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Re: M_Boats: Advice for stained jib
by Wcpritchett＠aol.com 12 Mar '08

12 Mar '08

The method seems be little known of except by those in the trade...but in reality it has been going on in the sailing industry for 30+ yrs that I know of. It may be true that commercial cleaners don't do repairs or apply finish (I never checked or asked if they can do finish) but they are experts in chemical cleaning and fabric care. I personally think worrying about a commercial dry cleaner ruining sails is a moot point. They deal with fabrics, construction and finishes way more delicate than sailcloth. Anyway, I learned this by asking a long time yacht broker friend of mine down in Ft Lauderdale. At the time we were partnering in spec buying and selling sailboats. He told me the local sail lofts and yacht brokers sent sails there for cleaning. If anyone is concerned about finish they may want to ask their sail cleaning company how they apply it. High pressure is the best way and low pressure the worst and shortest life. Several yrs ago I asked a well known "sail cleaning" company in Ft Lauderdale how they did it. They suspended the sail horizontally, sprayed the finish on and used fans to expedite fast drying...in sales hype their drying is called "curing". bp **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

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Re: M_Boats: Advice for stained jib
by Wcpritchett＠aol.com 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

I had a commercial dry cleaning company do 5 sails for a 26' sloop...they looked terrible and had rust stains. The dc co removed all the stains and the sails came out looking bright and new. I can't remember the name of the company but they are the guys who drive trucks with the white bags carried on the roof. They do drapery and other large pieces for hotels, etc. Charge was by the lb and cheap compared to the "sail cleaning company" I contacted in Ft Laud. bp **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

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M15 Asymmetrical spinnaker
by Rob Hicks 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

Hi all, I am thinking about putting an asymmetrical spinnaker on my M15 for sailing off of the wind. Has anyone done this? If so, how well does it work? Thanks all, Rob Hicks

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sailing with gennaker and spinnaker
by Richard Cottrell 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

I've been sailing with gennaker and spinnaker for many and I wouldn't be without them. It makes sailing so much more fun! My gennaker and spinnaker are each 144 sq. ft.. I fly the gennaker from a block approx two feet from the top of mast when not using the main. If you go to lakedonpedrosailingclub.org and click on photos then scroll down to 2007-08-06 Mocassin cruise, then scroll through pictures, you'll see Really sailing with spinnaker and Gennaker. In one of the photos I'm sailing at 5.5 knots in 8 knot winds with gennaker alone. Rich Cottrell M15 "Really"

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Garelick EEZ-In ladder on eBay
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

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Re: M_Boats: Good Dinghy for an M15 or M17
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

What about a M 6-8? if you have to tow a dinghy??? GO M-17 #316a **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

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Good Dinghy for an M15 or M17
by Rick Langer 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

Good to hear from you Tod, I think the stock skeg was designed for carrying more weight than a single rower. With two people aboard the skeg seems to be just about right. One feature worth mentioning is the full length, bow to stern thwart which allows the crew to sit in just the right place to properly trim the boat. It does require a second set of oarlock sockets. Like the Montgomery boats it's a pretty boat, which to me is important. Although she tows well, towing anything short of an inflatable kayak seems to be more than an M15 can handle. I think Connie's Nymph would be perfect for your boat. It's just what you need to transport Rudy ashore and it won't slow you down much. If Doug Kelch can tow that Bolger Light Dory (2 or 3 feet longer than his boat ) with an M15, you can tow a Nymph. I saw Connie's boat and I can tell you he built a fine one. Rick M15 #337 Bluebird > Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 21:10:58 -0500 > From: <htmills(a)zoominternet.net> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Good Dinghy for an M15 or M17 > To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <003701c87ff8$7c133670$7439a350$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" > > Here is a picture of Rick Langer towing his Nymph in Maine. It seemed to > tow pretty nicely although, as you mentioned, it did look like it could > have > benefitted from a larger skeg. When towing, it floats so high in the > water > that the regular skeg is hardly in the water. > > http://www.htmills.com/images/LF-bluebirdandnymph.jpg > > I thought it was a real nice dinghy. It sure is tempting to get Connie's > but I'm not currently in a position to buy any boats at the moment. (Other > things going on.) Sounds like someone will end up with a great little > boat, > though. > > Tod

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Sail Cleaning
by Dittmann 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

I bought a Pearson Ensign once and the engine had been sitting on top of the sails all winter. The engine gas and oil mix had soaked through the main and jib to create a tie died effect about 3 feet round. I went to Boat US and purchased a product I think was simply called "Sail Cleaner" (sorry I don't remember the manufacture). It was a small container of a powder that was similar to Oxy clean that you would mix with water. My next door neighbor, and my wife watched as I wet the sails and applied the cleaner then we all stood back thinking this was completely futile. Per the directions you had to let it sit for a few minuets. We all stood there in shock as the stains completely disappeared not to mention that the seams and the rest of the sail went back to a nice clean white. I had that boat and sails for four years (before I found my way to an M-17) and the sails held up great and never showed any signs of damage from the cleaning. I passed the rest of the cleaner to a friend to try and get rubber scuffing off of his sail but it would not get them out though the rest of the sail looked great. My friend did not return the cleaner and that's why I can't remember the name, sorry. Try checking with Boat US, I went to there web site but didn't see it there. Good luck, Briant

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M17 mast
by Tom Smith 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

Trying to definatively i.d. the M17 mast. Closest I seem to get is Dwyer DM-6, which is a 3X4 tube. Any opinions on this? t

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Re: M_Boats: asymmetrical spinnaker on my M15
by John R. Butler 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

I had one on my first M15 and absolutely loved it, used it a LOT. Don't know if it survived subsequent owners or not. M15 #264 -- are you out there? .--.-. | ( ( )__ \ _ / (_, \ ) ,_) | -== (_) ==- -'--`--' /|\ / \ / | \ | ^^ / | \ / | \ ^^ /361| \ / | \ / | \ ^^ / | \ ___/____| \ ______|_ \ ___ _______/ ==== \___\___/ | “MONTGOMERY 15” / ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~^~~^=~^~~-=~^~^~=~^~=~~^~= ~^~=~~^=~^~~^~^=~^~-~^~~^~= ^~=~^~=~~^~~=~~=~^~=~~^~~^~^^ John Butler - First M15 was #264

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