March 2008 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Re: M_Boats: M-15 sails
by Wcpritchett＠aol.com 18 Mar '08

18 Mar '08

Is Schock Sailmakers still in business? They made Monty sails back in the 1970s. **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

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Re: M_Boats: Running rigging diameter
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 18 Mar '08

18 Mar '08

Now I have to reply, all my halyards are 3/16" or 4 mm. The light genoa sheets are also 3/16 and not very friendly but they are hydrophobic and very light. Reef line - 3/16 Main Haly - 3/16 Headsail halys(2) - 3/16 Mainsheet tails are also 3/16 at the split. The working loads for this cordage is generally greater than the total weight of a M-17. No problems to date. M-17 #316a LB/GF! GO **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

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M15 Stern Pulpit
by Richard Cottrell 18 Mar '08

18 Mar '08

Really's stern pulpit is identical to the one Bert Felton had on Kokopelli. You can see it on MSOG M15 owners photo site. Rich Cottrell Really M15

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Re: M_Boats: Running rigging diameter
by Wcpritchett＠aol.com 18 Mar '08

18 Mar '08

1/4" is fine for sheets and halyards. It's just big enough to be comfortable on the hands and light enough to keep sheet weight from hampering sail performance in light winds. With larger lines comes larger blocks, sheaves, weight, etc. bp **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

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Running rigging diameter
by Rodney Holland 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

Whew!!! Made it the 500 miles from Mobile, AL back to our home in Sugar Land, TX a few minutes ago. I was concerned about a trailer of this age, but I had new tires, wheel bearings, racers, rollers, lights, and u bolts put on, so the only things I was really concerned about were the springs and in the deep corners of my mind, the old rims I had the tire store reuse. Now if I just didn't jinx myself, since I'll trek the last 100 miles up to Lake Livingston with it tomorrow. Questions for you fine folks. I'm going to replace the running rigging, and my measurments tell me 1/4"? That seems awfully small even for a 17 foot boat, but honestly, I haven't been on a 17 ft boat in a long time. I wonder if it was maybe 3/8" and is just worn and compacted. It really should be replaced, so some guidance on the size for the jib and main halyards would be appreciated. Rodney Holland rodh(a)earthlink.net EarthLink Revolves Around You.

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Re: M_Boats: Installing a Stern Pulpit
by Steve R. 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

Lou, I think the small ports will work. But let me tell you what I did. If you are going to put a hole in your boat, I suggest that it be the most useful possible hole. I installed Bomar hatches on both sides of my cockpit. The hatches are located on the top (horizontal) surface of the seat, spaced roughly between the locker hatch and the transom. I gained access to install a swim ladder, a motor mount and to tighten the bolts that support the rudder. My boat is an older model with the two shallow lockers, so these hatches gave me access to an amazing amount of storage for fenders and dock lines. The P boats do not have cockpit lockers, but the manufacturer offers cockpit seat hatches as a factory option. With a socket wrench and extension of the proper length, I am confident that I could install the nuts for a stern pulpit. Maybe I would need some putty or tape to hold the nut in the socket until I got the nut started, and maybe I would lose a fastener or two, but I have no doubts that I could do it. steve Steve R. M-15 #119 Lexington, KY ************************************************************** I thought of installing a stern pulpit on my m-15 and I thought it might be possible by drilling access holes to reach the nuts. I think it would take four access ports that could be caped with those little deck plates that screw on flush. Does anyone think this would work or why not? Lou

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Re: M_Boats: Installing stern pulpit
by GILASAILR＠aol.com 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

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stern pulpit installed
by Flickasf＠aol.com 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

I had a stern pulpit installed on my previously owned M 15. I had it fabricated and installed. I like its design better than the one Bob sells. If you would like, I can post photos. I am going to have one made for my current M 15 which will be a duplicate of my old one. You can bolt part of it and use screws for the rest. There are also fitting made that look like winged molly bolts, but are made of stainless. You might get buy with screwing it down because the only forces are sheer. Bert Felton M15, #363 Zephyr ************** It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

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Installing stern pulpit
by Bill Lamica 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

Possible way to install a stern pulpit: Blind Rivet Nut or Nutsert are available in steel, aluminum and stainless steel. And they are available closed off at the bottom of the hole, or open. I have never used them in a watercraft, but I have used them to install hard rubber fender flares on a Jeep fiberglass body. The ones used were from a professional kit sold to shops through a wholesale outfit. So, I do not have a current source. They are sort of like a pop rivet. Drill the hole in the fiberglass, coat the hole with sealer, slip in the nutsert, put the special tool into the insert and squeeze until it seats. The ones we used were for fiberglass from 1/4 to 1/2 inch thick, which may be the reason they would not work. I cannot say how thick the material is where the rail would mount. Also to note, the ones we used for fiberglass had a ridge on each side of the shank to keep it from twisting. Had to tap them in with a plastic mallet. My use with them was several years ago when they were not yet a mainstream item. I Googled Nutsert and came up with lots of places to research. I'll leave that part to the persons with the need... I think I'd start at a local 4X4 specialists. The people who sell the fender flares. Bill Photo Site

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Installing a Stern Rail...
by Louis Aliotta 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

I have been thinking about installing a stern rail myself. I was thinking that It might be possible to cut access holes about big enough for your hand just below where the rail attaches to the transom. The holes could be cut in the cockpit liner at that point and later sealed with screw type deck plates, maybe a 2" diamater. Does that sound feasible?

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