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Re: M_Boats: m-15 floatation
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 22 Oct '09

22 Oct '09

"two part closed cell foam " If you are talking about 2 part pour foam...the type where you mix part "a" with part "b" and it instantly starts growing and forming foam....be careful. If you mix this stuff in a closed container where it cannot expand as it needs to...or if it forms solid foam and blocks off its own exit while it is still expanding .....it can do some scary things! Just know that it IS going to expand....even if it needs to push you hull liner or cockpit walls out of the way to do it...IT IS going to expand! Make sure to carefully calculate how much you mix so you don't turn your Monty 15 into a Monty 19! Please do not ask that I relate how I became familiar with the expansion properties of 2 part pour foam!! :-) let's just say that I have had "confirmation" of some part of the above statement! Sean M23 "Dauntless" _www.havasumontgomerys.piczo.com_ (http://www.havasumontgomerys.piczo.com)

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Re: M_Boats: m-15 floatation
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 22 Oct '09

22 Oct '09

good point that Larry makes. I live where the relative humidity is almost always in the single digits. We brought Dauntless here from her old home in Bokeelia, Florida. And there was "all sorts of undesirable things" growing in a lot of weird places! If you had that open cell type foam in that situation.....yuck....that could get real nasty! I don't know how Larry thought of that. Being that he lives up in Washington where it never rains! :-) Sean M23 "Dauntless" _www.havasumontgomerys.piczo.com_ (http://www.havasumontgomerys.piczo.com)

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Re: M_Boats: m-15 floatation
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 22 Oct '09

22 Oct '09

1 Gallon plastic jugs with screw on caps make a good recycled material for floatation. Clean water jugs or juice - whatever blows yer hair back. Wash, dry and install the caps tightly and install in the boat- they are flexible and may be pressed into service as water jugs etc. FYI- if you want the boat to float upright when swamped, remember to install the 'floatation' as high in the boat as possible - up under the cockpit coamings as an example - hmmmmmmm get my staple gun and a couple rolls of bubble wrap and put in a new headliner !! Yeah that's the ticket. GO M-17 # 316a "LB/GF" In a message dated 10/21/2009 4:35:38 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, picfo(a)comcast.net writes: If an M-15 weighs 750 pounds then (according to Archimedes) it must displace 750 pounds of water to float. Since a cubic foot of of fresh water weighs 62.42796 pounds, 12 cubic feet of floatation would be needed. Since some of the boat is made from materials that will float when immersed (wood trim, balsa cored deck) then theoretically we could get away with less. BUT, depending upon how your boat is equipped (anchors, chain, outboard etc.) cutting this number down too much is risky. Besides, the deck doesn't float until its in the water. On the other hand, If Jerry says 10 cu ft is enough I'd believe it. Jim On Oct 21, 2009, at 9:45 AM, mrh219(a)yahoo.com wrote: > While putting my m-15 away for the winter, I finally opened up the > bow compartment and found that there was no flotation foam under > the cover. I had already noticed that there was no foam at the > stern. I am planning to put in two part closed cell foam in the > spring, and wonder if anyone has an opinion as to how much foam I > will need, or how much weight I need to calculate to determine how > much foam. Research seems to show that you don't need pound for > pound for fiberglass, but you do for metal such as ballast, motors > and spars. So how many cubic feet of foam floats an m-15? > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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m-15 floatation
by mrh219＠yahoo.com 21 Oct '09

21 Oct '09

While putting my m-15 away for the winter, I finally opened up the bow compartment and found that there was no flotation foam under the cover. I had already noticed that there was no foam at the stern. I am planning to put in two part closed cell foam in the spring, and wonder if anyone has an opinion as to how much foam I will need, or how much weight I need to calculate to determine how much foam. Research seems to show that you don't need pound for pound for fiberglass, but you do for metal such as ballast, motors and spars. So how many cubic feet of foam floats an m-15?

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Re: M_Boats: m-15 floatation
by bownez＠juno.com 21 Oct '09

21 Oct '09

My M-17 has no foam flotation installed but I wonder if the stock empty water tank under the cockpit sole offers a little "lift". I suppose an owner could fill it with the spray expanding foam. Bones M-boats in storage Mpls, Mn ____________________________________________________________ House Rescue Bill Passed $133,000 mortgage under $679/mo. Compare rates and save! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=PgbVQsvsXj7VdoiZXEzjVgAAJ1ApM…

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Photos: Eggemoggin Reach Regatta
by htmills＠zoominternet.net 19 Oct '09

19 Oct '09

Great slideshow of Maine classics: http://www.langleyphoto.com/view/slideshow/21 Tod Mills M17 #408, 1987 galley model BuscaBrisas

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Re: M_Boats: Photos: Eggemoggin Reach Regatta
by SALGLESSER＠aol.com 17 Oct '09

17 Oct '09

Beautiful. Thanx for sharing. an interlude of dreams right there in the middle of the day. sal In a message dated 10/14/2009 9:14:00 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, htmills(a)zoominternet.net writes: Great slideshow of Maine classics: http://www.langleyphoto.com/view/slideshow/21 Tod Mills M17 #408, 1987 galley model BuscaBrisas _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: Photos: Eggemoggin Reach Regatta
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 17 Oct '09

17 Oct '09

I can't resist - "That's what she said." GROOOOOANNNNNNNNNNN GO In a message dated 10/16/2009 3:38:27 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, seaweeble(a)hotmail.com writes: I'm afraid I've been at this too long... I saw the picture of the shapely young lady by the mast and found myself thinking what a magnificent stick of wood that must be. Ian M-17 The mighty "Seaweeble" > From: htmills(a)zoominternet.net > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:59:27 -0400 > Subject: M_Boats: Photos: Eggemoggin Reach Regatta > > Great slideshow of Maine classics: > > > > http://www.langleyphoto.com/view/slideshow/21 > > > > > > Tod Mills > > M17 #408, 1987 galley model > > BuscaBrisas > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!

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Re: M_Boats: Photos: Eggemoggin Reach Regatta
by Larry E Yake 15 Oct '09

15 Oct '09

Beautiful!! Thanks for posting the link, Tod. On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 22:59:27 -0400 <htmills(a)zoominternet.net> writes: > Great slideshow of Maine classics: > > > > http://www.langleyphoto.com/view/slideshow/21 > > > > > > Tod Mills > > M17 #408, 1987 galley model > > BuscaBrisas > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet! > >

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Re: M_Boats: M17 owner profiled online
by bownez＠juno.com 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Dan, Great slide show. I see you still have the original "curtains" for the M17 ports, I still have mine too! Very Classic. Bones in Mpls ____________________________________________________________ Culinary Arts Program The Art Institutes. Get info on our culinary arts programs. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=r4E-lGU5VPpAEdnJO9SLwwAAJ1ApM…

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