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Re: M_Boats: Bunks replacement
by Hughston, Larry 05 Oct '09

05 Oct '09

Andrei, just my 2 cents, but why not start in the center of a bunk with a counter sunk bolt(stainless)? Then slightly oblong the next holes, left and right. Bolt those holes. Then move on to the fourth (right end) and the fifth bolt (left end) again, making your drilled holes oblong. Bolting the holes one at a time, drilling and bolting, should allow the proper curve. At least that is the way I would start out. Remember to allow for a little bending in plan view also. I used composite "wood" on my little trailer. Two layers glued together then cut to fit with a little left over. No rot, no bugs but a little more flexible than real wood. I also used lots stainless screws and finish washers to hold down the carpeting, no glue. Another advantage with composite wood is that it can be gently bent with a little propane heat carefully applied. Use a piece to experiment, composite can be very unforgiving if bent too far. Do it right, Do it once. Good luck. ---LH. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Andrei Caldararu Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 7:18 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: Bunks replacement Dear all, the bunks for the trailer for my Monty 17 need to be replaced (they are aged and cracked). I have two questions for the knowledgeable people on this list: a) the existing bunks are curved, but the 2x6's I bought at my local lumberyard are (obviously) straight. The curved ones should be slightly longer than that the straight-line distance between the mounting holes on the trailer. Where should I drill the screw holes in the wood? Should I do it as if I were mounting the bunks straight, and then let the weight of the boat sag them to the correct shape (easier to mount, but I don't know if the wood is elastic enough to stretch to the required length). Or should I drill the holes as if the bunks were already curved (slightly farther apart), but then I am not sure how I will mount them without some weight to curve them down (the holes in the bunks will not align with the holes on the trailer). Any suggestions? The complicating factor is that my current bunks are in such bad shape that once I take them out, with the boat in the water, there is no way I can put them back in, so I must have a well-thought- out plan since I can not leave the boat in the water at the dock. b) I read on the internet confusing opinions on whether I should attach the carpeting with only staples, or with glue and staples. Glue and staples is more work, and requires the whole thing to wait 48 hours. Would the carpeting start to bunch up if I didn't put in glue? Thanks for any help, Andrei. P.S. I have posted photos from my Apostle Islands trip this July (solo in the M-17, 4 days), at http://www.math.wisc.edu/~andreic/gogu/Photo%20Album/2009/Apostle%20Isla nds%20-%20August/index.html A. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: bent mast support
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 05 Oct '09

05 Oct '09

Thanx much Steve. It always helps to learn from others. I make fewer mistakes that way. sal M15 '86 #361 Justus In a message dated 10/3/2009 7:31:49 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, sspearse(a)whidbey.com writes: Hello, Sal. I push my 15' 1981 Monty around just fine with a 2-horse 4-stroke Honda. Most Monty owners go with the long shaft, but I got a great deal on my shorty. I removed the original fixed (fiberglass band + wood) transom that had weakened over the years. Also, it did not come out far enough from the transom to allow the motor to be tilted. I bought a Garelich fixed-mount designed for motors up to 15 horse. (Well, not on MY transom!) I reversed the mounting plate so that it held the motor low enough to allow for cavitation prevention. (My prop is nearly level with the middle of the keel.) Hope this helps. —Steve on Whidbey On Oct 3, 2009, at 5:16 PM, SALGLESSER(a)aol.com wrote: > > Hi all, > > We had a little snow storm last week (10") so I threw a tarp over > our M15 > to keep the snow off. Unfortunately the wind was stronger than > expected. > The wind grabbed the tarp and the mast and bent the support 90 > degrees. I > believe I can straighten it, but i don't think I can get the kink > out. Is > there a source or supplier to get a new one? Our boat is an '86, > will a > new one fit? Any help would be appreciated. > > We have an inboard electric motor on our boat, but it was suggested > that we > also carry an outboard for longer windless runs that sometimes > occur in > these "gatherings" like the Havasu event. So I'm going to mount a > rack > (folding) for a motor. Is there an optimum depth for the prop? > How much power > will I need to push the M15 "properly"? Any suggestions are > appreciated. > > sal > > M15 '86 #361 Justus > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! Steve Pearse sspearse(a)whidbey.com _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: bent mast support
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 05 Oct '09

05 Oct '09

Thanx Dave. You just saved us a bunch of money. We have a fairly new 2 HP 4 stroke long shaft motor. We were thinking to purchase a larger motor. I think I'll try to straighten the bend first on the mast support. Thanx for the help. sal M15 '86 #361 "Justus" In a message dated 10/3/2009 11:46:28 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, wdscobie(a)yahoo.com writes: sal: copy the dimensions, cut some wood (plywood will be functional), get some gudgons and build your own. take what remains of the crutch you have to a metal shop and have another made. or, call bob and order one. the honda 2 4-cycle long shaft is the perfect motor for the m15. the only limitation with the motor is there is no external tank option. dave scobie M17 #375 - SWEET PEA visit SWEET PEA's www-site - http://www.m17-375.webs.com >On Oct 3, 2009, at 5:16 PM, SALGLESSER(a)aol.com wrote: > > > Hi all, > > We had a little snow storm last week (10") so I threw a tarp over our M15 > to keep the snow off. Unfortunately the wind was stronger than expected. > The wind grabbed the tarp and the mast and bent the support 90 degrees. I > believe I can straighten it, but i don't think I can get the kink out. Is > there a source or supplier to get a new one? Our boat is an '86, will a > new one fit? Any help would be appreciated. > > We have an inboard electric motor on our boat, but it was suggested that we > also carry an outboard for longer windless runs that sometimes occur in > these "gatherings" like the Havasu event. So I'm going to mount a rack > (folding) for a motor. Is there an optimum depth for the prop? How much power > will I need to push the M15 "properly"? Any suggestions are appreciated. > > sal > > M15 '86 #361 Justus _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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bent mast support
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 04 Oct '09

04 Oct '09

Hi all, We had a little snow storm last week (10") so I threw a tarp over our M15 to keep the snow off. Unfortunately the wind was stronger than expected. The wind grabbed the tarp and the mast and bent the support 90 degrees. I believe I can straighten it, but i don't think I can get the kink out. Is there a source or supplier to get a new one? Our boat is an '86, will a new one fit? Any help would be appreciated. We have an inboard electric motor on our boat, but it was suggested that we also carry an outboard for longer windless runs that sometimes occur in these "gatherings" like the Havasu event. So I'm going to mount a rack (folding) for a motor. Is there an optimum depth for the prop? How much power will I need to push the M15 "properly"? Any suggestions are appreciated. sal M15 '86 #361 Justus

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Re: M_Boats: Montys Apostle Islands Cruise was fun!
by bownez＠juno.com 03 Oct '09

03 Oct '09

Gordon, My M23 "Dhana" and myself would be pleased to have you as crew. All it takes is planning. Time waits for no one. Hope to cross paths in the near future. Bones ____________________________________________________________ Top Bathroom Remodelers Get up to 4 free bathroom remodel estimates today. No obligation! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=OxzQcjqpT4xL2yH_T3gX5QAAJ1ApM…

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Mast Base
by James Poulakis 01 Oct '09

01 Oct '09

For those following the issue of raising / lowering the mast with the shrouds tensioned on late model M17s; I've discovered that there are bolt-heads that stand proud off the mast-step plate that keep the mast from being raised. Once the "cross-plate" in the mast section hits them everything comes to a screeching halt. My plan is to cut the cross-plate to clear the bolt heads, then round off the aft edge of the mast base a little. Gary H. and Joe M have also cut away a bit of their mast base with no ill effects so I shall forge ahead. Jim M17 "Spirit" (2008 model)

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Re: M_Boats: Montys Apostle Islands Cruise was fun!
by eisenee＠aol.com 01 Oct '09

01 Oct '09

I really enjoyed the great pics and log on Compact site. Hopefully next year we can trailer Motu iti up from Ft. Worth and join you. Do any of you have a wife or girl friend, no way Dorothy would let me that beautiful lake without her. Eldor M17 Motu iti

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