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Re: M_Boats: M-15 for sale
by TOMMYVAL＠aol.com 25 Aug '06

25 Aug '06

Not for sale, actually have been sailing a bit more this year and really enjoying it. Greg Hann and I have been out and have had some great sails. the old back can handle about 4 hours max so we limit it a bit but it has been great being back on the water Doug if the Pax thing happens in Sept let me know I can make that, have a good trip to and say hi to all the guys Gary Also does anyone know if Craig Honschell (sp) is still sailing his 17 ?

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Stale Gas
by Becker Robert 25 Aug '06

25 Aug '06

FWIW, Cecil Adams has a piece about gas going stale at http:// www.straightdope.com/columns/060825.html. Bob and Judy Becker bobjudy2(a)comcast.net

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Re: M_Boats: sleeping aboard
by Jerry 25 Aug '06

25 Aug '06

Thanks again for your help. Jerry --- Jerry <wd4mph(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Howard, thanks for the detailed reply; your answers > were really informative for me. > I explored around the photos section some more and > realized that the 17 comes with a forward hatch, but > the 15 does not. Perhaps some kind of front vent > could > be installed. But apparently a lot of people find > the > ventilation in a 15 adequate. I especially enjoyed > reading about Doug Kelch's travels in a 15. He has > trailered and sailed a 15 from Maine to Key West, > overnighting an average of 25 nights a year. (The > Florida keys would be my dream trip, which appears > quite doable in a 15.) I also saw several photos of > boom tent type arrangements for rain, which seemed > to > work well. Your comments about riding out the rain > in > your boat as well as a tent were encouraging. Thanks > also, for the comments about anchoring stern to the > wind in light air. I'll have to remember that there > is > more breeze on the water than in a campground > surrounded by tall trees. > > Your netting arrangement seems to be a great idea > for > sleeping bug free. > > I live in Birmingham Alabama and kayak camp near > Pensacola, so I have not really observed what other > sailers do about the frequent summer lightning > storms. > I'll be more observant next time I am down there. In > my kayak, I get off the water onto a barrier island > or > other shore. Even so, I have had to crouch low for > awhile beside the kayak in a couple of bad lightning > storms, with strikes very close by. The flash and > the > boom occured simultaneously. Pretty scarry > experience > for me. I would feel more secure lowering the mast > in > those conditions, which could probably be done > easier > on a 15 than a 17. > > I have had an offer to sail on a 15 in Mobile (4.5 > hr > drive), and in October on a 17 which will be at > Smith > Lake, about an hour from my house. This is obviously > a > great group, and I cannot wait to take advantage of > these generous offers. > > Thanks again for your comments, which have helped > confirm that a small sailboat like the 15 or 17 > would > be better for my purposes in the long run than a > small > cubby cabin powerboat which I also considered, > because > of the speed in avoiding storms and the lack of a > mast > in the air. > > If anyone else has any experience avoiding > lightning, > I would really appreciate your comments. > > Jerry Renno > > > --- Howard Audsley <haudsley(a)tranquility.net> wrote: > > > Seeing no other response, I'll take a swipe at > this. > > > > > > On Aug 23, 2006, at 12:22 PM, Jerry wrote: > > > > > I am still new to the group and do not yet have > a > > > boat, but I do have some questions for those who > > sleep > > > aboard for a few nights in southern waters > during > > the > > > summer. (Alabama, Florida, etc.) > > > > > > 1. How do you keep from roasting at night? > > > > I cool off after hot day (is 90 to 100 with high > > humidity hot?) by > > either taking a swim or using a small garden > sprayer > > to take a shower > > in the cockpit. Once cooled down, I don't usually > > get hot, but I prefer > > hot to cold, so that doesn't bother me much. If > > there is a breeze, you > > can anchor bow to wind and pop the hatch open to > get > > considerable > > ventilation going. Or in light air, anchor stern > to > > wind to get even > > more. Cook outside in cockpit to keep heat out of > > the cabin. > > > > > > 2. How do you keep out mosquitos? (without > > roasting) > > > > I built a light netting that fits the companionway > > and seals it up. You > > can also get or make the kind of netting that > > resembles a bag with lead > > weights on the perimeter to go over the forward > > opening hatch. Not that > > much different from hiding out on the beach inside > a > > tent. Same > > ventilation techniques apply. > > > > > > 3. With lightning storms just about every > > afternoon or > > > evening, (Pensacola area) how do you stay safe > > with a > > > metal mast up in the air? Do you ever take it > > down > > > while on the water during storms? Or do you > beach > > on a > > > barrier island and get off the water? > > > > Don't see much lightning. What do other boats in > > that area do? A M15 > > could probably be rigged to drop her mast > relatively > > easy and quickly. > > > > > > 4. Is staying on board still realistic in a > > day-long > > > rain? > > > > As opposed to inside a tent? Most of us who > > overnight much have rigged > > various forms of awnings, boom tents, etc. so that > > the hatch can be > > left open during rain events. Some can even sit in > > the cockpit and stay > > relatively dry. Tod Mills has a full enclosure for > > his. I've camped > > (both heavy tent camping and light backpacking) > and > > I can stay as dry > > and ride out rain as well in the boat as I can > > camped. You won't be > > standing up inside the boat, of course, but unless > > you are really > > packing heavy (full wall tent with enclosed > > awnings), you don't stand > > up inside a tent either. > > > > > > I am used to camping in a campground near > > Pensacola, > > > where a good tent, and perhaps a fan in the tent > > at > > > night solves most of the above issues. I am > still > > > considering a Montgomery 15, but want to be sure > > it > > > won't turn out to be miserable instead of > > wonderful > > > spending a few nights on board. > > > > Best solution is to ask to take a ride on one to > > check it out for > > yourself. You may have to travel a bit, but if you > > are going to make > > the investment in a boat, it might be worth the > > effort. > > > > Keep in mind these are small boats. Capable of a > > lot, but in comparison > > to most boats, small. But if you realize this and > > pack accordingly, and > > carefully stow things so you don't have to move > them > > around a lot, you > > quickly adapt to the size and all is well. A lot > of > > guys routinely do > > one and two week trips on them....some even > longer, > > with no real > > problems. A one or two week trip from Pensacola to > > Mobile and back is > > entirely within the capability of this boat, but > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: M_Boats: M-15 for sale
by TOMMYVAL＠aol.com 25 Aug '06

25 Aug '06

Robbin I'm in Sterling and have a M-17, when you get a chance give me a call Gary Valetti 703-851-5037 cell

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New On the Photo Site
by Bill Lamica 25 Aug '06

25 Aug '06

Hi All, Added a couple of new items recently. Go to what's new to see: http://www.msogphotosite.com/WhasNew.html Bill www.MSOGPhotoSite.com

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Re: M_Boats: Re: SPLASH!
by chbenneck＠juno.com 25 Aug '06

25 Aug '06

Hi Sean, May "Dauntless" always have fair winds and a hand's breadth of water under her keel. Connie ex M15 LEPPO

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sleeping aboard
by Jerry 24 Aug '06

24 Aug '06

I am still new to the group and do not yet have a boat, but I do have some questions for those who sleep aboard for a few nights in southern waters during the summer. (Alabama, Florida, etc.) 1. How do you keep from roasting at night? 2. How do you keep out mosquitos? (without roasting) 3. With lightning storms just about every afternoon or evening, (Pensacola area) how do you stay safe with a metal mast up in the air? Do you ever take it down while on the water during storms? Or do you beach on a barrier island and get off the water? 4. Is staying on board still realistic in a day-long rain? I am used to camping in a campground near Pensacola, where a good tent, and perhaps a fan in the tent at night solves most of the above issues. I am still considering a Montgomery 15, but want to be sure it won't turn out to be miserable instead of wonderful spending a few nights on board. Thanks, Jerry Renno __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: SPLASH!
by kingneptune46＠netscape.com 24 Aug '06

24 Aug '06

Hey Sean, Will You be invoking the four corners of the winds to recognize "Dauntless" to keep her and all those who sail her decks safe. What a Great moment that will be, to finally splash her after all the Love you have given her. I'm sure she will reward you with many wonderfull days of sailing, and memories of sailing, in the years to come. CONGRATS!!! Sail On, Sail On, Sailor Mark Escovedo M17F/D #103 "AMY" --- Nebwest2(a)aol.com wrote: From: Nebwest2(a)aol.com To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Barlow winch upgrades Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:32:22 EDT Thanks Rick Your trip had to be great! I'll email you off list. Sean _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats _____________________________________________________________ Netscape. Just the Net You Need.

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Barlow winch upgrades
by Nebwest2＠aol.com 23 Aug '06

23 Aug '06

Thanks Rick Your trip had to be great! I'll email you off list. Sean

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Re: M_Boats: Barlow winch upgrades
by Rmceagrella＠aol.com 23 Aug '06

23 Aug '06

Hey Sean, Hope Dauntless loaded without incident! Just back from Cypress, and Sucia islands a couple of hours ago. All went well, did a lot of motoring, but who cares! Hope the Channel Islands are a blast for both you and Mary Jo! Be thinking of you. Make sure to get a picture of the launching. It is a fine moment to finally step aboard after so much work. Gotta go I'm beat after the long drive. Blue sky, fair winds and my the sea gods bless Dauntless. Rick

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