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RE: M_Boats: Teak and Hatch Boards
by Smith, Tom 30 Jun '04

30 Jun '04

Starboard requires no finish. It's basically plastic. Comes in white and, I believe, white. t Tom Smith and Jane Van Winkle M15--345 Chukar M17--064 Unnamed -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Yeargain [mailto:saltydog@ev1.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 7:31 AM To: Maria Jorge; For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Teak and Hatch Boards What kind of finish can you put on starboard? Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maria Jorge" <mcjorge(a)bellsouth.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 6:32 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Teak and Hatch Boards > Just to add to this hatchboard discussion, I made new hatchboards for my M17 > out of starboard and they look great. I also added a rectangular stainless > steel vent in the top board. No maintenance! I made them in three pieces > with the the bottom edge of the middle and top hatchboards angled down to > reflect incoming rain. If anyone is interested I can send some pics. > Maria > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Howard Audsley" <haudsley(a)tranquility.net> > To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 6:00 AM > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Teak and Hatch Boards > > > > One of the great things about the Montgomery's is the MSOG website. There > is > > a good article on M15 hatch boards by former M15 owner John Harris: > > > > http://www.msog.org/how-to/hatchboards.cfm > > > > > > All joking aside (Mostly from him), Doug does a great job with the site. > > > > Howard > > > > > > > > > > On 6/29/04 8:20 AM, "Rick Langer" <farreach(a)optonline.net> wrote: > > > > I do plan to rebuild the hatchboards. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats This message was scanned for viruses!!

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Re: M_Boats: Teak and Hatch Boards
by JazzYachts＠aol.com 30 Jun '04

30 Jun '04

In a message dated 6/30/04 7:25:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Tom.Smith(a)itron.com writes: > One small comment I would have on John's hatch board construction method > (the link Howard provides goes to the M website and a description of John's > approach) is it doesn't appear he's angled the miter cut pictured in step 1. > Although his cut would keep rain from running into the cabin, because it's not > angled, water can be trapped in the cut. A good finish would probably > suffice to protect the boards, but a small angle eliminates the possibility of a > problem. t I agree with Tom; a simple miter lets water run out. I just finished solid teak companionway slides for the Folkboat, and they have a simple miter where they meet, not the rabbet. My recollection is this: the M-15 companionway dropboards can be no thicker than 1/2" to slide in the grooves. A half-inch is a pretty narrow "land" where the dropboards meet. When I tried the traditional 45 degree miter between the dropboards, the inclined planes slid down one upon the other and gave the companionway an unpleasant shingled appearance. I backed up and did the finicky rabbets instead. The alignment was improved and it looked better. When I was aboard and it was raining I always had a boom tent up, so no drips. Otherwise my boat was stored under cover. PS: sorry about the bouncing address. After I left CLC in February, they didn't take down my old email address, so the MSOG messages must have been piling up there. A faithful fan, I continue to follow the Montgomeries from this address. Cheers, John

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Teak and Hatch Boards
by Rick Langer 30 Jun '04

30 Jun '04

Thanks Larry and Connie for the response to my post. Connie, I was thinking that you might say to go with the oak under the heading of "It's Just a Boat". I might even be able to darken and reden the oak with stain before I oil it. Also under that heading, a fast way to upgrade those delaminated hatch boards is to turn them around so the inside is now the outside. After removing the delaminated layer I flipped the boards, lightly sanded the good side, oiled and flipped the hardware. They look great, but are really only cosmetic for the angle between the boards now allows water to enter the boat. If I'm ever worried about the water coming in I can flip the ugly side out and I'm back to where I started. Of course this is only a temporary solution, for I do plan to rebuild the hatchboards. But if I don't dislike the flipped board enough, I could end up keeping them for a long time. Rick Langer M15 #337

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RE: M_Boats: Teak and Hatch Boards
by Smith, Tom 30 Jun '04

30 Jun '04

One small comment I would have on John's hatch board construction method (the link Howard provides goes to the M website and a description of John's approach) is it doesn't appear he's angled the miter cut pictured in step 1. Although his cut would keep rain from running into the cabin, because it's not angled, water can be trapped in the cut. A good finish would probably suffice to protect the boards, but a small angle eliminates the possibility of a problem. t Tom Smith and Jane Van Winkle M15--345 Chukar M17--064 Unnamed -----Original Message----- From: Howard Audsley [mailto:haudsley@tranquility.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 3:01 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Teak and Hatch Boards One of the great things about the Montgomery's is the MSOG website. There is a good article on M15 hatch boards by former M15 owner John Harris: http://www.msog.org/how-to/hatchboards.cfm

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Re: M_Boats: Teak and Hatch Boards
by ddaystrom＠comcast.net 30 Jun '04

30 Jun '04

Hi Maria, I'm interested i pics of your hatch boards. thanks - al williams

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Re: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 16, Issue 23
by Rick Langer 30 Jun '04

30 Jun '04

Doug, I thought there was enough room between the deck and cushion for a shelf, but not actually living with it I will defer to your experience. I like your simple solution. I don't really need two full length shelves, just space to store those readily accessible type items like you mentioned. I'll take some measurements and start hunting for some containers. What do you keep in the plastic box below the dishpan? Where do you keep your hatch boards? Do you find the space below the berth useful? What do you store there? Thanks, Rick > Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 15:29:19 -0700 (PDT) > From: Doug Kelch <doug_kelch(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: M_Boats: Port and Starboard Shelves > To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats > <montgomery_boats(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: <20040629222919.78501.qmail(a)web13525.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Rick, > > I spend many nights on my M15 every year and cannot > recommend any location for permanently mounted shelves > that would not interfere with sleeping or the constant > rearrangement of gear. > > I keep a dishpan on top of a plastic box in the space > just aft of the the V berth, starboard side. > > I also keep the long handled things like whisker > poles, paddles, brooms, fishing poles etc. here. The > long poles keep the dishpan from sliding laterally and > the plastic box is just low enough to keep the dishpan > from sliding forward. > > When you need something from the "junk drawer - GPS, > sunscreen, pens, knife etc you just reach under while > siting in the cockpit (sailing along) lift up the edge > of the dishpan and pull the pan on to the berth. > > Most of the time I can find what I need by feel and > don't have to actually slide the pan out. > > Living space is precious and permanent shelves don't > add enough value to encroach on the living space. > > For what it is worth. > > Thanks > > Doug Kelch > "Seas the Day" > M15 #310

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Re: M_Boats: List mail problem and HESS FEST
by TOMMYVAL＠aol.com 30 Jun '04

30 Jun '04

Tod, Yes the dates of 9/24 thru 9/26 are set for the Hess get together. If you need more info you can contact Kate at Rogue Wave Yachts. Phone is 410-571-2955 or email her at Kate(a)rougewaveyachtsales.com Hope to see you there Gary

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Re: M_Boats: Finishing Teak
by bownez＠juno.com 30 Jun '04

30 Jun '04

Connie, Words of wisdom from you, as always. Bones ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

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Re: M_Boats: Finishing Teak
by bownez＠juno.com 30 Jun '04

30 Jun '04

Hi Rick, I'm not a fan of Cetol either (too yellow). All my teak is gray. I wash it and oil it once a year when the M23 is on her trailer. I'd rather be sailing than varnishing. To each, their own. Bones ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

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RE: M_Boats: San Juan Island trip report
by bownez＠juno.com 30 Jun '04

30 Jun '04

Randy, Thank you so much for the picture archive. Wonderful shots! I can't wait to sail the San Juans. Bones ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

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