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Re: M_Boats: Salvage
by TOMMYVAL＠aol.com 15 Jun '08

15 Jun '08

maybe you could post some signs at the local marinas similar to the lost dog signs we always see, if someone can describe it and /or properly identify it then you can return it. If after a while no one claims it I guess you can be yours. Just an opinion I don't know anything bout salvage laws. Good Luck Gary **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

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going price on M17 these days
by Bruce Ward 15 Jun '08

15 Jun '08

Time for me to pipe in on the value of Monty's. Last I looked, I have the oldest 17 in our registry at hull number 32 and recently purchased it in Washington - drove in excess of a thousand miles as well. I agree with Tim on this - a well found Monty gets bought at the price you are willing to pay. I paid my own premium but have no regrets since it was in good condition with newer sails, new standing and running rigging, new CF 500 snap furling, radio, auto this and that.... Bought a new trailer because the original was not up to muster. It has brakes which negate some of the issues around tow vehicle capacity from the earlier threads. Like all vintage boats, they need some attention and have their strengths and weaknesses. In my northern BC mountains there are numerous types of toys - quads, snowmobiles, power boats and a few sailboats too. At middle age, I figure that you should envision the life you want and get at it. For us, the Montgomery 17 is an excellent choice to be on the water. I don't have a web site developed but can send pics and experiences for others to ponder. The information contained in our group websites and a knowledge gained about what Lyle Hess designed dating back some 25 years also convinced me to get one. IMHO the M boats have the nicest looks and sailing properties in the trailerable field. I had a Potter 19 back in '94, a Halman 20 double end keelboat, and sailed a Bayfield 25 until coming back to trailer sailing - Bruce.

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Hoist Launching an M-15
by Rick Langer 15 Jun '08

15 Jun '08

Mark, I haven't done it myself, but my friend, Abbey Gura has a 23 year old virtually perfect M15 that he routinely picks up from the trailer to the water by the chain plates. According to him, they are more than strong enough and being located amidships the boat is balanced when lifting from those two points. Later this summer I plan to cruise with him from his yacht club on the south shore of Long Island, NY where he uses this method of launching. I guess I'll be doing the same thing so I can let you know then how it worked. I believe he told me that when he bought the boat new, Jerry used this method to put the boat on the trailer. Maybe Jerry will comment on this method. Anyway, Abbey is a prudent sailor and I'm sure he wouldn't risk damage to his boat if he wasn't absolutely sure of this method. Rick M15 #337 Bluebird > Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:31:58 -0700 (PDT) > From: Mark Delin <fernandelin(a)sbcglobal.net> > Subject: M_Boats: Hoist Launching an M-15 > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Message-ID: <939702.70410.qm(a)web82608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi Everyone, > > We have an M-15 and want to move it to a place that has a hoist launch > with a hook, but no sling. Does anyone have experience in hoist launching > a Montgomery that they would be willing to share? > > Thanks! > > Mark

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caulk for centerboard pins
by Chris and Jeff Packer 15 Jun '08

15 Jun '08

Question: What exactly is the black non hardening caulk that I dug out of both side of the centerboard pivot pin hole on my 1982 M-23? I seem to remember a post (possibly by Jerry) that mentioned filling the remainder of the stop and pivot pin holes with a non hardening caulk. This stuff was fairly easy to remove and held up extremely well since I suspect the board hasn't been removed since 1982. I'd like to use it again, or something similar. I thought I remembered a post about this but have not been able to find it. Jeff

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Re: M_Boats: Hoist Launching an M-15
by Paint4Real＠aol.com 15 Jun '08

15 Jun '08

Because I'm immersed in a project that involves hoisting the 15 over, not water but concrete, I'm wondering what the reference to "chain plates" means. I know chain plates to be long, steel, through bolted attachments to the hull, supporting the hard rigging (shroud plates). I'm not familiar with such things on a 15. I would have been very grateful to know that I could lift a 15 by the bow and stern cleats and the standing rigging plates. If this is true, I can still profit from the advice, so please let us know, if you know from experience. I'm doing extensive gelcoat repairs and will be applying a barrier coat soon, and I'd love to have the hull "open" for that. Grateful thanks for any input. ************** Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

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Re: M_Boats: Hoist Launching an M-15
by Paint4Real＠aol.com 15 Jun '08

15 Jun '08

In a message dated 6/14/08 6:51:41 PM, openboatt(a)gmail.com writes: > I'm waiting for Jerry to talk about using the chain plates to lift the > M15..... t > > Me, too. I'm in the middle of a hellish gelcoat blister project (more about which, with photos, soon), but lifting her off by deck hardware scared me, so I went with a sling invention. So far, so good. ************** Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

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First San Diego M17 Sail
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 15 Jun '08

15 Jun '08

Great job Joe. She looks awesome. I love the name set into the covestripe. We'll be heading over to the coast day after tomorrow with Dauntless in tow. Launching at Alamitos and got a slip for the nights of the 16th and 17th before we head out with the Socal Potter group on the morning of the 18th for Catalina. There will be at least 2 other Montys there as well. Not sure about the other Montys, but a number of the group have reserved slips for the evening of the 17th at Alamitos Bay Marina. Come on down and see us. You'll find Dauntless either at the courtesy dock at the Davies launch ramp or in slip 28B right down the street from the ramp. Love to meet ya. Sean M23 Dauntless **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

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Re: M_Boats: First San Diego M17 Sail
by TOMMYVAL＠aol.com 14 Jun '08

14 Jun '08

In a message dated 6/14/2008 1:52:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jbsails(a)gmail.com writes: http://s271.photobucket.com/albums/jj130/sailingsd/Montgomery%2017%20First%2 0Sail/ JB Beautiful job, great pics but the best part are those wide grins you and Pam are wearing. That says it all Gary Valetti M17 Bellerin **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

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Gear Hammocks
by Phil & Frances 14 Jun '08

14 Jun '08

Have any of you hung gear hammocks in the cabin of a M 15? Where did you hang them? What I mean is that I purchased the commercial hooks Defender sells for hammocks. Since there is no wood in the cabin, the only alternative I can see is to drill holes and through bolt them under the decks port and starboard. If you have some ideas, I am open to all possibilities. Phil

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Lake Sailing in CA
by Carlos 14 Jun '08

14 Jun '08

Hello All- I would like to try some lake sailing in Central CA. Any of you guys been to Lake Isabella or Cachuma Lake and can provide info. on sailing, camping, swimming, marinas, ramps, etc.? Can't find size of these lakes other than measured in acres, and was hoping to know miles wide and long. Any other suggestions on lakes with 4-6 hours of So. Cal.? I usually sail San Diego and my local lake, but am hoping for something a little different. Thanks, Carlos

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