June 2005 - montgomery_boats - mailman.xmission.com

Re: M_Boats: Winch line..
by chbenneck＠juno.com 04 Jun '05

04 Jun '05

Hi Bobbie, Replace the polypropylene line with a flat Dacron winch tow strap. It's stronger; spools up evenly; and is a superior product. They should be available at almost any automobile parts store, since they are a standard item. For reference on trailer equipment and supplies get a "NORTHERN Tool & Equipment Co." Catalog. Call them at 1-800-533-5545 to get on their mailing list. NORTHERN also has nice ratchet tie down straps. I use a winch tow strap at the bow; one ratchet strap from trailer frame over the bow near the front of the cabin and back to the trailer frame. A second ratchet strap goes across the cockpit. That holds the hull very nicely on the trailer. Connie

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Winch line..
by Bobbie Mayer 04 Jun '05

04 Jun '05

I am determined to get this boat on the road... okay, next problem, the polypro winch line I had on the winch is pretty much shot. What should I replace it with? And does it matter if I do that before I tow the trailer? (I.e., does the winch line do anything to keep the boat on the trailer?) Bobbie

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Gone Sailing
by BILLAMICASR＠aol.com 03 Jun '05

03 Jun '05

Hi all, Some of you will recall I was poised to buy a new M-15, when Tipperary" my M-17 came up for sale. Since purchase, I've been unable with time, confidence or crew to launch her in the San Francisco Bay. On days that the wind would co-operate (5-15 knots) I had no time. On days where I had lots of time the wind was just to strong and intimidating (15 -25 knots) for a new boat sailor. Be that as it may, I've decided to get used to her OR get rid of her. So now, I'm on a quest. Beginning tomorrow, I'm off to go sailing. I'll be sticking to lakes in Northern California, Oregon and possibly Washington and gone until the middle of July. By then I'll either keep my M-17 or she'll be for sale or trade for a nice M-15. Bill M-17 "Tipperary"

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Sometimes, you just get lucky.
by htmills＠bright.net 03 Jun '05

03 Jun '05

I think I may well be set for life when it comes to cups for mixing resin or holding varnish: A while back a local laundromat did some spring cleaning and, being open to possibilities, I rummaged through the pile and picked out a couple of items I thought I could put to good use. One of them was an unopened case of one thousand paper cups, 18 oz size, neatly packed in boxes of 50. "Popcorn" is printed on the side of them. I used the first one tonight (second one coming up in a moment) to mix up some epoxy (using a popsicle stick from my box of 1000 sticks, no less). Slick as a whistle. Tod M17 #408 BuscaBrisas

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Penetrol
by Rick Langer 03 Jun '05

03 Jun '05

This is an old thread, but I wanted to follow up on the advice I was given. Yesterday I compounded my very oxidized blue hull. The results were ok but not great. Then I put on a coat of Penetrol. The results are spectacular. Except for the dings and scratches the blue hull looks new. I wasn't able to wipe it off after application because it dried too quickly. Next time I'll do smaller areas at a time. The finish I got is high gloss. Thanks, Rick Langer M15 #337 Hudson River > Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:00:05 -0500 > From: "Craig F. Honshell" <chonshell(a)ia4u.net> > Subject: M_Boats: hi, rick . . . > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <001801c50342$5fe5fcc0$5941b3cf@D89X0M51> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > I am by no means the expert on this, so I hope others will weigh in . . . But I'll > repeat what I know, and hopefully get it right . . . > > Rubbing compound is a mild abrasive suspended in a paste, a paste much like liquid > wax for a car, and is a safe way to take the oxidation out of gelcoat . . . It comes > in degrees of abrasiveness and is available at marine outlets . . . It can be applied > with an orbital polisher, but one should take care not to use too much pressure and > "burn" the gelcoat, which I believe will yellow when damaged by heat. > > Penetrol, and I'm not sure of the spelling, is a paint additive . . . I think for > enamel paint . . . I believe it's a solvent, but someone please correct me if I'm > wrong . . . I believe it is available as "Marine Penetrol", but I've used the stuff > available at any hardware store . . . It is applied, left very briefly, and wiped > off, leaving a rich shine in the gelcoat . . . It's most impressive use I've seen is > Larry Yake's yellow-hulled M17, Tullamore . . . > > Vertglass was one brand of miracle fiberglass restorer . . . I don't know if it's > available anymore . . . Poliglow is another brand, one, I believe, that received high > marks from Practical Sailor magazine. I'm not sure what the miracle restorers do, if > they're like rubbing compound and wax in one or what, but Poliglow would basically > used to preserve the gelcoat's finish, like wax . . . I think . . . Please correct me > if I'm wrong . . . I believe these miracle restorers tout that they can be used on > oxidized gelcoat, skip the rubbing compound, and produce good results, but we had > much better success with Vertglass after using rubbing compound first . . . > > These are three steps I'm considering, but there's more than one way to skin this > cat, and West Marine sells complete kits for gelcoat care . . . I think Star Bright > caries a variation of every gelcoat, metal and wood preservative/restorer conceivable > . . . > > All the products make magnificent claims . . . > > But I saw pics of Tod's Busca after the Poliglow, don't know what steps he used > before, and it was very impressive . . . > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rick Langer > To: montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 9:54 AM > Subject: i was thinkin' . . . too > > Craig, > > My blue hull is oxidized too and I'd like to bring it back. I have a 9" > compounder and a Cyclo random orbital polisher which I've used to polish a > vintage Airstream trailer. I'm guessing that polishing fiberglass is a lot > easier than aluminum, but I'm a bit confused i.e. rubbing compound, > Penetrol(?), Poliglow, Vertglass. > > I wonder if you could give us a brief tutorial on bringing back and keeping > the shine on our boats? > > BTW, my boat has repaired gouges, but the color match is so bad that I wish > they were left alone. I went through a similar thing when polishing my > Airstream. The experts advised me to leave the gouges and large scratches > alone and just polish them, kind of adds character. I think they were > right. > > Thanks, > Rick Langer > M15 #337 > > Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 23:29:50 -0500 > From: "Craig F. Honshell" <chonshell(a)ia4u.net> > Subject: M_Boats: i was thinkin' . . . > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <009401c50296$8349d0d0$3241b3cf@D89X0M51> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > . . . this spring that I'd like to buff out my hull's oxidation, then go > over it > completely with Penetrol, then finish it with Poliglow or comparable > miracle > restorative . . . I think we used "Vertglass", something like that, on the > Flicka one > year . . . Don't know if that stuff is still available . . . > > I have gouges in my shear stripe that aren't going to go away without > major > restoration, but perhaps I can draw the eye away from them with a really > shiny hull . > . . :-)

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Re: M_Boats: Does anyone sail with a bimini top?
by LUDLOWD2＠aol.com 02 Jun '05

02 Jun '05

Rick I have the factory bimimi top and I can send some photos if you like. Yes you can sail with it and I have during a sail with my wife and during a rainstorm. I keep the bimimi stored aft when trailering but flip it forward over the companionway hatch once the mast is up. In the forward position, it doesn't interfer with access to the cabin. To deploy it I have to uncleat the mainsheet and set the top up then re-cleat the mainsheet. The boom clears the bimini top but you do lose some tuning ability since it's hard to see the main with the top up. I have practiced doing a quick reef by dropping the bimini aft onto the tiller, doing the jiffy reef then swinging the top up again. The factory bimini top attaches to the combings just a few inches aft of the center combing cleats. There are four straps which attach to eyes at each end of the combings. At anchor, I raise the top then I stretch a small nylon tarp like a boom tent from the bimini forward o the mast to cover the hatch opening. Don M-15 Sweet Dream

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Re: M_Boats: Re: M Boats Towing
by chbenneck＠juno.com 02 Jun '05

02 Jun '05

Hi Bobbie If you don't get the wheel bearings repacked, you will keep wondering if it should have been done? Are the bearings going to last for the trip? ..... and will I get home safely? If you have the bearings repacked, you KNOW that they have been inspected and also have been repacked with fresh grease. Therefore that gnawing anxiety - are they OK? ...will they last for the trip? .....are they making noise? ....what could that be? .....and why didn't I get them repacked before the trip, all disappear. Now you know they are repacked and are in good shape. Do it! One less item to worrry about. Connie M15 #400

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Delta
by Rick Langer 02 Jun '05

02 Jun '05

Just one more post. You left coast guys were having a discussion about sailing the Delta a few days ago. Well MAIB has an article on the Delta in the May 15 issue. Rick Langer

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by Dan Hall 02 Jun '05

02 Jun '05

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Re: M_Boats: Re: Trading boats
by Harvey G Wilson 02 Jun '05

02 Jun '05

>> you can come up and go sailing with me once I get her fixed up.<< 'Twas a wild thought that I had before passing her on to you...but I had serious dobts that anyone lived close enough to consider it.<GG> I pass by Chatt. at least twice a year, on my way to and from Camp Perry, Ohio. I'll probably take you up on your offer this or next year...same with Todd on the north end<GG> Try E-bay for a used motor...I had good luck with the last Seagull...but, then...they're easy to fix and rugged as hell!! Do I detect that you're keeping Stargazer's name??? Harvey/ Ga

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