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Re: M_Boats: m15 named SCRED
by Larry E Yake 20 May '08

20 May '08

Sheesh! After reading all the boating messages this evening, I understand why my ears have been burning! ;-) Larry On Mon, 19 May 2008 22:38:25 EDT Nebwest2(a)aol.com writes: > Dave, > > I thoroughly enjoyed your website, as well. It will become one of my > regular > "what's new in Montyland?" checks! > > Thanks for putting it out there for us all to share. Can't wait to > sail with > you again at: > > LARRY E YAKES FANTASTIC MONTGOMERY SAILBOAT OWNERS SAN JUAN > RENDEZVOUS, > MESSABOUT, RAID, GATHERING, AND GENERAL GOOD TIME FOR ALL!!!!! > > :-) > > No pressure Larry!!! hahaha > > > Sean > > > > > > **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on > family > favorites at AOL Food. > (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > >

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charts online
by htmills＠zoominternet.net 20 May '08

20 May '08

Someone on the TSBB posted this link of the NOAA charts on a Google map type interface. WAY COOL!!!! HYPERLINK "http://demo.geogarage.com/noaa/" \nhttp://demo.geogarage.com/noaa/ Tod Mills M17 #408, 1987 galley model BuscaBrisas No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.20/1453 - Release Date: 5/18/2008 9:31 AM

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m15 named SCRED
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 20 May '08

20 May '08

Dave, I thoroughly enjoyed your website, as well. It will become one of my regular "what's new in Montyland?" checks! Thanks for putting it out there for us all to share. Can't wait to sail with you again at: LARRY E YAKES FANTASTIC MONTGOMERY SAILBOAT OWNERS SAN JUAN RENDEZVOUS, MESSABOUT, RAID, GATHERING, AND GENERAL GOOD TIME FOR ALL!!!!! :-) No pressure Larry!!! hahaha Sean **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)

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m15 speed
by ORLANDO VELEZ 20 May '08

20 May '08

Yesterday I saw in my fish finder speeds of 7 mph 8 and 12 mph I could not believe it but the sudden acceleration and the breaking over the front wave was obvious. Have anyone seen this? Maybe turbulence over paddlewheel? It was really windy (white caps) broad reaching with full main and genoa.

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remove from list
by Chuck Koucky 20 May '08

20 May '08

please remove me from the list, going sailing for three months

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Re: M_Boats: RE : Info request on seaworthiness
by Rmceagrella＠aol.com 19 May '08

19 May '08

Honestly speaking Michael, I take all of my boats to the San Juan islands to sail and I can still say that the 17 was superior to the 23 ad 22 foot boats I had then. That had a good deal to do with my choice of restoring the M23 I have now. I have been in contrary tide and wind conditions and understand exactly what your concern is. The cockpit 17's arrangement felt like a boat much bigger and more importantly the construction quality is there. The Catalina 22 I had developed stress fractures from 5ft seas I had crossing Rosario Strait, this would never have happened in the 17. The Compac 23 I had was pretty solid but couldn't sail to windward to save her life....or her Captain's. My 17 was a sweet sail sailing boat, probably better than the 23 I have now... I am not from a racing background but it is informative that I work to keep up with them in light and moderate breezes....right Larry, Eldor and Gary??? None of this is to say that the M17 is going to have the seakeeping or seakindly characteristics of a Bristol Channel Cutter, it is only a 17 foot boat and nothing is going to change that! It will be more lively in a dynamic sea. But if you are concerned that it should be discounted because no one else is buying boats this small. Consider the importance of quality of design and of construction. When the chips are down you will be glad you did. Oh, I also would ask how many of the 10,000lb+ boats have been more than 30 miles from their moorage. Take care. Rick M23 Raven **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)

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Re: M_Boats: storage idea
by JDavies104＠aol.com 19 May '08

19 May '08

I am as far as coiling the rode into a bucket, but never thought of the bag. Great idea, and will take up much less space. Rick M-17 Lynne L #633 ************** Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)

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Re: M_Boats: RE : Info request on seaworthiness
by Rmceagrella＠aol.com 19 May '08

19 May '08

Honestly speaking, I used to take my M17 to the San Juan islandsfairly often and **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)

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Re: M_Boats: Info request on seaworthiness
by Rmceagrella＠aol.com 18 May '08

18 May '08

I have had both a M15 and M17 as well as a Catalina 22, a Compac 23, a Norse built 18 and now a M23. Rough weather sailing was a thing I used to enjoy a great deal. In my opinion the M15 was a very good performer when challenged by conditions. However, if price or storage space are not limiting factors I would strongly suggest the M17 as it behaves like a much bigger boat. The position of the crew is much less a factor, the boat "takes care of itself" much easier if you find you must leave the tiller for briefly to deal with the unexpected and if you actually want to "go below" the M17 is vastly more user friendly. If you are trying to sleep at anchor the 15 is OK if the conditions are calm but quickly becomes very"corky" and headroom is nonexistant. I am not being disrespectful of the 15, it is a very solid boat. Seaworthy, well designed. perhaps the best 15 foot boat in the world. Certainly capable of the conditions likely to be encountered be you. But again the 17 is more seakindly, a no compromise boat regardless of size. They have been sailed to Hawaii, up and down the east coast, ect. A couple could go out for a week with the space available. In my opinion they represent the choice between the seagoing equivalent of backpack camping with the best equipment or camping in style with the best equipment available. Oh and I don't know about your situation but it was much easier to get my wife aboard the 17 in questionable weather than the 15 :) Good Luck Rick Agrella M23 #017 Raven **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)

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I love the M17
by Richard Everett 18 May '08

18 May '08

On thursday my wife and I took out a 2003 38 foot Dufour and sailed between Shilshole and Edmunds. Boat was not much fun to handle...everything had to be cranked hard, and she seemed quite sluggish in the ~10 to 15 knot winds. Maybe we got her to 7 knots a couple of times, but that was about it. On saturday, we took our M17 to Port of Everett and sailed all the way down around Whidbey Island to Useless Bay and back. Sailing the M17 was MUCH more fun, and in the light to moderate winds (10 to 20 knots) we flew! At one point we were doing 6.8 knots on a close reach, about 20 degree heel...in the little M17! Since we were heading south down the channel (past the Clinton-Mukilteo ferry route) and the tide was coming in, I don't think the current would have been helping us much. At any rate, we did over 15 miles in under 4 hours including a lot of zigzag tacks down the channel ( wind was coming from the south) and didn't touch the motor once. On the way back the winds did some strange things. We would get a strong 1 to 5 minute gust of ice cold winds, then dead calm, then a strong gust of warm wind from another direction. We ended up having to motor back quite a bit to make Port of Everett before dark. Didn't see any Montys Saturday, so if you were there, sorry we missed you. Rick M17 Eidolon

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