forward to a small horn cleat about 3 feet aft of the mast. > > When the boat is hove to the boat is far more stable than trying to > head into the wind and everything works smoother so that I am > comfortable with just a reefing hook at the gooseneck. > > Thanks > > Doug Kelch > "Seas the Day" > M15 #310 G > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.427 / Virus Database: 270.14.100/2554 - Release Date: > 12/12/09 07:38:00 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: cleat on M17 mast
by gilasailr＠aol.com 13 Dec '09

13 Dec '09

Tom, It is just a b*stardized M-17 - I think I remember Jerry saying it was very 'personalized'. A couple things are improper retro-fits - C-25 tiller that has been broken /repaired and now sits somewhat down in the cockpit the way it should, motor mount etc. Not all of it is an improvement - some of it is there for giggles and shifts! GO See ya in Havasu - In a message dated 12/12/2009 11:32:54 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, tjenk(a)gte.net writes: GO, One more reason to do Havasu in Feb; We can wait for you to rig up and check it all out. With 52 signed up, this will be the ultimate boat show. TJ On Dec 11, 2009, at 9:58 PM, GILASAILR(a)aol.com wrote: > Joe, > That is the tip of my spreader that was built as a fixed spreader > (non-swinging) when Ballenger Spars built a new mast for my boat. > It is a nice > clean solution that allows for capturing the wire and allowing for > movement - > nicely executed too IMO. > The original spar was in sad shape and pretty well beat up- I also > wanted > to convert to tall rig so that was the time to make a number of > changes. > T-ball terminals at the upper ends of the shrouds, thru-bar for > spreaders, > swept tapered airfoil spreaders (to counter the need for a baby > stay common on > tall rigs), welded masthead /truck, internal halyards, fixed > gooseneck, > mast gate, etc. All of these features are things I have come to > see as 'good' > based on experience and features on previously owned boats - S2 ,J > Boat, > Ranger Sailboats, Beneteau. > > I am impressed with Buzz Ballenger & CO.'s work, pricing, schedule and > they even found a "ride" for the mast from Watsonville CA to > Phoenix for a song > and a dance! My welder buddy says - Good+++ welding (ask Sean > Mulligan - > the welder knows his welding and fabrication!) > > Not all of these may not be great ideas - but they are 'my mix' and I > guess that is what it is about. > Or as a buddy on another list says "It's my opinion and it is damn > well > RIGHT!" For whomever it was that really cared - The boat is back > to single > lower shroud configuration - with the added bonus of four > additional 1/2 " > holes in my deck! > > To answer your second question it is a stock tip from Ballenger I > believe. > An afterburner. > > 60 days +- til the Lake Havasu Ran Tan / Poker Run / Raid / and > Daughters > of the Tarp$ Revolution Sailing Demonstration! (Remember, this is > NOT a > competition - it's an exhibition - no wagering! And for safety's > sake - always > wear these........) > > GO. > LB/GF! M-17 # 316a 'that ain't bad gelcoat -it's "patina"! > Team Geezer Racing.....Old and in the Way > > > > > In a message dated 12/11/2009 6:43:33 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > seagray(a)embarqmail.com writes: > > GO, > Is that a picture of your yard? Interesting tip with the strap to > trap > the > shroud. Was that a standard yard when you got your Monty or is > that an > afterburner?? > Joe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <GILASAILR(a)aol.com> > To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:26 PM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: cleat on M17 mast > > >> Tom, >> >> Try a deck organizer at the forward corner of the house >> (perpendicular > to >> the mast step I have a pair of Harken 6052 ESP deck organizers >> on my > boat >> (see photo) - it is a tight fit but they go in the space available. >> >> I will stack a sheave on the starboard side so the main halyard, >> reef and >> cunningham can all go to the triple stopper. >> >> Waiting for my economic stimulus to buy a new Harken 6AL or >> similar.for >> the >> main halyard (reefing umph). >> >> The port side has one double organizer - the jib halyard winch >> and the >> two >> jib/genoa halyards in a double stopper - both sets of lines come >> right >> down the companionway hatch slides and have "plenty of room". >> >> If one was to use camcleats, I think you would have to stagger >> them due >> to >> overlap - stoppers are narrower - (search fleabay for 'em to get >> affordable ones-make sure you get the right line size) >> >> _Click here: http://www.msogphotosite.com/MSOG/blbgf/blbgf3.jpg_ >> (http://www.msogphotosite.com/MSOG/blbgf/blbgf3.jpg) my boat >> showing >> organizer - >> >> _http://www.mauriprosailing.com/Merchant2/mer >> chant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=HAR6052&Category_Code=ESPORG_ >> > (http://www.mauriprosailing.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc? > Screen=PROD&Product_Code=HAR6052&Category_Code=ESPORG) >> organizers. >> >> >> GO. >> LB/GF! M-17 # 316a 'that ain't bad gelcoat -it's "patina"! >> Team Geezer Racing.....Old and in the Way >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 12/10/2009 3:50:04 P.M. US Mountain Standard >> Time, >> tjenk(a)gte.net writes: >> >> Bill, >> >> I'm not sure what a gooseneck horn is, but I presently have a large >> stainless reefing hook on the starboard end of the clevis pin >> through >> the tack cringle. I rigged a short tag of line through each reef >> cringle, with a monkey's fist on one end to hold it in the cringle, >> and a loop on he other end to throw over the hook. This works >> fine, >> and is easier than working cringles over the hook, but it is slower >> to shake out a reef than I would like. I am planning on putting a >> small cheek block with becket on either side of the boom just >> behind >> the gooseneck fitting, with jam cleats a foot or so aft. The two >> reefing lines will run from the opposite becket, through the reef >> cringle, down to the block, and back to the jam cleat. The aft >> reefing lines will be similar, but the lines will be anchored on >> eyestraps opposite. Lucky me, I will get to try the system out at >> Havasu in February, but I still don't think the halyard setup on >> the >> mast is optimal. It would be nice to run the main halyard through a >> spring-loaded turning block at the mast base, and back to a winch on >> the cabin top, but it is harder to rig at the ramp, and the >> cabin-top >> geometry runs a line over the hatch, if I recall correctly. >> Let's face it: fiddling with rigging is half the fun on days >> when the >> boat sits on a trailer. >> >> Tom >> >> M17 hull 626 (must have been in the mold when yours went out the > door). >> >> >> >> >> On Dec 10, 2009, at 2:22 PM, Bill Wickett wrote: >> >>> Rick, >>> >>> Where have you mounted the gooseneck horn. Our boat does not >>> have any >>> reefing lines rigged and that is #2 on the list for spring. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Bill Wickett >>> M17 #622 >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Rick Davies >>> <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Tom, >>>> >>>> Why do you have to cleat it with one hand? After hooking the >>>> luff >>>> cringle over the gooseneck horn, (or cleating off the jiffy >>>> reefing >>>> line, if you happen to have one), there should be two hands >>>> available >>>> to tension and cleat the halyard. >>>> >>>> Rick >>>> M-17 #633 >>>> Lynne L >>>> >>>> On 12/10/09, Tom Jenkins <tjenk(a)gte.net> wrote: >>>>> I wonder if anyone out there has replaced the main halyard >>>>> cleat >>>>> with >>>>> a large jam cleat (or even a cam cleat) to facilitate the >>>>> reefing >>>>> process. I find it cumbersome to reach out from the cockpit >>>>> with >>>>> one >>>>> hand and cleat the halyard off while trying to keep it taut. >>>>> Am I >>>>> missing something that might make a regular cleat the only >>>>> choice? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Tom Jenkins >>>>> M17 Scintilla >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ >>>>> montgomery_boats >>>>> >>>>> Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ >>>> montgomery_boats >>>> >>>> Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ >>> montgomery_boats >>> >>> Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ >> montgomery_boats >> >> Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ >> montgomery_boats >> >> Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: cleat on M17 mast
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 12 Dec '09

12 Dec '09

Joe, That is the tip of my spreader that was built as a fixed spreader (non-swinging) when Ballenger Spars built a new mast for my boat. It is a nice clean solution that allows for capturing the wire and allowing for movement - nicely executed too IMO. The original spar was in sad shape and pretty well beat up- I also wanted to convert to tall rig so that was the time to make a number of changes. T-ball terminals at the upper ends of the shrouds, thru-bar for spreaders, swept tapered airfoil spreaders (to counter the need for a baby stay common on tall rigs), welded masthead /truck, internal halyards, fixed gooseneck, mast gate, etc. All of these features are things I have come to see as 'good' based on experience and features on previously owned boats - S2 ,J Boat, Ranger Sailboats, Beneteau. I am impressed with Buzz Ballenger & CO.'s work, pricing, schedule and they even found a "ride" for the mast from Watsonville CA to Phoenix for a song and a dance! My welder buddy says - Good+++ welding (ask Sean Mulligan - the welder knows his welding and fabrication!) Not all of these may not be great ideas - but they are 'my mix' and I guess that is what it is about. Or as a buddy on another list says "It's my opinion and it is damn well RIGHT!" For whomever it was that really cared - The boat is back to single lower shroud configuration - with the added bonus of four additional 1/2 " holes in my deck! To answer your second question it is a stock tip from Ballenger I believe. An afterburner. 60 days +- til the Lake Havasu Ran Tan / Poker Run / Raid / and Daughters of the Tarp$ Revolution Sailing Demonstration! (Remember, this is NOT a competition - it's an exhibition - no wagering! And for safety's sake - always wear these........) GO. LB/GF! M-17 # 316a 'that ain't bad gelcoat -it's "patina"! Team Geezer Racing.....Old and in the Way In a message dated 12/11/2009 6:43:33 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, seagray(a)embarqmail.com writes: GO, Is that a picture of your yard? Interesting tip with the strap to trap the shroud. Was that a standard yard when you got your Monty or is that an afterburner?? Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: <GILASAILR(a)aol.com> To: <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:26 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: cleat on M17 mast > Tom, > > Try a deck organizer at the forward corner of the house (perpendicular to > the mast step I have a pair of Harken 6052 ESP deck organizers on my boat > (see photo) - it is a tight fit but they go in the space available. > > I will stack a sheave on the starboard side so the main halyard, reef and > cunningham can all go to the triple stopper. > > Waiting for my economic stimulus to buy a new Harken 6AL or similar.for > the > main halyard (reefing umph). > > The port side has one double organizer - the jib halyard winch and the > two > jib/genoa halyards in a double stopper - both sets of lines come right > down the companionway hatch slides and have "plenty of room". > > If one was to use camcleats, I think you would have to stagger them due > to > overlap - stoppers are narrower - (search fleabay for 'em to get > affordable ones-make sure you get the right line size) > > _Click here: http://www.msogphotosite.com/MSOG/blbgf/blbgf3.jpg_ > (http://www.msogphotosite.com/MSOG/blbgf/blbgf3.jpg) my boat showing > organizer - > > _http://www.mauriprosailing.com/Merchant2/mer > chant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=HAR6052&Category_Code=ESPORG_ > (http://www.mauriprosailing.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_C…) > organizers. > > > GO. > LB/GF! M-17 # 316a 'that ain't bad gelcoat -it's "patina"! > Team Geezer Racing.....Old and in the Way > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 12/10/2009 3:50:04 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, > tjenk(a)gte.net writes: > > Bill, > > I'm not sure what a gooseneck horn is, but I presently have a large > stainless reefing hook on the starboard end of the clevis pin through > the tack cringle. I rigged a short tag of line through each reef > cringle, with a monkey's fist on one end to hold it in the cringle, > and a loop on he other end to throw over the hook. This works fine, > and is easier than working cringles over the hook, but it is slower > to shake out a reef than I would like. I am planning on putting a > small cheek block with becket on either side of the boom just behind > the gooseneck fitting, with jam cleats a foot or so aft. The two > reefing lines will run from the opposite becket, through the reef > cringle, down to the block, and back to the jam cleat. The aft > reefing lines will be similar, but the lines will be anchored on > eyestraps opposite. Lucky me, I will get to try the system out at > Havasu in February, but I still don't think the halyard setup on the > mast is optimal. It would be nice to run the main halyard through a > spring-loaded turning block at the mast base, and back to a winch on > the cabin top, but it is harder to rig at the ramp, and the cabin-top > geometry runs a line over the hatch, if I recall correctly. > Let's face it: fiddling with rigging is half the fun on days when the > boat sits on a trailer. > > Tom > > M17 hull 626 (must have been in the mold when yours went out the door). > > > > > On Dec 10, 2009, at 2:22 PM, Bill Wickett wrote: > >> Rick, >> >> Where have you mounted the gooseneck horn. Our boat does not have any >> reefing lines rigged and that is #2 on the list for spring. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Bill Wickett >> M17 #622 >> >> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Rick Davies <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Tom, >>> >>> Why do you have to cleat it with one hand? After hooking the luff >>> cringle over the gooseneck horn, (or cleating off the jiffy reefing >>> line, if you happen to have one), there should be two hands available >>> to tension and cleat the halyard. >>> >>> Rick >>> M-17 #633 >>> Lynne L >>> >>> On 12/10/09, Tom Jenkins <tjenk(a)gte.net> wrote: >>>> I wonder if anyone out there has replaced the main halyard cleat >>>> with >>>> a large jam cleat (or even a cam cleat) to facilitate the reefing >>>> process. I find it cumbersome to reach out from the cockpit with >>>> one >>>> hand and cleat the halyard off while trying to keep it taut. Am I >>>> missing something that might make a regular cleat the only choice? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Tom Jenkins >>>> M17 Scintilla >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ >>>> montgomery_boats >>>> >>>> Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >>> >>> Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> >> Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Weather
by bownez＠juno.com 12 Dec '09

12 Dec '09

Hi Randy, You don't have snow yet? How did that big storm miss you? I got 7.4 inches, the great lakes eastern cities got plenty. I figured you and Mr. Yakes would have your snow shovels out. Happy Holidays! Bones in Mpls ____________________________________________________________ Stock Options Click to learn about options trading and get the latest information. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=iGd0g57kVT5rATwGYiGOagAAJ1ApM…

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Re: M_Boats: cleat on M17 mast
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 12 Dec '09

12 Dec '09

Tom, Try a deck organizer at the forward corner of the house (perpendicular to the mast step I have a pair of Harken 6052 ESP deck organizers on my boat (see photo) - it is a tight fit but they go in the space available. I will stack a sheave on the starboard side so the main halyard, reef and cunningham can all go to the triple stopper. Waiting for my economic stimulus to buy a new Harken 6AL or similar.for the main halyard (reefing umph). The port side has one double organizer - the jib halyard winch and the two jib/genoa halyards in a double stopper - both sets of lines come right down the companionway hatch slides and have "plenty of room". If one was to use camcleats, I think you would have to stagger them due to overlap - stoppers are narrower - (search fleabay for 'em to get affordable ones-make sure you get the right line size) _Click here: http://www.msogphotosite.com/MSOG/blbgf/blbgf3.jpg_ (http://www.msogphotosite.com/MSOG/blbgf/blbgf3.jpg) my boat showing organizer - _http://www.mauriprosailing.com/Merchant2/mer chant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=HAR6052&Category_Code=ESPORG_ (http://www.mauriprosailing.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_C…) organizers. GO. LB/GF! M-17 # 316a 'that ain't bad gelcoat -it's "patina"! Team Geezer Racing.....Old and in the Way In a message dated 12/10/2009 3:50:04 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, tjenk(a)gte.net writes: Bill, I'm not sure what a gooseneck horn is, but I presently have a large stainless reefing hook on the starboard end of the clevis pin through the tack cringle. I rigged a short tag of line through each reef cringle, with a monkey's fist on one end to hold it in the cringle, and a loop on he other end to throw over the hook. This works fine, and is easier than working cringles over the hook, but it is slower to shake out a reef than I would like. I am planning on putting a small cheek block with becket on either side of the boom just behind the gooseneck fitting, with jam cleats a foot or so aft. The two reefing lines will run from the opposite becket, through the reef cringle, down to the block, and back to the jam cleat. The aft reefing lines will be similar, but the lines will be anchored on eyestraps opposite. Lucky me, I will get to try the system out at Havasu in February, but I still don't think the halyard setup on the mast is optimal. It would be nice to run the main halyard through a spring-loaded turning block at the mast base, and back to a winch on the cabin top, but it is harder to rig at the ramp, and the cabin-top geometry runs a line over the hatch, if I recall correctly. Let's face it: fiddling with rigging is half the fun on days when the boat sits on a trailer. Tom M17 hull 626 (must have been in the mold when yours went out the door). On Dec 10, 2009, at 2:22 PM, Bill Wickett wrote: > Rick, > > Where have you mounted the gooseneck horn. Our boat does not have any > reefing lines rigged and that is #2 on the list for spring. > > Thanks, > > Bill Wickett > M17 #622 > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Rick Davies <jdavies104(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Tom, >> >> Why do you have to cleat it with one hand? After hooking the luff >> cringle over the gooseneck horn, (or cleating off the jiffy reefing >> line, if you happen to have one), there should be two hands available >> to tension and cleat the halyard. >> >> Rick >> M-17 #633 >> Lynne L >> >> On 12/10/09, Tom Jenkins <tjenk(a)gte.net> wrote: >>> I wonder if anyone out there has replaced the main halyard cleat >>> with >>> a large jam cleat (or even a cam cleat) to facilitate the reefing >>> process. I find it cumbersome to reach out from the cockpit with >>> one >>> hand and cleat the halyard off while trying to keep it taut. Am I >>> missing something that might make a regular cleat the only choice? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Tom Jenkins >>> M17 Scintilla >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ >>> montgomery_boats >>> >>> Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats >> >> Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! >> > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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